Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[TMLAM34]

To Toronto: Connor Murphy
To Chicago: Nick Robertson + Pontus Holmberg + 3rd Rounder

To Toronto: Carl Grundstrom
To Los Angeles: Ilya Samsonov


We’d gain about 550k towards the cap with these two moves.

 

[arso40]

To Toronto: Connor Murphy
To Chicago: Nick Robertson + Pontus Holmberg + 3rd Rounder

To Toronto: Carl Grundstrom
To Los Angeles: Ilya Samsonov


We’d gain about 550k towards the cap with these two moves.

That’s too much for Murphy we gotta stop paying those premiums for these players I know I’m part of the minority cause I didn’t like the muzzin deal felt we gave up too much and we weren’t close to winning at the time either

 

[TMLAM34]

That’s too much for Murphy we gotta stop paying those premiums for these players I know I’m part of the minority cause I didn’t like the muzzin deal felt we gave up too much and we weren’t close to winning at the time either

I don’t think it’s much of an overpayment. Not to mention it would solve a huge issue on our blueline who’s under contract beyond this year.

Rielly - Murphy
McCabe - Liljegren
Benoit - Timmins

Has a good mix of size, physicality, offence and defence.

 

[ACC1224]

He doesn't know how to play defence at all. Hes esentially a bigger Barrie.

You'd think for a guy who 'doesn't know how to play defense at all' the team would bleed goals whenever he's on the ice.
Something doesn't add up here, weird.

 

[ULF_55]

To Toronto: Connor Murphy
To Chicago: Nick Robertson + Pontus Holmberg + 3rd Rounder

To Toronto: Carl Grundstrom
To Los Angeles: Ilya Samsonov


We’d gain about 550k towards the cap with these two moves.

So, would Ohio born Murphy waive to move to Toronto?

I think maybe I'd consider Kampf, Timmins and Steeves
for
Connor Murphy and a 2nd.

 

[ULF_55]

You'd think for a guy who 'doesn't know how to play defense at all' the team would bleed goals whenever he's on the ice.
Something doesn't add up here, weird.

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He gets all his ice time with marner and Jarnkrok.

 

[Sypher04]

I personally prefer Lagesson over Timmins for the 3rd pair.

You'd think for a guy who 'doesn't know how to play defense at all' the team would bleed goals whenever he's on the ice.
Something doesn't add up here, weird.

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He is very heavily sheltered.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Pretty sure the Christmas trade freeze is happening soon but wouldn't be surprised if we see a trade in January IMO.

With the given space we have accrued. I know when the Blues talked, another team was involved in to play. It'll be interesting to see if we revisit or go elsewhere.

 

[Sypher04]

Pretty sure the Christmas trade freeze is happening soon but wouldn't be surprised if we see a trade in January IMO.

With the given space we have accrued. I know when the Blues talked, another team was involved in to play. It'll be interesting to see if we revisit or go elsewhere.

We haven’t actually accrued any space because we are in LTIR, quite heavily I might add. That said, space has freed up with Klingberg done for the year

 

[Leaf Rocket]

We haven’t actually accrued any space because we are in LTIR, quite heavily I might add. That said, space has freed up with Klingberg done for the year

You are correct, I have used the wrong word. The space we have gained from Klingberg's LTIR is being done for the year.

 

[Sypher04]

You are correct, I have used the wrong word. The space we have gained from Klingberg's LTIR is being done for the year.

Definitely safe to assume Tre will use that space when the time is right to bolster the D

 

[BlueForever75]

The time to upgrade D is now. Not at deadline when cost of doing business is higher. There is no reason why Zadorov isnt a Leaf. For what Calgary got for him, the Leafs definitely could have matched that deal. When you wait until deadline, a player like Zadorov will go for double the cost.

 

[Fogelhund]

The time to upgrade D is now. Not at deadline when cost of doing business is higher. There is no reason why Zadorov isnt a Leaf. For what Calgary got for him, the Leafs definitely could have matched that deal. When you wait until deadline, a player like Zadorov will go for double the cost.

Our need isn't really a third pairing D though... we should be aiming higher.

 

[Sypher04]

The time to upgrade D is now. Not at deadline when cost of doing business is higher. There is no reason why Zadorov isnt a Leaf. For what Calgary got for him, the Leafs definitely could have matched that deal. When you wait until deadline, a player like Zadorov will go for double the cost.

The cost for us would have been notably higher given our requirement for retention and that Calgary didn’t want to keep any of the deal. They cared more about dealing him with no retention than getting more value or even not trading him within their division.

We were never really in it.

 

[ACC1224]

I personally prefer Lagesson over Timmins for the 3rd pair.



He is very heavily sheltered.

Which seems to be effective.

 

[Sypher04]

Which seems to be effective.

I’m just of the opinion he doesn’t add enough to be worth needing to shelter so much. I’d rather have players that can be trusted in more situations. That said, I know it’s a double edged sword, as I have certainly been one of the people talking for well over a year at this point that our lack of offense from the backend is a big problem.

 

[ACC1224]

I’m just of the opinion he doesn’t add enough to be worth needing to shelter so much. I’d rather have players that can be trusted in more situations. That said, I know it’s a double edged sword, as I have certainly been one of the people talking for well over a year at this point that our lack of offense from the backend is a big problem.

Sure, in an ideal world you can have all players capable of playing in all situations. I think his positives, especially on this team, outweigh his negatives.

 

[Sypher04]

Sure, in an ideal world you can have all players capable of playing in all situations. I think his positives, especially on this team, outweigh his negatives.

I like having him as depth, but just not convinced on him ever being a regular. Especially once we inevitably acquire a top 4 D

 

[TMLAM34]

So, would Ohio born Murphy waive to move to Toronto?

I think maybe I'd consider Kampf, Timmins and Steeves
for
Connor Murphy and a 2nd.

Don't see why he wouldn’t waive. Plays on a contender, probably paired with Rielly and he’s got McCabe who he is familiar already with. There’s definitely pros and cons, but I think the pros outweigh the cons here.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Have we traded for Ristolainen yet?

 

[ULF_55]

Don't see why he wouldn’t waive. Plays on a contender, probably paired with Rielly and he’s got McCabe who he is familiar already with. There’s definitely pros and cons, but I think the pros outweigh the cons here.

Perhaps, but it would be interesting to know his personal connection with Dublin and if family is still a consideration for him.

Obviously, he doesn't drive home to meet family after games or off days, but maybe he sees a brighter future in Chicago, doesn't have to uproot himself/family, and doesn't have cross-boarder flight to get ?home? in Dublin?

Personally, I haven't been "home" in over 25 years so that wouldn't bother me at all, but I know some people who fly across the continent home multiple times a year to visit family. They'd likely go more frequently if it was just a 1 hour flight a province away.

 

[Stephen]

So, would Ohio born Murphy waive to move to Toronto?

I think maybe I'd consider Kampf, Timmins and Steeves
for
Connor Murphy and a 2nd.

Murrphy did go the OHL route and play for Sarnia in juniors, so you'd figure he'd at least be open minded about little old Toronto.

He can talk to his old teammate Jake McCabe from Eau Claire Wisconsin and see how he likes it.

 

[ULF_55]

Which seems to be effective.

At 1.1mm for the next 2 years and then RFA status, yeah.

Someone has to be on the third pairing, and you do expect a coach to, you know, coach.

Timmins can be a keeper, or used to improve top 4, pushing a better player down.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Essentially we need a solid pairing for Rielly like Hainsey or Schenn and another RHD. It’s gonna be tough but hopefully something can come to fruition.

At 1.1mm for the next 2 years and then RFA status, yeah.

Someone has to be on the third pairing, and you do expect a coach to, you know, coach.

Timmins can be a keeper, or used to improve top 4, pushing a better player down.

I think timmins is great to keep for that price point but I also think he’s a good bartering chip as well.

 

[ULF_55]

Murrphy did go the OHL route and play for Sarnia in juniors, so you'd figure he'd at least be open minded about little old Toronto.

He can talk to his old teammate Jake McCabe from Eau Claire Wisconsin and see how he likes it.

Yep, or he might really be happy in Chicago and not have good memories of playing in the OHL. Of course he wouldn't be doing 10 hour bus rides ...