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123offtheglass said:
If the Leafs are planning on moving Kerfoot in the offseason they should be pushing to do it now because they really could use the cap space NOW & 3.5m on your 4th line isn't good enough for a cap strapped team. Throw asset management out the window even if the difference is getting a 4th for him vs giving up a 4th/c prospect to send him somewhere; he just isn't a great fit for this team at 3.5m. Team is going to have to give up assets just to have player(s) retained anyways because of their cap situation.
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A future 4th round pick is not going to make or break this team. His salary is a little rich for us, but in terms of fit I think he's fine. Produces fairly decently given his minutes and is not a defensive liability, kills penalties, can be used on any line from 2 to 4 but perfect in the 3 slot. I don't move Kerfoot until I know I need what I need the salary for first.
 
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With Nashville playing better as of late and Chicago continuing to play decent, Columbus has fallen behind both those teams. Hopefully that keeps up cause I wouldn’t mind adding Foligno at all.
 
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Hall Matthews Marner
Gally Tavares Nylander
Hyman Engvall Mikheyev
Thornton/Simmonds Kerfoot Spezza



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Think there would be really great chemistry between Nylander & Hall in transition, with Tavares chipping in in different areas as well like around the net; Some of the chemistry he had with Matthews that's missing with Tavares could be rediscovered.
I could easily see them connecting connecting on a lot of similar plays to these:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qEQov6hawU
Travis Zajac redirects Taylor Hall pass past Andrei Vasilevskiy - Sportsnet.ca
https://twitter.com/TicTacTOmar/status/1375967731099521027?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1375967731099521027|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://theathletic.com/2481722/2021/03/28/maple-leafs-report-cards-auston-matthews-caps-comeback-in-overtime-to-beat-oilers-yet-again/
https://twitter.com/TicTacTOmar/status/1237456782471188481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl2mnPA92UE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr3a-u03xPY

Edit: I however, think that Hall would be a bad fit fit Matthews-Marner, and if Chucky keeps building on his play & chemistry with JT-Willie than I don't think Hall is the best option. Hall could potentially run a 3rd line of his own too though.
 
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Hall has never been on my radar this year as a deadline pick up, but I feel like if the cap can be worked out (probably need double retention or Kerfoot in the deal) and it could be done at a buy low price, it is something you have to seriously consider at least
 
Thought A- Thornton has 8 points in 4 games against the hapless early season Sens, 4 points in his other 18 games. I think he plays a big part in the room, but at this point it's pretty clear that he should be the odd man out of the top-9.

Thought B- if you ignore the 67 games (less than 1 full season) before coming into the org, is there any rental other than Hall that projects to be as impactful offensively as Galchenyuk?
 
TMLAM34 said:
With Nashville playing better as of late and Chicago continuing to play decent, Columbus has fallen behind both those teams. Hopefully that keeps up cause I wouldn’t mind adding Foligno at all.
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Yeah they are on the edge of the cliff. I think they are in sell mode already but their asks will start out pretty rich until we get close to the deadline and the non playoff group is solidified. As a buyer you still might want to wait for all the sellers to be identified as well. Foligno seems like a player that would help fill a need but he has been a 30pt guy for a few years now and the cost has to reflect that. I am expecting something to go down but it could well be another Galchenyuk type deal or a goalie move.
 
TMLAM34 said:
With Nashville playing better as of late and Chicago continuing to play decent, Columbus has fallen behind both those teams. Hopefully that keeps up cause I wouldn’t mind adding Foligno at all.
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Columbus just lost to Detroit yesterday and are playing them again today; there next 6 games after that up until April 8: @ TBL, @ TBL, @ FLA, @ FLA, VS TBL, VS TBL.

Think Foligno would be a great add for playoff hockey, he can play anywhere as well.
 
TMLAM34 said:
With Nashville playing better as of late and Chicago continuing to play decent, Columbus has fallen behind both those teams. Hopefully that keeps up cause I wouldn’t mind adding Foligno at all.
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He's got a big money contract, so not sure we can get the cap to work, but a guy like Travis Zajac would be pretty idea to take that 3rd line centre job. Good defensively, good on face-offs, and an excellent PKer.

If we can send Kerfoot the other way, and New Jersey retains 50%, we can add Zajac and either one of Kyle Palmieri or Ryan Murray.
 
Dreakmur said:
He's got a big money contract, so not sure we can get the cap to work, but a guy like Travis Zajac would be pretty idea to take that 3rd line centre job. Good defensively, good on face-offs, and an excellent PKer.

If we can send Kerfoot the other way, and New Jersey retains 50%, we can add Zajac and either one of Kyle Palmieri or Ryan Murray.
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I was actually just look at the East and thinking about that, can shenanigans aside if possible and at equal cost do we go with Murray+Zajac or Savard+Foligno. I think my preference is the Devils
 
Sypher04 said:
Hall has never been on my radar this year as a deadline pick up, but I feel like if the cap can be worked out (probably need double retention or Kerfoot in the deal) and it could be done at a buy low price, it is something you have to seriously consider at least
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Unfortunately with Kerfoot KD signed him as a guy who could get around 40pts at pre-flat cap rates. I am not sure why he jumped on that so hard without a game played unless maybe he didn't like the optics of trading Kadri for two pending FAs but he isn't close to worth $3.5M in todays environment. With a stronger start next season and any cap relief in sight at all it becomes easier but right now he is a negative asset unless the Leafs retain and they might have to pay the Kraken to take him this summer. I think he is better than the 7th forward on a bunch of teams but not at the $3.5 with 2 1/2 years to go. If they retain $1M I think they they may have options without getting their pockets picked but that isn't much cap freed up for a big move. Dubas may be reluctant to make such a move as that would make the Kadri deal look even worse so my guess is Kerf is not going anywhere this season.

As to Hall, he makes any club better but he isn't a goalie or a center or a physical force so how much harder does he make the club to play against without filling a real void?
 
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I can't remember how the cap works. Does Andersen being on IR give them some daily cap accumulation?

And being on LTIR stops the daily accumulation but allows you to use the injured players full cap space, right?
 
4thline said:
I was actually just look at the East and thinking about that, can shenanigans aside if possible and at equal cost do we go with Murray+Zajac or Savard+Foligno. I think my preference is the Devils
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Lou will probably overpay to bring in Zajac. Wouldn't be surprised if he does the same for Foligno.

We don't have a need for those kind of high cap defensemen, and neither are really upgrades anyways.
 
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SeaOfBlue said:
Lou will probably overpay to bring in Zajac. Wouldn't be surprised if he does the same for Foligno.

We don't have a need for those kind of high cap defensemen, and neither are really upgrades anyways.
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Savard would be a waste, but while not a need a top 4 quality LHD that bumps Dermott to 7 makes us our defense much deeper for both in game matchups/ load management and for handling injuries.
 
4thline said:
Savard would be a waste, but while not a need a top 4 quality LHD that bumps Dermott to 7 makes us our defense much deeper for both in game matchups/ load management and for handling injuries.
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Ryan Murray is not a top 4 quality LHD though. Never really has been outside of 2018-2019. He has barely even been a bottom pairing quality LHD for most of his career. Passable, but the kind of guy you look to upgrade, not be an upgrade. Dermott is a better defenseman right now so it would be a counterproductive move.
 
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SeaOfBlue said:
Lou will probably overpay to bring in Zajac. Wouldn't be surprised if he does the same for Foligno.
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Yes, he might do that. Does that change that those guys should probably be our primary targets? Yeah, we don't pay more than we think they're worth.... but still try to get the price down to where we think it's fair. If the price is too high, move on to the secondary options.

We don't have a need for those kind of high cap defensemen, and neither are really upgrades anyways.
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As long as we can fit them in, cap hits don't really matter, do they? Murray is a huge upgrade over Dermott.
 
nuck said:
Unfortunately with Kerfoot KD signed him as a guy who could get around 40pts at pre-flat cap rates. I am not sure why he jumped on that so hard without a game played unless maybe he didn't like the optics of trading Kadri for two pending FAs but he isn't close to worth $3.5M in todays environment. With a stronger start next season and any cap relief in sight at all it becomes easier but right now he is a negative asset unless the Leafs retain and they might have to pay the Kraken to take him this summer. I think he is better than the 7th forward on a bunch of teams but not at the $3.5 with 2 1/2 years to go. If they retain $1M I think they they may have options without getting their pockets picked but that isn't much cap freed up for a big move. Dubas may be reluctant to make such a move as that would make the Kadri deal look even worse so my guess is Kerf is not going anywhere this season.

As to Hall, he makes any club better but he isn't a goalie or a center or a physical force so how much harder does he make the club to play against without filling a real void?
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I couldn't believe it when he signed Kerfoot for that much on a contract so high in signing bonuses & front loaded...

Almost 1/2 of Kerfoot's points in Colorado came off of their lethal powerplay, 5v5 he's actually outproduced what he did with the Avalanche.

At least after his next signing bonus it should be much easier to move his cap hit; only owed 3.45m/2yr compared to 7m/2yr so big savings there.
 
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