Trades and Free Agency - 2022 Off-season

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should be interesting!!!!



Would have made more sense if they would have kept Trotz

Not sure how they'll get more offense from this group .. 25th in GF since 2018, and they haven't added any offensive difference makers. Relying on aging second line players plus Barzal.

They were actually a strong team in the second half last season. That's why I wouldn't be shocked if they were at least a wild card team. But the coaching change is a question mark for me.
 
Well in particular palmieri bailey and a couple others fall off with hopefully bellows wahlstrom raty coming in

Or they have money for new free agents

Their flexibility is nicely off set
They don't have enough starpower to help those support players though. Unless the defense and goaltending have a ridiculous year, it's going to be rough for them.
 
They don't have enough starpower to help those support players though. Unless the defense and goaltending have a ridiculous year, it's going to be rough for them.
Possibly.. from memory they were i think almost even goals for and against.. with some odd situations for them last year could re focus and make it as simple as

If at least every forward can aim for 1 to 2 more goals than last season they are set up to grind every night

If anyone knows trotz system its lambert and how to tinker with it to try for more offense
 
But the second penalty never happens if the first call isn't made. Having said that, good teams overcome.


Let's say the vast majority of you on this board get their way and Dubas is let go. Honest question. Who may be available that would be an exciting replacement? Trotz could easily step in as coach, but the GM?

I do agree with that since it was only caused by a shorthanded forecheck
 
Possibly.. from memory they were i think almost even goals for and against.. with some odd situations for them last year could re focus and make it as simple as

If at least every forward can aim for 1 to 2 more goals than last season they are set up to grind every night

If anyone knows trotz system its lambert and how to tinker with it to try for more offense

If there's anything aging grinders are known for its scoring more goals as they get older.
 
Possibly.. from memory they were i think almost even goals for and against.. with some odd situations for them last year could re focus and make it as simple as

If at least every forward can aim for 1 to 2 more goals than last season they are set up to grind every night

If anyone knows trotz system its lambert and how to tinker with it to try for more offense
Firstly, you can't blame everything on odd situations.
2nd paragraph, counting on every forward to score more is a bad strategy when their grinders are aging.
3rd point, just because a person was an assistant doesn't mean he will be just as good systematically and improve weaknesses.

Yeah fair enough.. and possibly im being too oprimistic with them but i do think they are going to surprise some this year
They might but a lot of things would need to go right.
 
Yeah fair enough.. and possibly im being too oprimistic with them but i do think they are going to surprise some this year

A strong blue line and goaltending will keep them in games.

I agree they'll probably be closer to a playoff spot than some thing. They get overlooked because they had such an awful start to last season.
 
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Firstly, you can't blame everything on odd situations.

Blaming? I would say that several things outside the norm affected them negatively. Kinda like the once in a century global pandemic and our payroll

2nd paragraph, counting on every forward to score more is a bad strategy when their grinders are aging.

They have a couple of youngs trying to take the next step, barzal can be better and some coaching could be effective

3rd point, just because a person was an assistant doesn't mean he will be just as good systematically and improve weaknesses.

Didnt say that specifically i dont think, but he has been with trotz for years, is a smart guy and a good coach himself. Doesnt mean he cant either

They might but a lot of things would need to go right.

Or just go a bit better
 
Is Kessel retiring?

He had 50ish pts this year on a shitty Zona team

I think he can provide kerfoot level offense at minimum with JT and 88

I really hope a reunion is in the works with us and him

He also let's us go back to two PP units in case PP1 struggles ever or can be a Spezza like threat on PP2

I believe he's still intending on playing.

I'd love to see him back here but dont think either side has interest at this point
 
Blaming? I would say that several things outside the norm affected them negatively. Kinda like the once in a century global pandemic and our payroll



They have a couple of youngs trying to take the next step, barzal can be better and some coaching could be effective



Didnt say that specifically i dont think, but he has been with trotz for years, is a smart guy and a good coach himself. Doesnt mean he cant either



Or just go a bit better
Pandemic was there before last season too. Sure they were hit hard but they also seriously regressed.
Barzal can be better that should be a given. I'll give you that.
We don't know if he's a good coach. Like I said being with a good coach doesn't mean he will be good. Look at how the Babcock assistants are doing from his time in Detroit? He might be good but we don't know.
Bit better won't be enough to get them in contention.

I saw one about Patrick Kane where Dubas has inquired, and another tidbit about the negotiations with Sandin are still nowhere near close. That's about it from what I can see.
Link?
 
Just want the season to start at this point. Don't care about dubas or any of the coaches or management. If the team fails this year get rid of all of them.
Run it back again if they fail. Keep doing it until the world is completely finished. Fanny around with the bottom 6, fine. But keep running it back.

Would have made more sense if they would have kept Trotz

Not sure how they'll get more offense from this group .. 25th in GF since 2018, and they haven't added any offensive difference makers. Relying on aging second line players plus Barzal.

They were actually a strong team in the second half last season. That's why I wouldn't be shocked if they were at least a wild card team. But the coaching change is a question mark for me.
Yeah. They'll probably benefit from not going on a 20 game road trip or whatever it was to start the season.
 
To be fair his game isnt really points but they are paying for the potential

I mean pelech/pulock romanov/dobson aho/mayfield is a good mix .. with pelech being superb and dobson elevating very quickly
Something to be said about that school of Defense the Isles have going on. Avs did well picking up a graduate. Next one probably goes for a premium.
 
To be fair his game isnt really points but they are paying for the potential

I mean pelech/pulock romanov/dobson aho/mayfield is a good mix .. with pelech being superb and dobson elevating very quickly

Aho is not a great option for their bottom pairing. He is a passable #7, but nothing more.
 
I've been proposing Henrique for Muzzin all off-season. The contracts basically offset but the Leafs get a top 6 C/W while Anaheim gets a top 4 LD to play with Drysdale or Helleson. The Leafs then get to insert Sandin. Henrique for Muzzin+Kerfoot makes sense too where Kerfoot takes Henrique's spot in the lineup.
That would make our D less playoff prepared. Murray is sweating enough I'm sure.

Unless you include moving a core player our offence is 34, 16, 88, 91. Thats it, next up is Engvall at 2.2M after Kerf goes to make cap.
 
There's a also a rumor going on that we (dubas) has already discussed with the blackhawks and the possibility of trading for patrick kane. So sorry if this has already been discussed here, apparentelily the edmonton trade rumor is not true, but we would be getting kane instead of the oilers. Well, its a tough world out there sire.
 
Im not quite sure what you mean here. Are you attributing the GWG in Game 7 v. MTL and Game 6 v. TB to Mitch misplays? Or the Game 6 goals in each series then the game 7 is each series?
Leafs were up 3-2 in both series. Mitch made bonehead plays that lead to goals in both game six games, while not contributing to the score sheet in either game. In game 7 vs Tampa, he recorded 0 shots.

There should be no excuse for an 11 million dollar player, playing with the best player in the game - getting 0 shots in 24 minutes of ice time - in the most important game of the entire season. There should be no excuse for an 11 million dollar player being as bad as he has in the most important games of the last 3 playoff series.

The difference wasn't goalies....Campbell played above his contract.
 
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Leafs were up 3-2 in both series. Mitch made bonehead plays that lead to goals in both game six games, while not contributing to the score sheet in either game. In game 7 vs Tampa, he recorded 0 shots.

There should be no excuse for an 11 million dollar player, playing with the best player in the game - getting 0 shots in 24 minutes of ice time - in the most important game of the entire season. There should be no excuse for an 11 million dollar player being as bad as he has in the most important games of the last 3 playoff series.
Gotcha, wasnt sure what you meant with the Game 6 comment since he wasnt on for the MTL winner
 
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I saw one about Patrick Kane where Dubas has inquired, and another tidbit about the negotiations with Sandin are still nowhere near close. That's about it from what I can see.
Meh, the Patrick Kane one is a rumor mill site that post stuff to gain clicks on their site. No insider has any information on Kane, highly doubt "Leafs Daily News" is the one to pick up Toronto has called about Kane, and any conversation starts with a first and top prospect and salary being moved out for a top winger. Steep price to pay.
 
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Leafs were up 3-2 in both series. Mitch made bonehead plays that lead to goals in both game six games, while not contributing to the score sheet in either game. In game 7 vs Tampa, he recorded 0 shots.

There should be no excuse for an 11 million dollar player, playing with the best player in the game - getting 0 shots in 24 minutes of ice time - in the most important game of the entire season. There should be no excuse for an 11 million dollar player being as bad as he has in the most important games of the last 3 playoff series.

The difference wasn't goalies....Campbell played above his contract.
Last sentence is an interesting way to put it..
 
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There's a also a rumor going on that we (dubas) has already discussed with the blackhawks and the possibility of trading for patrick kane. So sorry if this has already been discussed here, apparentelily the edmonton trade rumor is not true, but we would be getting kane instead of the oilers. Well, its a tough world out there sire.

I'm reading this and thinking what dirty dog has kidnapped Coachcorner, until the very end when 'sire' comes through...phew.
 
Last sentence is an interesting way to put it..


According to Sportsnet of Matthews 60 goals.. 11 million dollar Mitch marner directly contributed to 23, while $737,000 Bunting directly contributed to 19 (while playing less minutes with Matthews). Read the article and they discuss how Matthews scored a significant amount of garbage goals in front of the net. Watch these playoffs and Matthews was playing the same way, creating goals and assists physically, going to tough areas and using his body. Yes, Marner had 8 points in 7 games but Watch all 7 points and you will see that his linemates created space for him to make easier plays...sh%^ both Marners goals, the goalie guessed where he was shooting because Leafs were crashing the crease (thanks Kerfoot, Bunting, Matthews). One of those goals... he fanned completely on his intended shot and it slid slowly past the goalie.

In reviewing each of those 60 goals, we noted which players directly contributed to the scoring plays that resulted in a goal from Matthews — that went past just registering an assist. It also meant, say, throwing the body behind the net to create a turnover that put the puck on No. 34’s stick, or being part of a give-and-go to enter the zone, which sprung a Matthews rush to the net.

Widening the lens out a bit past assist-getters to those who directly, meaningfully contributed to Matthews’ scoring plays in all possible ways, here’s how the list of his most important running mates broke down:

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Unsurprisingly, Mitch Marner led the way, directly factoring in on 23 of those goals (38 per cent). Linemate Michael Bunting was second, factoring in on 19 of them (32 per cent) — more impressive than it first seems, considering it took some time this season for the coaching staff to move Bunting onto that top line.
 


According to Sportsnet of Matthews 60 goals.. 11 million dollar Mitch marner directly contributed to 23, while $737,000 Bunting directly contributed to 19 (while playing less minutes with Matthews). Read the article and they discuss how Matthews scored a significant amount of garbage goals in front of the net. Watch these playoffs and Matthews was playing the same way, creating goals and assists physically, going to tough areas and using his body. Yes, Marner had 8 points in 7 games but Watch all 7 points and you will see that his linemates created space for him to make easier plays...sh%^ both Marners goals, the goalie guessed where he was shooting because Leafs were crashing the crease (thanks Kerfoot, Bunting, Matthews). One of those goals... he fanned completely on his intended shot and it slid slowly past the goalie.

In reviewing each of those 60 goals, we noted which players directly contributed to the scoring plays that resulted in a goal from Matthews — that went past just registering an assist. It also meant, say, throwing the body behind the net to create a turnover that put the puck on No. 34’s stick, or being part of a give-and-go to enter the zone, which sprung a Matthews rush to the net.

Widening the lens out a bit past assist-getters to those who directly, meaningfully contributed to Matthews’ scoring plays in all possible ways, here’s how the list of his most important running mates broke down:

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Unsurprisingly, Mitch Marner led the way, directly factoring in on 23 of those goals (38 per cent). Linemate Michael Bunting was second, factoring in on 19 of them (32 per cent) — more impressive than it first seems, considering it took some time this season for the coaching staff to move Bunting onto that top line.
Awesome stuff appreciated
 
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