Trades and Free Agency - 2022 Off-season

[Ziggdiezan]

It is pragmatic with Amirov to simply forget about him .. with his health issue and life being more important you dont even include him in projections until he makes you. Then god willing it is a bonus

Knies should not have any pressure on him this year to make an impact the last few games let alone playoffs. If he plays himself into it then fine.. i just see several commenta about him and playoffs

robertson could be the key in implementing three offensive lines and then a 4th checking line

Potentially next year

bunting matthews marner
Robertson nylander x
Knies tavares x

Knies is definitely the big wild card in all this i feel like. I have no idea what his impact will be this year but I feel like it won't be conclusive enough to rule out resigning Bunting.

Hopefully Robertson built up some muscle and stuff so he isn't being pushed off his skates every shift. Agreed, we need a big year from him if we are to have any scoring depth on the left side.

 

[Menzinger]

Crouse is fine as a player, but that contract suffers from "power forward" inflation too much. I'm not sure they'll get that level of on ice impact needed to justify a higher aav like that. With that said, it can be tough keeping guys in that market so sometimes you've probably got to overpay

Bergeron for $2.5M is gross lol

And now Krejci for $1M

Boston essentially aiming for one last kick at the can with its elder core. Id expect they will be big buyers at the tdl

 

[andora]

How hilarious would a puttsburgh boston ECF be

No slow mo needed

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Boston essentially aiming for one last kick at the can with its elder core. Id expect they will be big buyers at the tdl

Boston probably does not care about dead money next year. They have a bunch of free money open, and even if they need to re-sign Pastrnak and Swayman, it should not be hard to find better and cheaper options than Foligno and Smith.

The difficult part will always be finding a pair of top 6 centers.

 

[notdoneyet]

I'd much rather win the Cup, or have some Stanley Cup final appearances, or a handful of Conference final appearances with some dubious contracts on the team, as opposed to continually being bounced as soon as the playoffs begin, all the while looking nice and neat on paper.

Every team that goes deep each year seem to have some dodgy contracts in their bottom 6/bottom 4, but I bet they don't care.

I think we've been too concerned about paper and not what actually goes on, on the ice for a while now.

But your forgetting how much respect we are now getting in the handshake line when we lose another first round exit

It will be amazing to read how great it will be when we win a round

We should ne ver be satisfied with anything less than playing in the cup final.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Yikes that Crouse deal..

 

[BertCorbeau]

Boston probably does not care about dead money next year. They have a bunch of free money open, and even if they need to re-sign Pastrnak and Swayman, it should not be hard to find better and cheaper options than Foligno and Smith.

The difficult part will always be finding a pair of top 6 centers.

Wow just saw Boston has 5 forwards signed past next season.

7 pending UFA’s, 1 RFA

 

[Rude Dog]

Will just leave this here....

 

[ULF_55]

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I'll just leave this here: Estimated Career Earnings

: $93,824,048

 

[LeafChief]

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Just to clarify, you think a 37 year old doing this at the end of his career is comparable to 23-25 year old superstars cashing in?

I too would love to have lower cap hits on our star players, no doubt. But if you think you did something here, you really didn't. What you've proven is that you have no idea about how anything works. In that case, congratulations to you.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Hard to not be jealous of the Bruins.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Just to clarify, you think a 37 year old doing this at the end of his career is comparable to 23-25 year old superstars cashing in?

I too would love to have lower cap hits on our star players, no doubt. But if you think you did something here, you really didn't. What you've proven is that you have no idea about how anything works. In that case, congratulations to you.

This is the equivalence of what Spezza and Gio did here, except Bergeron did not take nearly as little.

Of course, he is also better, but we have benefitted from this as much as Boston has.

 

[LeafChief]

This is the equivalence of what Spezza and Gio did here, except Bergeron did not take nearly as little.

Of course, he is also better, but we have benefitted from this as much as Boston has.

Yup. I actually laughed out loud at the "I'll just leave this here". Monumentally dumb.

 

[stickty111]

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Not even close to being the same. If anything we have already been through this with Gio and Spezza.

 

[al secord]

Lengths some will go.

 

[Voodoo Child]

Let’s just solidify that top four in the Atlantic. They have injuries but I don’t see 40-point jumps from Ottawa, Buffalo or Detroit.

Kick the can down the road another year for Boston.

 

[notdoneyet]

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What an unrealistic example. I’ll bet anyone that all of Matthews marner and Tavares who could somehow know that covid was systematically going to devastate the cap increases ALL would have taken some sort of discount to help the team achieve success. Most posters on here know that I am vocal on my thoughts of Dubas and I am critical of his team building but I give him the benefit of the doubt because no one and absolutely no one knew the future of the cap and the role covid played.

 

[BertCorbeau]

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Spezza and Gio have done the same thing for the Leafs

 

[Fogelhund]

Strange that it walks him straight to UFA though. Boston is over the cap by $2.2 according to cap friendly, but that's with a 24 man roster. But, both Marchand and McAvoy are expected to be out until December, from their surgeries. Mike Reilly will also be out until November. So they'll have all kinds of LTIR available for them to be compliant.

I read an unconfirmed rumour that Bergeron and Krejci's performance bonuses are based upon playing more than 10 games. It all but makes it a certainly that they'll hit such bonuses, but that cap amount will be kicked until next year, when clearly they don't care.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

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Strange that it walks him straight to UFA though. Boston is over the cap by $2.2 according to cap friendly, but that's with a 24 man roster. But, both Marchand and McAvoy are expected to be out until December, from their surgeries. Mike Reilly will also be out until November. So they'll have all kinds of LTIR available for them to be compliant.

I read an unconfirmed rumour that Bergeron and Krejci's performance bonuses are based upon playing more than 10 games. It all but makes it a certainly that they'll hit such bonuses, but that cap amount will be kicked until next year, when clearly they don't care.

They only gave up Haula, who was a pending UFA himself, so I doubt they really care.

Zacha would be an intriguing target for us next year, but the money may be a little bit too high.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

LEAFS - DUCKS
Jake Muzzin & Kyle Clifford
for
Future Considerations

LEAFS - PREDATORS
Yakov Trenin & Tanner Jeannot
for
Nick Robertson, Alex Kerfoot & 1st

LEAFS - STARS
Justin Holl & 3rd
for
Jani Hakanpaa

SIGN
ZAR - 1.5 x 2
Sandin - 2.4 x 3

BUNTING - MATTHEWS - MARNER
ENGVALL - TAVARES - NYLANDER
JEANNOT - TRENIN - JARNKROK
ZAR - - - - - KAMPF - - - - - KUBEL

RIELLY - BRODIE
GIO - LILJEGREN
SANDIN - HAK

 

[Rude Dog]

Yup. I actually laughed out loud at the "I'll just leave this here". Monumentally dumb.

LOL at some of the responses. Wasn't meant to be a stick your finger in an outlet statement. And yes, I am fully aware of the Gio, Spezza discounts, not to mention Bunting. But I was referring more to this part of the quote. And I couldn't agree more.

I recently read the Mark Messier autobiography. There was a section in it that really stood out to me. I am loosely paraphrasing, but he talked about how amazed he was after his upstart Oilers lost in the Stanley Cup finals to the now 4 time winning Islanders. He walked by their dressing room after the final game expecting to hear and see them wildly celebrating. But after 4 championships he was shocked to see them all in their stalls, happy, holding a beer. but covered in ice packs. Every one of them did their part. It was at that moment he understood what it takes to be a champion.

Impossible to know whether demanding top dollar was the difference between winning a game 7 or not. But at the end of the day it certainly didn't help. I am just hoping our top guys will one day be able to look back and cherish their "great" career, while still wearing a Leaf jersey.

 

[Fogelhund]

LEAFS - DUCKS
Jake Muzzin & Kyle Clifford
for
Future Considerations

LEAFS - PREDATORS
Yakov Trenin & Tanner Jeannot
for
Nick Robertson, Alex Kerfoot & 1st

LEAFS - STARS
Justin Holl & 3rd
for
Jani Hakanpaa

SIGN
ZAR - 1.5 x 2
Sandin - 2.4 x 3

BUNTING - MATTHEWS - MARNER
ENGVALL - TAVARES - NYLANDER
JEANNOT - TRENIN - JARNKROK
ZAR - - - - - KAMPF - - - - - KUBEL

RIELLY - BRODIE
GIO - LILJEGREN
SANDIN - HAK

These always crack me up.

So, you pencil in Trenin as our 3C.... a guy who but has a collective 51 faceoffs in 3 years of NHL play.... so he isn't really a C, and on top of that, has less points in 146 games, than Kerfoot had last year. Perhaps you meant Sissons? Weird trade otherwise, and while I see the attraction in Jeannot.... it's a bad trade if you really meant Trenin, who isn't a C at all.

Star would NEVER do that trade, it's terrible for them.

Overall, these just make us worse, which is the norm.

 

[Martin Skoula]

LOL at some of the responses. Wasn't meant to be a stick your finger in an outlet statement. And yes, I am fully aware of the Gio, Spezza discounts, not to mention Bunting. But I was referring more to this part of the quote. And I couldn't agree more.

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I recently read the Mark Messier autobiography. There was a section in it that really stood out to me. I am loosely paraphrasing, but he talked about how amazed he was after his upstart Oilers lost in the Stanley Cup finals to the now 4 time winning Islanders. He walked by their dressing room after the final game expecting to hear and see them wildly celebrating. But after 4 championships he was shocked to see them all in their stalls, happy, holding a beer. but covered in ice packs. Every one of them did their part. It was at that moment he understood what it takes to be a champion.

Impossible to know whether demanding top dollar was the difference between winning a game 7 or not. But at the end of the day it certainly didn't help. I am just hoping our top guys will one day be able to look back and cherish their "great" career, while still wearing a Leaf jersey.

Maybe if Bergeron took a 2.5 mil deal last time, Boston would have two cups instead of losing to St Louis. Seems like Bergeron's greed robbed them of being in dynasty talks.

 

[andora]

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Strange that it walks him straight to UFA though. Boston is over the cap by $2.2 according to cap friendly, but that's with a 24 man roster. But, both Marchand and McAvoy are expected to be out until December, from their surgeries. Mike Reilly will also be out until November. So they'll have all kinds of LTIR available for them to be compliant.

I read an unconfirmed rumour that Bergeron and Krejci's performance bonuses are based upon playing more than 10 games. It all but makes it a certainly that they'll hit such bonuses, but that cap amount will be kicked until next year, when clearly they don't care.

they should do the work and try and get under the cap without using LTIR - if this is bergy/krejci last kick at the can here might as well try and accrue as much space as you can to add depth pieces, especially with the age of the team