Trades and Free Agency Thread - Quarantine reduced to 7 days

[Sypher04]

Unfortunately with Kerfoot KD signed him as a guy who could get around 40pts at pre-flat cap rates. I am not sure why he jumped on that so hard without a game played unless maybe he didn't like the optics of trading Kadri for two pending FAs but he isn't close to worth $3.5M in todays environment. With a stronger start next season and any cap relief in sight at all it becomes easier but right now he is a negative asset unless the Leafs retain and they might have to pay the Kraken to take him this summer. I think he is better than the 7th forward on a bunch of teams but not at the $3.5 with 2 1/2 years to go. If they retain $1M I think they they may have options without getting their pockets picked but that isn't much cap freed up for a big move. Dubas may be reluctant to make such a move as that would make the Kadri deal look even worse so my guess is Kerf is not going anywhere this season.

As to Hall, he makes any club better but he isn't a goalie or a center or a physical force so how much harder does he make the club to play against without filling a real void?

In the context of today, most players in the NHL aren't worth their contract, because so much of the league was paid based on the understanding of cap growth. Kerfoot was paid right in line with comparable contracts like Kapanen and Johnsson

And Hall would give us another player capable of driving play himself, which is valuable no matter what. This team doesn't have many legitimate needs. Moreso looking at luxuries in most positions in terms of deadline adds. That said, im not really saying we definitely should get Hall, but it's a reasonable conversation

 

[Griffski]

I haven’t watched much flyers and his stats are really bad but what about Nolan Patrick? Guys got the talent and potential. He’s just had such a brutal time in philly. Wondering with a change of scenery if he could flourish.

high risk high reward.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Unfortunately with Kerfoot KD signed him as a guy who could get around 40pts at pre-flat cap rates. I am not sure why he jumped on that so hard without a game played unless maybe he didn't like the optics of trading Kadri for two pending FAs but he isn't close to worth $3.5M in todays environment. With a stronger start next season and any cap relief in sight at all it becomes easier but right now he is a negative asset unless the Leafs retain and they might have to pay the Kraken to take him this summer. I think he is better than the 7th forward on a bunch of teams but not at the $3.5 with 2 1/2 years to go. If they retain $1M I think they they may have options without getting their pockets picked but that isn't much cap freed up for a big move. Dubas may be reluctant to make such a move as that would make the Kadri deal look even worse so my guess is Kerf is not going anywhere this season.

As to Hall, he makes any club better but he isn't a goalie or a center or a physical force so how much harder does he make the club to play against without filling a real void?

Dubas is not going to be worried about the optics of the Kadri deal, especially since he likely has no regrets about making the deal and doesn't blow it completely out of proportion like fans and media consistently seem to do. If the right deal(s) comes along to move and replace Kerfoot, he almost certainly does it. The problem is, there are not too many guys on the market who can effectively replace Kerfoot right now.

Kerfoot would still make at least in the 3 mill range if he were to be signed right now. Connor Brown got 3x3.6 with one 40 point season playing full time in a top 6 (albeit on a bad team), Chandler Stevenson received 4 x 2.75 mill after pacing for 45 points in half a season with Vegas but was nothing more than a 20 point 4th liner before that, Radek Faksa got 5 x 3.25 mill and never put up/paced for more than 35 points in a season and is not really a better defensive player than Kerfoot either (he is bigger, hits a little bit more, and is better at draws though). Kerfoot is comparable, if not better, than a lot of these guys and they are all in that 3 mill range.

If you want to go to UFA and get a guy who is similar to Kerfoot, you are probably paying a similar amount as what Kerfoot is making right now.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I haven’t watched much flyers and his stats are really bad but what about Nolan Patrick? Guys got the talent and potential. He’s just had such a brutal time in philly. Wondering with a change of scenery if he could flourish.

high risk high reward.

I would not be surprised if Nashville does end up moving Ekholm, Patrick is one of the main pieces going back.

 

[DougGilmour93]

I’m not sure I feel this team is a trade or two away from being Stanley cup contenders. The way they’ve played lately is concerning/upsetting. Sure they picked up the win last night but, c’mon, on paper we should be destying a lot of these teams and we’re not. Not to mention, we’re not even playing any American teams this season.

If Dubas does decide to make deals this year, he’s almost certainly gonna have to swing for the fences and bring in top tier talent/character for us to have a long run in the playoffs. Can he do it? I’m not so sure.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

1st // Amirov // Robertson

Probably 2 of these pieces will be moved

It's time to add a "last piece" type trade.

I just think Dubas is fighting with himself if that piece is Top6 wing, 3C , depth D or Support in net.

The stumble here has made things difficult to pinpoint

 

[LeafChief]

1st // Amirov // Robertson

Probably 2 of these pieces will be moved

It's time to add a "last piece" type trade.

I just think Dubas is fighting with himself if that piece is Top6 wing, 3C , too D and now Goalie

I'd be surprised if any of those pieces were moved.

 

[DougGilmour93]

I'd be surprised if any of those pieces were moved.

I can see our 1st and Amirov moving. Robertson, highly unlikely.

 

[LeafChief]

I can see our 1st and Amirov moving. Robertson, highly unlikely.

There really isn't a rental available that is worth Amirov and a 1st. That would even be too much for someone with term like Ekholm.

Those pieces are not likely to be moved.

 

[dubplatepressure]

There really isn't a rental available that is worth Amirov and a 1st. That would even be too much for someone with term like Ekholm.

Those pieces are not likely to be moved.

Completely agree. We'd need a young stud top-6 forward or top-4 D with top pairing potential under 25 YO. I don't see that out there.

 

[GBLeaf]

There really isn't a rental available that is worth Amirov and a 1st. That would even be too much for someone with term like Ekholm.

Those pieces are not likely to be moved.

Totally agree. Would have to be someone who'd not only impact now, but in the future too at a good cap hit. Cos it would cost Amirov, a 1st and whoever we've lose in the expansion draft.

I don't think that value exists.

Keep Sandin, Robertson, Timmy and Amirov. We need their ELC's on the roster in the coming years, then we'll need them on bridge deals after.

 

[4thline]

I keep coming back to Namestnikov. Excellent package of cap affordability, acquisition affordability, and roster flexibility.

+With 50% retention he's basically interchangeable with an ELC, and only requires ~300k cap this season
+ plus level defensively
+high work rate, tenacious and fiesty
+viable 3C
+has been a 48 point player as 3rd fiddle with Kucherov, good success in a limited sample with the Avs.

-not strong on faceoffs

He could be a fit with M&M to free up Hyman to drive the 3rd line, he could round out the 3rd line to free up Hyman to play with M&M. He could be a sparkplug and lock in a 3rd line quality 4th line. He could play up when injuries hit. All at a price where none of those is a waste.

 

[Faltorvo]

Think he would be a really good fit for the Leafs, both as a top 6 or 3rd liner depending on where Hyman is in the lineup. Getting him at 50% would allow them to either add another cheap player or just have a 21-man active roster.

Still think Granlund is a better fit (him being able to easily play both wings & centre gives him the edge, plus I think he's a little bit better than Iafallo) & Hall is a good enough fit & the best forward available but it's looking more and more likely Granlund won't be moved, at least not until close to TDL day.

Now that ES is off to Montreal,,,we need to get

our back up 2nd C is,,,,,,,,, effn Kerfoot,,,that needs to change big time,,it was Kadri,,Granlund goes a long way in fixing that Fk UP

 

[stickty111]

Would anyone be up for Rittich? Just saw on twitter as an option. Owed 2.85 million and won't need to quarantine.

 

[Mickey Marner]

I can't see us trading Robertson. The 1st or Amirov sure, but Robertson will have a 793k AAV in 2023-24 as long as we don't needlessly burn his ELC slide this year. That will be more valuable than anything we could trade him for this season.

I like the idea of Namestinikov, Järnkrok or Kempe, but they feel a bit redundant with Kerfoot, who we can't seem to find a permanent role for. If Kerfoot were making 2 AAV like them we probably wouldn't even be hunting for them, but rather a bigger fish.

Aside from a goalie, the realistic targets I'm most interested in are Ekholm, Foligno or Laughton, probably in that order. Either go big with a fourth top-four defenseman or pick up a rental forward who brings some grit and won't cost a serious asset.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Would anyone be up for Rittich? Just saw on twitter as an option. Owed 2.85 million and won't need to quarantine.

Id be into it

 

[Mickey Marner]

Would anyone be up for Rittich? Just saw on twitter as an option. Owed 2.85 million and won't need to quarantine.

In free agency maybe, I wouldn't pay much for five starts and a negotiation window.

 

[SprDaVE]

Would anyone be up for Rittich? Just saw on twitter as an option. Owed 2.85 million and won't need to quarantine.

I'd rather keep Andersen but if there's a chance he's out for the season or for a long time, he wouldn't be a bad option at all.

 

[Clark4Ever]

With the impact Galchenyuk has had thus far in a limited sample size, I think it would be a waste to give up a first round pick or any of our top prospects for a forward. If we can acquire a rental for a reasonable cost, then that could still be worth exploring.

We should also be able to acquire goaltending and defensive depth without giving up significant assets.

 

[Jozay]

Gut feeling is that Dubas will push for Palmieri.

Guess we'll see if the Devils work out an extension.

 

[Faltorvo]

Thought A- Thornton has 8 points in 4 games against the hapless early season Sens, 4 points in his other 18 games. I think he plays a big part in the room, but at this point it's pretty clear that he should be the odd man out of the top-9.

Thought B- if you ignore the 67 games (less than 1 full season) before coming into the org, is there any rental other than Hall that projects to be as impactful offensively as Galchenyuk?

Maybe Granlund? Given that our back up 2 C is Kerfoot

Kerf and Engvall have like what? a 100 combined games playing C in the NHL and ZERO in the play offs. And we are calling for a deep cup run?

 

[Faltorvo]

He's got a big money contract, so not sure we can get the cap to work, but a guy like Travis Zajac would be pretty idea to take that 3rd line centre job. Good defensively, good on face-offs, and an excellent PKer.

If we can send Kerfoot the other way, and New Jersey retains 50%, we can add Zajac and either one of Kyle Palmieri or Ryan Murray.

Geesuz,,,i like the idea of TZ but that 5.75m cap hit,, woof,,,even if it's ;laundered down to us,,,the asset costs in that alone hurts

 

[TheGroceryStick]

I still think we need to nab Bennett... but my wish is Jenner or Foligno
Though both are doable, with the right mix or players + Retention.

Upgrading both Kerfoot and Engvall to more character playoff type guys would put us ahead of the curve

OUT:
Kerfoot + Engvall + 1st + Prospect
IN
Jenner /Foligno + Bennett (retained)

Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Bennett/Foligno- Tavares - Nylander
Simmonds - Jenner/Bennett - Galchenyuk
Mikhayev - Spezza - Thornton /Robertson

 

[4thline]

Maybe Granlund? Given that our back up 2 C is Kerfoot

Kerf and Engvall have like what? a 100 combined games playing C in the NHL and ZERO in the play offs. And we are calling for a deep cup run?

I don't hate Granlund, but he hasn't been an NHL centre in like 5 seasons. If getting C insurance is a priority his teammate and countryman Haula would be a better bet

 

[Faltorvo]

I don't hate Granlund, but he hasn't been an NHL centre in like 5 seasons. If getting C insurance is a priority his teammate and countryman Haula would be a better bet

EH the last 5 yr no biggy TBVH

he had like 460 career starts in Minny,,,he knows the role of C,,still works the dot in Nash 400 times since he got there