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Jozay said:
Ekholm and Granlund would be ideal lol.

Probably asking for too much at that point.
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I agree with some other posters.
If you can get Ekholm, you free up the ability to trade Morgan if his ask is north of 6m on term, which it will be.

Try to flip Reilly in the offseason to a team who loses a D to Seattle.
Look for a few recent 1st/2nd round picks who can play C.

LA is going to be rebuilding, and could use a LHD for the next few years to help lighten the offensive responsibility. Kupari ++ type deal with LA.

Rangers make a ton of sense. Brendan Smiths contract is done this year, they have a right side of Trouba, Fox. Left side of Miller and Hajak.

A deal around Gorgiev + Lemieux + Nils Lundkvist? 1B goalie who is cheap, mid 6 winger who is cheap, and a recent RHD who has looked good since being drafted.

NJ has a bad left side on d, cant score, and have a ton of cap room. Wood and Zacha have been on most Leafs target lists and combined make what Reilly makes. Do the Devils trade their 3C (when Hisher and Hughes are healthy) and their 3W for a top pair D? If you can only get one of the two, they have some really interesting prospects on the cusp of the NHL in Foote, Bahl, Boqvist, Mercer, Mukhamadullin etc.
 
Cor said:
DeBrusk averages .23 hits per 60 than Pierre Engvall. The dude can be annoying, but he's not gonna drastically increase our physicality.


If we wanted to acquire anyone from Boston to bring nastiness and physicality, it's probably Sean Kuraly.

Side-Note: I would love to sign Sean Kuraly in the off-season.
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Oh buddy, sign me up!

I love Kuraly.
 
Cor said:
DeBrusk averages .23 hits per 60 than Pierre Engvall. The dude can be annoying, but he's not gonna drastically increase our physicality.


If we wanted to acquire anyone from Boston to bring nastiness and physicality, it's probably Sean Kuraly.

Side-Note: I would love to sign Sean Kuraly in the off-season.
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Sean Kuraly is the ideal modern bottom 6er
 
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An asking price is not what is necessarily what the going price is going to be. In fact it rarely even comes close. His career, and Current abilities model most similarly to TJ Brodie on the Leafs. Lets pretend we were in the exact spot that Nashville is in right now. and for arguments sake lets just say Ek is worth an additional 2nd round pick over whatever we'd expect to get back for TJ just to eliminate this nonsensical chatter on who is the better player between the 2. Do you think the Leafs would get a 1st rounder, and an elite prospect for TJ Brodie??? not a f***ing chance. So why would Nash get a 1st, Elite prospect, and another piece?

remember, they are both the same age, have similar career numbers, and play very similar styles.

I recognize retention and term cost money, but that is under pre-pandemic circumstances. Nashville is going to be trading to contenders, and they are all likely up against the cap. If they want to make any deal, they will likely have to retain or take back money. Not to mention term is really not as valuable this year as it was in every other year, as it is just 1 extra player you have to potentially pay to protect during expansion.
 
i think you do your minor tinkering come the deadline unless you get a deal on something. otherwise i think you circle back come july see which owners are feeling the most of the financial squeeze.

right now with only a few teams being out of it i think most big names are going to cost a foolish amount.

the goalie problem is a issue . i have hope campbell will take the reigns and run but you never know.

freddy rask dubnyk raanta. i think will all be overpaid

as many have said it might be time to rebuild our goaltender developmental system.
 
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WTFMAN99 said:
Oh buddy, sign me up!

I love Kuraly.
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If your looking for just hits, Austin Watson is on a Canadian team, and is relatively cheap.
1.5m is high for a guy who is on pace for 25 points, but he brings what I think some Leafs fans want for the playoffs.

If we are looking for a cheap D with snarl, Hakanpaa from Anaheim has been frigin impressive this year. His advanced stats show he is a bottom pair guy, but he hits a ton and like a truck, and he is a real S o b in front of the net.

My target:
Wishful thinking = Nathan Bastian is having a really good year for a young guy, is 6'4, hits and at 23 still has room to grow. His advanced stats on a bad NJ team are pretty impressive. Positive Corsi and Corsi rel even with starting 69% (nice) of the time in the defensive zone. IMO this is what a legit top 4 shutdown D man looks like when he breaks out. If you can find a way to steal him, do it.

Buy low = Lawson Crouse is having another solid physical year, but his offense has dried up a bit since last year. This probably makes him pretty affordable, and if he even just gets back to where he was pre-covid he is a solid 3W (30ish point guy) who hits a ton and isnt afraid to mix it up. Problem with Crouse is we have never seen him play with good players, he has been 3 or 4W most of his time on a bad Arizona team that doesn't have depth pieces.

'Guy who hits' who is 'Realistic' = Scott Laughton. He hits. He is above average on the PK. The eye test says he is fine defensively, the stats disagree.
He is a UFA at year end. He makes 2.3m this year. He starts most of the time in his own end.
Philly is right now on the outside looking in for a playoff spot, with Boston and Pittsburgh being the teams they need to leapfrog to get in.
 
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TML1967 said:
If your looking for just hits, Austin Watson is on a Canadian team, and is relatively cheap.
1.5m is high for a guy who is on pace for 25 points, but he brings what I think some Leafs fans want for the playoffs.

If we are looking for a cheap D with snarl, Hakanpaa from Anaheim has been frigin impressive this year. His advanced stats show he is a bottom pair guy, but he hits a ton and like a truck, and he is a real S o b in front of the net.

My target:
Wishful thinking = Nathan Bastian is having a really good year for a young guy, is 6'4, hits and at 23 still has room to grow. His advanced stats on a bad NJ team are pretty impressive. Positive Corsi and Corsi rel even with starting 69% (nice) of the time in the defensive zone. IMO this is what a legit top 4 shutdown D man looks like when he breaks out. If you can find a way to steal him, do it.

Buy low = Lawson Crouse is having another solid physical year, but his offense has dried up a bit since last year. This probably makes him pretty affordable, and if he even just gets back to where he was pre-covid he is a solid 3W (30ish point guy) who hits a ton and isnt afraid to mix it up. Problem with Crouse is we have never seen him play with good players, he has been 3 or 4W most of his time on a bad Arizona team that doesn't have depth pieces.

'Guy who hits' who is 'Realistic' = Scott Laughton. He hits. He is above average on the PK. The eye test says he is fine defensively, the stats disagree.
He is a UFA at year end. He makes 2.3m this year. He starts most of the time in his own end.
Philly is right now on the outside looking in for a playoff spot, with Boston and Pittsburgh being the teams they need to leapfrog to get in.
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My Capfriendly on the last page had us adding Laughton as a UFA at the deadline.

Not looking for just hits either, you have to watch to really appreciate Kuraly but just plays with a ton of intensity. Great for the 4th line, I think in the flat cap environment, he's likely getting a pay cut.
 
TML1967 said:
I agree with some other posters.
If you can get Ekholm, you free up the ability to trade Morgan if his ask is north of 6m on term, which it will be.
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If you get Ekholm, you still have to pay him and his ask is going to be close to 6 mill with term himself (look at what Muzzin received, and he probably took a bit less to stay with the Leafs). Maybe less term than Rielly, but he is also 4 years older.

You would also have no offensively capable defensemen on your defense. At best you can hope Sandin and Liljegren get there eventually, but that won't be for at least a couple of seasons barring a miraculous leap.

6 mill would be a steal for Rielly. The concern should be if he asks for over 7 mill, like a Jared Spurgeon deal. That may get a bit dicey. If he is asking for a Krug or Faulk deal, however, you sign him up right away. 6.5 x 7 is a solid deal for him. That puts him in the 20's in terms of salary for defensemen right now, which is appropriate for him. Dougie Hamilton's new deal would also be a good marker.
 
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TML1967 said:
If your looking for just hits, Austin Watson is on a Canadian team, and is relatively cheap.
1.5m is high for a guy who is on pace for 25 points, but he brings what I think some Leafs fans want for the playoffs.

If we are looking for a cheap D with snarl, Hakanpaa from Anaheim has been frigin impressive this year. His advanced stats show he is a bottom pair guy, but he hits a ton and like a truck, and he is a real S o b in front of the net.

My target:
Wishful thinking = Nathan Bastian is having a really good year for a young guy, is 6'4, hits and at 23 still has room to grow. His advanced stats on a bad NJ team are pretty impressive. Positive Corsi and Corsi rel even with starting 69% (nice) of the time in the defensive zone. IMO this is what a legit top 4 shutdown D man looks like when he breaks out. If you can find a way to steal him, do it.

Buy low = Lawson Crouse is having another solid physical year, but his offense has dried up a bit since last year. This probably makes him pretty affordable, and if he even just gets back to where he was pre-covid he is a solid 3W (30ish point guy) who hits a ton and isnt afraid to mix it up. Problem with Crouse is we have never seen him play with good players, he has been 3 or 4W most of his time on a bad Arizona team that doesn't have depth pieces.

'Guy who hits' who is 'Realistic' = Scott Laughton. He hits. He is above average on the PK. The eye test says he is fine defensively, the stats disagree.
He is a UFA at year end. He makes 2.3m this year. He starts most of the time in his own end.
Philly is right now on the outside looking in for a playoff spot, with Boston and Pittsburgh being the teams they need to leapfrog to get in.
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Watson is out for ~6 weeks.
 
SeaOfBlue said:
You would also have no offensively capable defensemen on your defense. At best you can hope Sandin and Liljegren get there eventually, but that won't be for at least a couple of seasons barring a miraculous leap.

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Ekholm is offensively capable, but he most certainly is not in the same league as Rielly there. He’s put up 44 points with a less offensive team before and points in the thirties several times.

To me it comes down to Reilly’s ask. If you can get Ekholm with better D and less O for $6mil or less and Rielly is asking $7-8 mil +, you’ve got to go with Ekholm.
 
LeafChief said:
Hall and Ullmark. LTIR Andersen.
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:leafs
LW Taylor Hall (4 mill retained)
G Linus Ullmark (1.3 mill retained)
2021 7th round pick (BUF)

:sabres
LD Travis Dermott
RW Denis Malgin
G Ian Scott
LD James Greenway
2021 2nd round pick (TOR)

:leafs
LD Mike Reilly
C Clark Bishop

:sens
LD Kristians Rubins
RD Eemeli Rasanen
2022 5th round pick (TOR)

:leafs
RD Jani Hakanpaa

:ducks
RD Joseph Duszak

No conditions on any of the trades.

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This is based off of Andersen heading to the LTIR for the rest of the year, or getting traded to another team. If that doesn't happen, this clearly does not work.

Galchenyuk, Bishop, Barabanov are your taxi squad forwards.

Sandin, Liljegren, Marincin, Rosen are extra defensemen on top of those 7.

Hutchinson, Woll, and Vehvilainen are your extra goalies.
 
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Fogelhund said:
Ekholm is offensively capable, but he most certainly is not in the same league as Rielly there. He’s put up 44 points with a less offensive team before and points in the thirties several times.

To me it comes down to Reilly’s ask. If you can get Ekholm with better D and less O for $6mil or less and Rielly is asking $7-8 mil +, you’ve got to go with Ekholm.
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Ekholm also plays 3rd fiddle on offense behind Josi and Ellis ...so putting up points is not his main role.
I see him as a potential Reilly replacement
the expansion draft would cause issues. i definitely protect Ekholm, and Brodie then you pick between Reilly/Muzzin (7/3) and is both are still on the squad, it would have to be Reilly , so Muzzin is exposed.
I'd keep Reilly for the playoff run, and trade him before the draft, unless we can flip Reilly for a young/cheap/gritty top 6 forward
i guess we could always go 4/4 and have a decent D und then dump the D with the bigger ask, or Muzzin if he regresses.
 
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SeaOfBlue said:
:leafs
LW Taylor Hall (4 mill retained)
G Linus Ullmark (1.3 mill retained)
2021 7th round pick (BUF)

:sabres
LD Travis Dermott
RW Denis Malgin
G Ian Scott
LD James Greenway
2021 2nd round pick (TOR)



This is based off of Andersen heading to the LTIR for the rest of the year, or getting traded to another team. If that doesn't happen, this clearly does not work.

Galchenyuk, Bishop, Barabanov are your taxi squad forwards.

Sandin, Liljegren, Marincin, Rosen are extra defensemen on top of those 7.

Hutchinson, Woll, and Vehvilainen are your extra goalies.
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Buffalo get bent over and then steamrolled in this deal.
 
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BertCorbeau said:
Wouldn't be surprised. If it's a lingering groin issue, that can easily be justified for the LTIR.

Gives Dubas deadline cap room and the "excuse" to go goalie shopping.
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Well hockeybuzz is reporting the Leafs are looking at Quick again. I am no doctor but if it's a groin thing, that's got to be worse on a goalie than anyone else. With only 6 weeks left in the season, might not suck to shut him down to heal, LTIR, use the 5 million to play with, grab say, a Quick or whoever, then bring a healthy Anderson back for the playoffs when caps don't matter. And truly ride the hotter of Anderson/Campbell/whoever in the playoffs whoever it may be. **Edit - forget quick. 5.8 million for 2 more years after this, unless there's a huge retention**
 
budzz said:
Well hockeybuzz is reporting the Leafs are looking at Quick again. I am no doctor but if it's a groin thing, that's got to be worse on a goalie than anyone else. With only 6 weeks left in the season, might not suck to shut him down to heal, LTIR, use the 5 million to play with, grab say, a Quick or whoever, then bring a healthy Anderson back for the playoffs when caps don't matter. And truly ride the hotter of Anderson/Campbell/whoever in the playoffs whoever it may be. **Edit - forget quick. 5.8 million for 2 more years after this, unless there's a huge retention**
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Ignoring his play, Quick would probably be expansion fodder since the Leafs will protect Campbell.

Might be a sneaky pick up to back up Campbell, and also give Seattle a short term goalie that can help them reach the cap floor. This helps the Leafs keep all of Dermott, Kerfoot, and Holl.
 
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