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This is just a bump in the road for them, been a great run.
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This is just a bump in the road for them, been a great run.
Magic Man
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Shave a mil off Brandon Tanev's cap hit and it looks easier to digest. That would probably make the deal too expensive to be worth it with all the Leafs young forwards and cheaper ways to fill a 4th line hole.
To keep harping on Tanev and Risto added. They have already tried to add a Tanev/Zadorov package this season, along with Schenn/Gudas this summer. I think they want that tough defenseman. If they both came in. Tanev and Brodie would be the #2/3 guys. 20-22 minutes a night. Ristolainen would be your #4 and McCabe your #5 guys on the depth chart between 18-20 minutes a night. It lines up pretty nice 1-7.
To keep harping on Tanev and Risto added. They have already tried to add a Tanev/Zadorov package this season, along with Schenn/Gudas this summer. I think they want that tough defenseman. If they both came in. Tanev and Brodie would be the #2/3 guys. 20-22 minutes a night. Ristolainen would be your #4 and McCabe your #5 guys on the depth chart between 18-20 minutes a night. It lines up pretty nice 1-7.
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LeafChief
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Liam Foudy is not good. He is very fast but not a good hockey player. Not worth it unless they want to try to get him to the Marlies.
Fogelhund
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That's true... but do we really need a guy who needs sheltering like that? At that cap hit? We need a big guy who can hit... and can be used heavily in the D zone... not sheltered like that... but I guess congrats to Philly for polishing a turd a little.
Rare Jewel
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So, are these frameworks we're looking at?
Peeke for Hirvonen (or another prospect) + 5th round pick
Tanev for 1st round pick + Abruzzese + 3rd round pick
Ferarro (+ a forward) for 1st/conditional + Neimela + 5th round pick
Peeke for Hirvonen (or another prospect) + 5th round pick
Tanev for 1st round pick + Abruzzese + 3rd round pick
Ferarro (+ a forward) for 1st/conditional + Neimela + 5th round pick
Fogelhund
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Where we would place him on waivers, and gets claimed... the right thing for him, is the AHL.
Buds17
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Ristolainen??? #4 how much is his contract again that would be one of the stupidest moves they could do in an all in scenario
Magic Man
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His contract at full hit 5.1M cap hit for 4 seasons including this one. I don't think he's worth the gamble at the cap hit. I'd assume significant retention 2.55M - 4M. Somewhere between those numbers over 4 years at his age is alright. That contract compares favorably to the Schenn and Gudas deals and likely whatever Zadorov signs for who the Leafs have all been connected too. I'd be willing to gamble Ristolainen is better than them.
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He's atrocious
Gambling on him is a mugs game
He has nothing going for him but his size, being big is nice but that can't be your only redeeming quality
hamzarocks
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Only trade for him if its at 50% retained and they give us either Cutter Guaither or their 2024 unprotected 1st
He is a guy if he got bought out then yoy can give him 1 year 1.5M and see if he can be a bounce back guy (OEL)
No way we want him at 5+M for longterm
weems
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Nope, My post wasn't trying to justify somehow aquiring him but moreso showing that his stats could start to look better because it looks like he's starting to get heaviliy sheltered.
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An absolutely awful contract. And even with retention we'd be stuck with him for half a decade.
No thanks.
TheGroceryStick
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There is almost like no chance we'll ever see Jenner being traded away from them....I would LOVE him but just can't see it at all.
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The TSN Hockey Insiders join host James Duthie to discuss the latest trade speculation around the Leafs, Tyson Barrie and Tony DeAngelo on the market with similar skill sets, the Flames and Chris Tanev, interest in Ethan Bear, and an update on Thomas Chabot. They also discuss the 2026 Olympics...
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A week ago, when Nikita Zadorov was traded from Calgary to Vancouver, I think the reaction of some [Toronto Maple Leafs] fans was when do we get a guy? And now that they know John Klingberg is gone for the year, the urgency heats up a little bit. Where are they at?
Darren Dreger: Well, let's use the term that Brad Treliving often uses and that is - he's grinding away. He's working on it. He'd like to add a defenceman - preferably a right-shot guy - but the prices, right now, are too high. If you look at Chris Tanev of the Calgary Flames - the Flames want to keep their powder dry, here. They want to see the momentum build - if you will - in terms of the ask. Would Toronto be willing to give up a second-round draft pick for Chris Tanev? Maybe. But Toronto doesn't have a second-round draft pick. They're limited in their draft supply. You look at Sean Walker [of] the Philadelphia Flyers, again, he's a really strong right-shot defenceman. The Flyers love him, but it's expected they could command as much as a first-round draft pick for him. And another familiar name to Toronto Maple Leafs fans: Ilya Lyubushkin [of] the Anaheim Ducks. Anaheim doesn't want to trade him just yet, so everybody has to be patient.
Pierre LeBrun: In the meantime, there are two other defencemen with a similar skill set, both on the market as well. Tony DeAngelo (Carolina Hurricanes) has been on for a while now and the market has been kind of soft for him so far. But Tyson Barrie's trade request puts him on the market. Both power-play guys, puck-moving guys, but both guys whose role has been reduced in their respective teams. So, nothing imminent on either front is my sense. But what’s interesting is that in terms of Tyson Barrie, I don't think the Predators want to retain salary on his $4.5-million cap hit, and that adds a complicated factor to trying to move him. They're already retaining money on Ryan Johansen from the trade (with the Colorado Avalanche) last summer. They have buyout charges from Matt Duchene. So, they'd like to make a hockey trade with Tyson Barrie, if possible. The bottom line here is (Predators general manager) Barry Trotz likes Tyson Barrie as a person, as a player, but his role has been reduced. Now, interestingly ... the [Calgary] Flames - they've gotten calls on both Tyson Barrie and on Tony DeAngelo over the last little while because obviously, 'Hey, they traded Zadorov, they must have room for another defenceman.' But the answer was that for now, Calgary is in no rush to make another move ... and certainly that means on Chris Tanev, even though there's tons of interest in him, I think the Flames are in absolutely no rush to move him, and they want to see this team play for a bit here and let the market continue to develop on the hulking defenceman.
Well, for all teams looking for a defenceman, there is a guy out there that wouldn't cost you any draft picks or any players - just a little bit of money in Ethan Bear. [Is he] ready to play again?
Chris Johnston: He's getting very close. The fact that he is only going to cost you the cap space that it takes to bring him in, I think has helped drive some interest here on the 26- year-old defenceman, to the point that he's going to allow teams on Monday of next week to come to Kelowna. If anyone wants to get a look at him on the ice - see him go through his paces - after having off-season shoulder surgery. Remember that he was injured playing for Team Canada at the World Hockey Championship last year. He's had a long recovery from that shoulder surgery, but he's getting close. The Vancouver Canucks have interest in bringing him back. I think the Leafs have shown interest there. That team to watch could be the Washington Capitals. They seem to be keenly interested. New Jersey and Pittsburgh as well. There's certainly no shortage of interest in Bear, who can be signed just for the money it costs to pay him.
TheMadHatTrick
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I know we wouldn't have the guts to do sell and retool, but if we lose any more bodies to injury what could we expect back in trade for guys like Bertuzzi and Brodie at the deadline?
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TheMadHatTrick
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I wasn't asking if we would do it, I was asking what they could get back in a hypothetical trade.
Rare Jewel
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Bertuzzi has an NMC anyway, so it's quite difficult to move him.
The D is shallow enough as it is, even if Brodie is waning.
Well that makes it really tricky. What position would we want? Or just draft picks? Or are we attaching him to someone else?
TheMadHatTrick
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I was thinking picks or prospects standard rental price. Would a first rounder be too much to ask for either?
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