Trades and Free Agency - 2022-23 Season Edition

[TMLAM34]

I always have a bit of a soft spot for him. As someone who watches a decent amount of Wild games every season is say he will make some big hits on occasion, though can also be very dumb sometimes when it comes to decision making.

is be potentially interested in him, but not sure I'd be willing to pay a king's ransom for

Not to mention he’s an upcoming UFA and I doubt he’d take less than his current AAV which is already an overpay.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I still think Gavrikov would be the ideal target. Hes physical, good outlet pass, defensively very good and has good speed. He would anchor our second pair with Liljegren. Most Columbus fans I've spoken to are fine with a 1st + 3rd for him which is reasonable.

 

[SprDaVE]

Unless this team can pull itself out of the crapper I wouldn't waste good assets on it

I'd rather sell the pending UFA'S at the TDL, see if we can move Muzzin and Murray in the off-season if they are permanent LTIR candidates and retool for next season

If the team gets back to their winning ways, there's no way they sell anything and we all know it. They'll probably take the next 6-8 weeks to see how to proceed.

Of course if they continue their mediocrity/bad ways, there's going to be a lot more than just selling UFA's.

 

[Marmoset]

not sure where to post this but I'll post it here, one thing I always read in the forum is that of the core 4 Tavares is the one we should move, and I think that's furthest from the truth and here's why.

He's a Toronto boy grew up here and so did his wife, his family and friends are also here. there is a very good chance that once his current deal is up he will not be willing to go play elsewhere similar to Spezza and Giordano. and therefore we could be looking at another guy willing to take discounts to be here. he already proven this to be the case. rumor has it San Jose offered 13 million per 91 mill over 7 years, and he took 2 million less to be here, now 11 million is not a discount for the caliber of player but it was a discount on the open Market, also the majority of players who sign big UFA contracts don't live up to them, and especially in the final years is usually a huge anchor. to be still playing at a PPG level today is actually very successful. not saying he's not overpaid.

however in the future beyond his current contract there is potential for Tavares to finish his career in Toronto on very team friendly deals, we've seen other players do it. and I believe it's a very real possibility with Tavares and therefore going forward in order to extend our cup window Tavares could be key piece.

Interesting post. I like the thought process even if I'm not sure how much I can agree with it.

I've always looked as it as Tavares is the one we should want to move, but also the one who would be hardest to move because of contract, age, NMC, etc. Nylander always seemed like the most likely to move.

The issue I see with your thought process is that Tavares might take less money, but might also be the "worst" player of the group by that point in time. Obviously we don't know what his level will be at that point but I'd bet on him having a significant drop-off before the other, younger three players.

Of course, so much is in flux right now, who knows where anything is going with this team.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

I still think Gavrikov would be the ideal target. Hes physical, good outlet pass, defensively very good and has good speed. He would anchor our second pair with Liljegren. Most Columbus fans I've spoken to are fine with a 1st + 3rd for him which is reasonable.

Too much for Gavrikov. He's physical but he gets caved in in his D-zone usage and he's been getting progressively worse. you'd be much better off just playing the guys we have now.

 

[WTFMAN99]

If it went really bad and you were liquidating UFAs, you could recoup a lot of picks fast.

I'd still rather re-sign Kampf than sell him off just because of how little we have coming at at centre.

 

[stickty111]

Unless this team can pull itself out of the crapper I wouldn't waste good assets on it

I'd rather sell the pending UFA'S at the TDL, see if we can move Muzzin and Murray in the off-season if they are permanent LTIR candidates and retool for next season

There is no chance they are selling. There will be either be bigger changes or they will add

 

[SprDaVE]

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If it went really bad and you were liquidating UFAs, you could recoup a lot of picks fast.

I'd still rather re-sign Kampf than sell him off just because of how little we have coming at at centre.

Most of these are fine other than Bunting. His style will be in high demand. He's dirt cheap as well, so his price will be very high for what he can provide. I wouldn't sell less than a 1st round pick and another pick/prospect. I would say Holl is also under valued here because of his cap hit, position and role but it's not that far off. I would say a 3rd is fair.

The rest seems fine.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Most of these are fine other than Bunting. His style will be in high demand. He's dirt cheap as well, so his price will be very high for what he can provide. I wouldn't sell less than a 1st round pick and another pick/prospect. I would say Holl is also under valued here because of his cap hit, position and role but it's not that far off. I would say a 3rd is fair.

The rest seems fine.

If Bunting production improves, I think there is a chance the value is there. He's on pace for less than last season.

Holl I don't even know, sometimes I think a 6th is fine lol.

This is all great currency though for the off-season to either bolster to the prospect pool or use for tangible NHL assets. A lot of this is going to hinge on Matthews.

 

[-DeMo-]

Interesting post. I like the thought process even if I'm not sure how much I can agree with it.

I've always looked as it as Tavares is the one we should want to move, but also the one who would be hardest to move because of contract, age, NMC, etc. Nylander always seemed like the most likely to move.

The issue I see with your thought process is that Tavares might take less money, but might also be the "worst" player of the group by that point in time. Obviously we don't know what his level will be at that point but I'd bet on him having a significant drop-off before the other, younger three players.

Of course, so much is in flux right now, who knows where anything is going with this team.

yea I don't expect him to be a PPG player beyond his current contract but what I'm saying is as he regresses I think because of his desire to stay in Toronto his salary would always reflect that so like once he becomes a 2nd liner maybe he would take 3rd liner money and when he becomes a 3rd line talent he will be paid like a 4th liner etc. until he retires. and thus as he regresses with age he will always still be a positive because his salary will reflect that. therefore if we get 3-4 years beyond his current deal before he retires those 3-4 years would be at bargain prices for the player he would be at those points.

 

[SprDaVE]

If Bunting production improves, I think there is a chance the value is there. He's on pace for less than last season.

Holl I don't even know, sometimes I think a 6th is fine lol.

This is all great currency though for the off-season to either bolster to the prospect pool or use for tangible NHL assets. A lot of this is going to hinge on Matthews.

He's still on pace for 41 points. For someone making under 1M, what he did last season and the kind of game he plays, that will be very valuable and something in demand.

Either way, seems very unlikely we get to that point... but I don't think the Leafs will have issues gaining a lot of top 60 picks if we ever get there.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Krejic at 1 million and Bergeron at 2.5 mil both have won multiple cups so they are chasing a ring but they took huge discounts to make their team better and give cap space back.

Krejci makes 3m and Bergeron makes 5m.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Krejci makes 3m and Bergeron makes 5m.

Boston is kinda deferring salary to next year's cap where they either think they will not have as good of a chance to win or the deferral can offset by cap rising.

 

[Dreakmur]

Krejci makes 3m and Bergeron makes 5m.

They have some bonus incentives, but their cap hits are 1.0 and 2.5.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Boston is kinda deferring salary to next year's cap where they either think they will not have as good of a chance to win or the deferral can offset by cap rising.

Yes, they're old so Boston is able to use a cap loophole to split part of the cap hits to next year, but they're still making 3m and 5m by playing this year.

 

[ryno23]

Yes, they're old so Boston is able to use a cap loophole to split part of the cap hits to next year, but they're still making 3m and 5m by playing this year.

but the cap number is what's important. They are only making 3.5 between which is huge for your top 2 C's

 

[Dekes For Days]

but the cap number is what's important.

Well, no, you were suggesting that they took massive discounts. They didn't. They just took part of their contracts in easily hittable performance bonuses so that Boston could defer portions of the cap hits to next year. Boston will still get 3m and 5m hits against their cap; just spread over 2 years.

 

[WTFMAN99]

So I think generally teams aren't lining up to help you when you're sputtering along...but other teams might not be so happy with their performance to date, St.Louis and Vancouver.

We need to reduce salary a bit anyway, what do you guys think about Pearson and Schenn for Kerfoot and Holl? I don't think Kerfoot has worked as a 3C here, maybe he works there or plays LW for one of their centres.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

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If it went really bad and you were liquidating UFAs, you could recoup a lot of picks fast.

I'd still rather re-sign Kampf than sell him off just because of how little we have coming at at centre.

I agree about Kampf, I want him to be a long term Leaf.

He belongs on the 3rd line. Give him a nice 3m/yr long term deal and that position is taken care of.

 

[TMLAM34]

I agree about Kampf, I want him to be a long term Leaf.

He belongs on the 3rd line. Give him a nice 3m/yr long term deal and that position is taken care of.

IMO, 3 million is a little too rich for Kampf. I think 2.25 per year is something a little more reasonable.

 

[Dreakmur]

So I think generally teams aren't lining up to help you when you're sputtering along...but other teams might not be so happy with their performance to date, St.Louis and Vancouver.

We need to reduce salary a bit anyway, what do you guys think about Pearson and Schenn for Kerfoot and Holl? I don't think Kerfoot has worked as a 3C here, maybe he works there or plays LW for one of their centres.

Kerfoot and Holl to St. Louis for Barbashev and Bortuzzo

 

[Ben Grimm]

Will The Struggling Toronto Maple Leafs Test The Trade Market?

The discomfort in Toronto with a 4-4-2 start could lead to kicking tires on some trades to help the team win a playoff round.

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[WTFMAN99]

Kerfoot and Holl to St. Louis for Barbashev and Bortuzzo

That works too.

 

[andora]

Vancouver would likely do that to dump pearsons contract

St louis one i love both guys and would instatrade holl kerfoot for them

 

[Kiwi]

There is no chance they are selling. There will be either be bigger changes or they will add

They continue to play like this they won't be in any position to add because they will be out of it by the TDL

If the team gets back to their winning ways, there's no way they sell anything and we all know it. They'll probably take the next 6-8 weeks to see how to proceed.

Of course if they continue their mediocrity/bad ways, there's going to be a lot more than just selling UFA's.

That's a big if Dave, this team has been brutal against some extremely piss poor teams

The defense and bottom 6 look baaad, Liljegren will help but we're asking a lot of him to fix this