Trades and Free Agency - 2022 Off-season

[Fogelhund]

Rodrigues would be a perfect fit for 2C on the Avs. I'm surprised that deal didn't get done the moment Kadri signed.

I don’t know about perfect, but perhaps the best remaining option. If he’s your 3C option, then you are doing well, but not so sure about as a 2C. But they should be doing everything that they can to make it happen, and he should view that as a great opportunity.

 

[LeafChief]

I don’t know about perfect, but perhaps the best remaining option. If he’s your 3C option, then you are doing well, but not so sure about as a 2C. But they should be doing everything that they can to make it happen, and he should view that as a great opportunity.

What is Rodrigues expected to sign for?

 

[andora]

I don’t know about perfect, but perhaps the best remaining option. If he’s your 3C option, then you are doing well, but not so sure about as a 2C. But they should be doing everything that they can to make it happen, and he should view that as a great opportunity.

I think they have the luxury of time too

I mean we are getting close to pto time anyway they will likely throw a few of those out there. They have options

- start with compher and see how the market opens up - he is bland and safe
- try newhook out sheltered to start
- see how ben meyers does
- run a rotation depending on zones

 

[TMLAM34]

Not sure why people are looking to add mediocre players to our bottom six like Motte and ZAR. We already did that by adding Aube-Kubel.

Engvall - Jarnkrok - Robertson
Gaudette - Kampf - Aube-Kubel

Aside from potentially replacing A-K with ZAR, I wouldn’t replace any of those players with either Motte or ZAR.

Not to mention we still have Clifford and Simmonds if we really need the heavy physical play from game to game.

The second line LW spot is still a major concern and it’s pretty disappointing Dubas hasn’t addressed it.

 

[stickty111]

Not sure why people are looking to add mediocre players to our bottom six like Motte and ZAR. We already did that by adding Aube-Kubel.

Engvall - Jarnkrok - Robertson
Gaudette - Kampf - Aube-Kubel

Aside from potentially replacing A-K with ZAR, I wouldn’t replace any of those players with either Motte or ZAR.

Not to mention we still have Clifford and Simmonds if we really need the heavy physical play from game to game.

The second line LW spot is still a major concern and it’s pretty disappointing Dubas hasn’t addressed it.

I wouldn't call Motte and ZAR mediocre. They are tenacious forecheckers who bring physicality. They are perfect 4th liners. Simmonds and Clifford are pretty much done as players unless they are 13th forwards.
The 2nd line LW will likely come at the deadline

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Not sure why people are looking to add mediocre players to our bottom six like Motte and ZAR. We already did that by adding Aube-Kubel.

Engvall - Jarnkrok - Robertson
Gaudette - Kampf - Aube-Kubel

Aside from potentially replacing A-K with ZAR, I wouldn’t replace any of those players with either Motte or ZAR.

Not to mention we still have Clifford and Simmonds if we really need the heavy physical play from game to game.

The second line LW spot is still a major concern and it’s pretty disappointing Dubas hasn’t addressed it.

If Gaudette is seriously being considered for a spot, we need to add someone else. He is a pure AAAA option who should be on the Marlies to start the year... and for the foreseeable future.

2LW spot is less of a concern. We have Anderson as someone who would fit well there if he can adapt to LW (or if we use Nylander there). Failing that, we have other guys to use there... and we just need someone who gels well with that line.

 

[Americanadian]

I don’t know about perfect, but perhaps the best remaining option. If he’s your 3C option, then you are doing well, but not so sure about as a 2C. But they should be doing everything that they can to make it happen, and he should view that as a great opportunity.

I’m really high on ERod and I think he’d fit Colorado’s system. He was wildly productive when he played in Pittsburghs top 6 last year and he’d arguably have better line mates as 2C in Colorado.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I don’t know about perfect, but perhaps the best remaining option. If he’s your 3C option, then you are doing well, but not so sure about as a 2C. But they should be doing everything that they can to make it happen, and he should view that as a great opportunity.

I wouldn't use him as a center at all. He is a winger to me.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I think they have the luxury of time too

I mean we are getting close to pto time anyway they will likely throw a few of those out there. They have options

- start with compher and see how the market opens up - he is bland and safe
- try newhook out sheltered to start
- see how ben meyers does
- run a rotation depending on zones

Unless Newhook takes a massive leap forward, they have one of worst center lineups in the league after MacKinnon. Add in very questionable forward depth overall and a goalie question mark as large as ours... Colorado should not be happy staying put.

If they don't get at least one of those higher end UFAs, and arguably another guy too, then they should be first in line to pay our price for Kerfoot.

Maybe they can't mitigate their 2C problem, but they need to find at least one guy who can be a strong fit for their top 9 and possibly play center.

 

[Americanadian]

I wouldn't use him as a center at all. He is a winger to me.

Curious why you view ERod as just a winger?

I think they have the luxury of time too

I mean we are getting close to pto time anyway they will likely throw a few of those out there. They have options

- start with compher and see how the market opens up - he is bland and safe
- try newhook out sheltered to start
- see how ben meyers does
- run a rotation depending on zones

They also experimented with Rantanen at C last year.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

LEAFS - CANADIENS
Jake Muzzin & 2nd 2024
for
Josh Anderson (1 Mil Ret)

Habs move out an awful long term contract (albeit retaining 1 Mil), for a good veteran D-Man with two years left and a 2nd. Leafs get a guy who brings a unique element and can carry a third line or play in the top 6 for a reasonable cap hit (at 4.5 M)

LEAFS - COYOTES
Topi Niemela, Alex Kerfoot, Justin Holl & 1st
for
Jacob Chychrun

Coyotes get a couple contracts to get them to the cap floor that they can flip at the deadline for assets, Kerfoot is only owed 900K in real money. They also get a future top 4 D-Man that should be ready by the time they are hoping to compete and another 1st round pick. Leafs get a solid top 4 D-Man locked into a team friendly contract for the next few seasons.

LINES

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Jarnkrok - Tavares - Nylander
Engvall - - Kampf - - Anderson
Gaudette - - Douglas - - Kubel

OR

Anderson - Matthews - Marner
Bunting - - Tavares - - Nylander
Engvall - - Kampf - - Jarnkrok
Gaudette - - Douglas - - Kubel

AND

Rielly - Chychrun
Sandin - - Brodie
Giordano - Liljegren

 

[Fogelhund]

LEAFS - CANADIENS
Jake Muzzin & 2nd 2024
for
Josh Anderson (1 Mil Ret)

Habs move out an awful long term contract (albeit retaining 1 Mil), for a good veteran D-Man with two years left and a 2nd. Leafs get a guy who brings a unique element and can carry a third line or play in the top 6 for a reasonable cap hit (at 4.5 M)

LEAFS - COYOTES
Topi Niemela, Alex Kerfoot, Justin Holl & 1st
for
Jacob Chychrun

Coyotes get a couple contracts to get them to the cap floor that they can flip at the deadline for assets, Kerfoot is only owed 900K in real money. They also get a future top 4 D-Man that should be ready by the time they are hoping to compete and another 1st round pick. Leafs get a solid top 4 D-Man locked into a team friendly contract for the next few seasons.

LINES

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Jarnkrok - Tavares - Nylander
Engvall - - Kampf - - Anderson
Gaudette - - Douglas - - Kubel

OR

Anderson - Matthews - Marner
Bunting - - Tavares - - Nylander
Engvall - - Kampf - - Jarnkrok
Gaudette - - Douglas - - Kubel

AND

Rielly - Chychrun
Sandin - - Brodie
Giordano - Liljegren

Arizona is asking for a combo of 3 firsts or equivalent prospects. Your suggestion won't get the job done.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Curious why you view ERod as just a winger?


They also experimented with Rantanen at C last year.

He rarely takes draws and his best year was this year... and he still was only 47%.

He is not particularly great defensively, and doesn't really play in any way that really says he would be a good fit as a center (i.e. high end playmaker, strong vision/IQ, etc.) like even a Kerfoot would. He didn't really do that great in the years he played center.

He may be a temporary fill in, but if you are planning on him as a full time guy, especially on a good team or a high role, you are really desperate.

 

[andora]

Unless Newhook takes a massive leap forward, they have one of worst center lineups in the league after MacKinnon. Add in very questionable forward depth overall and a goalie question mark as large as ours... Colorado should not be happy staying put.

If they don't get at least one of those higher end UFAs, and arguably another guy too, then they should be first in line to pay our price for Kerfoot.

Maybe they can't mitigate their 2C problem, but they need to find at least one guy who can be a strong fit for their top 9 and possibly play center.

agreed - but they do have some options to try / and some time

i mean i am fairly confident they will make the playoffs - so use the time you have to try some things out.
if one of the ufas left comes in super cheap (in term) - add that too

Curious why you view ERod as just a winger?


They also experimented with Rantanen at C last year.

Rantanen as another option yes

so you run landeskog/mackinnon/nichushkin then newhook/rantanen/lekhonen or some combo of it.

 

[BayStBullies]

LEAFS - CANADIENS
Jake Muzzin & 2nd 2024
for
Josh Anderson (1 Mil Ret)

Habs move out an awful long term contract (albeit retaining 1 Mil), for a good veteran D-Man with two years left and a 2nd. Leafs get a guy who brings a unique element and can carry a third line or play in the top 6 for a reasonable cap hit (at 4.5 M)

LEAFS - COYOTES
Topi Niemela, Alex Kerfoot, Justin Holl & 1st
for
Jacob Chychrun

Coyotes get a couple contracts to get them to the cap floor that they can flip at the deadline for assets, Kerfoot is only owed 900K in real money. They also get a future top 4 D-Man that should be ready by the time they are hoping to compete and another 1st round pick. Leafs get a solid top 4 D-Man locked into a team friendly contract for the next few seasons.

LINES

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Jarnkrok - Tavares - Nylander
Engvall - - Kampf - - Anderson
Gaudette - - Douglas - - Kubel

OR

Anderson - Matthews - Marner
Bunting - - Tavares - - Nylander
Engvall - - Kampf - - Jarnkrok
Gaudette - - Douglas - - Kubel

AND

Rielly - Chychrun
Sandin - - Brodie
Giordano - Liljegren

Please don't post this on the main board. This is incredibly bad.

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

Where do Leafs fan think Jarnkrok plays in lineup?

Where do u want him to play?

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Where do Leafs fan think Jarnkrok plays in lineup?

Where do u want him to play?

Bottom 6 center, possibly splitting center duties with someone else like Kerfoot.

 

[Americanadian]

He rarely takes draws and his best year was this year... and he still was only 47%.

He is not particularly great defensively, and doesn't really play in any way that really says he would be a good fit as a center (i.e. high end playmaker, strong vision/IQ, etc.) like even a Kerfoot would. He didn't really do that great in the years he played center.

He may be a temporary fill in, but if you are planning on him as a full time guy, especially on a good team or a high role, you are really desperate.

I fundamentally disagree that 47% on FO makes you incapable of playing C. He was very good defensively last year according to all defensive metrics. The reason I think he would fit Colorado perfectly is he plays at a high tempo similar to the rest of their roster and he can be the retriever on a Lehkonen-Rodrigues-Rantanen 2nd line. I'm not saying he's the best 2C but I think he's the best 2C option remaining for Colorado. In a year or two Newhook can step into that role and ERod can step into the 3C role.

 

[andora]

I fundamentally disagree that 47% on FO makes you incapable of playing C. He was very good defensively last year according to all defensive metrics. The reason I think he would fit Colorado perfectly is he plays at a high tempo similar to the rest of their roster and he can be the retriever on a Lehkonen-Rodrigues-Rantanen 2nd line. I'm not saying he's the best 2C but I think he's the best 2C option remaining for Colorado. In a year or two Newhook can step into that role and ERod can step into the 3C role.

Newhook will likely get a look at center but he is just as likely to end up a winger

He has to pass the test this year 2 or 3 c open for him

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

I wouldn't call Motte and ZAR mediocre. They are tenacious forecheckers who bring physicality. They are perfect 4th liners. Simmonds and Clifford are pretty much done as players unless they are 13th forwards.
The 2nd line LW will likely come at the deadline

Much rather either than Gaudette.

 

[jaric1862]

Not sure why people are looking to add mediocre players to our bottom six like Motte and ZAR. We already did that by adding Aube-Kubel.

Engvall - Jarnkrok - Robertson
Gaudette - Kampf - Aube-Kubel

Aside from potentially replacing A-K with ZAR, I wouldn’t replace any of those players with either Motte or ZAR.

Not to mention we still have Clifford and Simmonds if we really need the heavy physical play from game to game.

The second line LW spot is still a major concern and it’s pretty disappointing Dubas hasn’t addressed it.

Why is Robertson playing on a checking line?

 

[Menzinger]

Not sure why people are looking to add mediocre players to our bottom six like Motte and ZAR. We already did that by adding Aube-Kubel.

Engvall - Jarnkrok - Robertson
Gaudette - Kampf - Aube-Kubel

Aside from potentially replacing A-K with ZAR, I wouldn’t replace any of those players with either Motte or ZAR.

Not to mention we still have Clifford and Simmonds if we really need the heavy physical play from game to game.

The second line LW spot is still a major concern and it’s pretty disappointing Dubas hasn’t addressed it.

ZAR is intriguing because his underlying defensive stats look fairly promising. He could be the Kampf of this offseason, which is why I'd be willing to take a gamble on him, especially if he signs cheap

 

[ULF_55]

Carolina Hurricanes Paul Stastny | TSN

The Carolina Hurricanes have signed centre Paul Stastny to a one-year, $1.5 million contract. The 36-year-old scored 21 goals and had 45 points in 71 games with the Winnipeg Jets last season.

www.tsn.ca

Stastny - Hurricanes

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Carolina Hurricanes Paul Stastny | TSN

The Carolina Hurricanes have signed centre Paul Stastny to a one-year, $1.5 million contract. The 36-year-old scored 21 goals and had 45 points in 71 games with the Winnipeg Jets last season.

www.tsn.ca

Stastny - Hurricanes

Solid signing. Carolina is going to be good again ( obviously)

 

[LeafEgo]

The Leafs D-corps is very strong as of right now. Replacing Muzzin with Sandin for a full season might be less playoff ready but it’s a better bet long term. Gio was phenomenal last year and he can play 2LD with any of the Leafs RD: Brodie, Liljegren, Holl.

If you are implying that getting Henrique over Kerfoot makes the offense worse than I disagree.

That really got tangled up. I was implying that Kerfoot is most likely to go to get under the cap, and that we don't have the money to add Henrique without taking from the D - in this case making us less playoff ready.

I dont know much about Henrique, perhaps he is better than Kerfoot, as a separate topic.