Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[Dion TheFluff]

still think he has $4.4 mil in LTIR space which is huge!! Potentially only have 2 years left with this core, may as well go all in.

 

[MCR74]

How do the Oilers make the Karlsson move work?

We're talking $39mm in real money for the rest of his contract.

They expect San Jose to pay $19.5mm for what in return?

I can't see the Sharks retaining as much as Oilers fans hope for. Edmonton lands Karlsson, and they can expect some depth pieces out the door too.

I want this to happen just to see Karlsson and Nurse together.

 

[hamzarocks]

What are people's thoughts on

JVR@75 to serve as a top 6 scoring winger option?

I'd do kokkonen or hironen + 3rd + 4th to team retaining the extra 25

Let's you run

Bunting - Matthews - Nylander

JVR - JT - Marner

Kerfoot - RoR - Jarnkrok

Acciari - Holmberg - Engvall

 

[SprDaVE]

still think he has $4.4 mil in LTIR space which is huge!! Potentially only have 2 years left with this core, may as well go all in.

Murray isn't staying on LTIR for the season. He was on the ice yesterday.

 

[Americanadian]

Murray isn't staying on LTIR for the season.

The Leafs should have ~1.5M in space once Murray returns, assuming they demote Benn. Obviously this space increases if they send someone out.

 

[crump]

Does this make Kerfoot even more disposable?

Ulf, that’s like asking if water could be more wet.

 

[SprDaVE]

The Leafs should have ~1.5M in space once Murray returns, assuming they demote Benn. Obviously this space increases if they send someone out.

Sounds about right. I'm not saying they don't have room to make a trade and move salary needed, but the LTIR space right now is deceiving because of Murray.

Murray is made of glass clearly so who knows though. But for now, seems like he's on pace to be back soonish.

 

[justashadowof]

Still love the idea of Ryan O'Reilly as an addition.

Turns out this guy was on to something.

 

[BertCorbeau]

For all the talk of the Leafs making a big move and ROR on the block, this trade quietly came to fruition without a ton of buzz

 

[SprDaVE]

For all the talk of the Leafs making a big move and ROR on the block, this trade quietly came to fruition without a ton of buzz

A few days ago Dubas said they weren't interested in trading top picks/prospects for rentals. It was definitely a bit of a curve ball. It fits exactly what they needed though so it's not that surprising. Seravalli seemed a little upset that Dubas lied.

 

[SprDaVE]

 

[dubplatepressure]

Turns out this guy was on to something.

you and countless others around here who also shared an opinion about the potential value of ROR on this team. Congrats.

 

[ACC1224]

Turns out this guy was on to something.

you and thousands of others.

 

[I am Canadian]

I wonder what ROR commands on open market next off season. I would like to see him back as the 3C. Something like this would be good.

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I'd try to squeeze Bunting for more and keep Kampf.

I’m back on the go all in for Chychrun bandwagon. It appears the future is out the window with this trade.

24 1st, Sandin, Minten, Kerfoot for Chychrun

How is the future out the window? Leafs have a ton of prospects coming in over the next few years.

 

[I am Canadian]

What are people's thoughts on

JVR@75 to serve as a top 6 scoring winger option?

I'd do kokkonen or hironen + 3rd + 4th to team retaining the extra 25

Let's you run

Bunting - Matthews - Nylander

JVR - JT - Marner

Kerfoot - RoR - Jarnkrok

Acciari - Holmberg - Engvall

JVR would have to be a 4th line option as PP specialist. Would be terrible 5on5

 

[Fogelhund]

A few days ago Dubas said they weren't interested in trading top picks/prospects for rentals. It was definitely a bit of a curve ball. It fits exactly what they needed though so it's not that surprising. Seravalli seemed a little upset that Dubas lied.

It’s altogether possible extensions have been talked about, and this isn’t rental. Or it could be a rental. Too soon to tell.

 

[dubplatepressure]

It’s altogether possible extensions have been talked about, and this isn’t rental. Or it could be a rental. Too soon to tell.

not impossible by any means.

 

[Fogelhund]

What are people's thoughts on

JVR@75 to serve as a top 6 scoring winger option?

I'd do kokkonen or hironen + 3rd + 4th to team retaining the extra 25

Let's you run

Bunting - Matthews - Nylander

JVR - JT - Marner

Kerfoot - RoR - Jarnkrok

Acciari - Holmberg - Engvall

JvR isn’t very good 5v5 defensively, though he can still put up points. He can’t be sheltered on the 4th line, as that line has a role with us. We also don’t need a PP specialist. I just don’t see a spot for him.

The moves we’ve made have been to improve the team, but both RoR and Acciari are guys who are good defensively. Short of a Kane, I don’t see us bringing in someone who isn’t also good defensively. I don’t think we have Meier assets left anyway, but at least he’s ok defensively. Same with a Comtois, Crouse, Ekholm, and Chychrun is at least ok. ( I’m not sure we have Chychrun assets left either)

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

I’m back on the go all in for Chychrun bandwagon. It appears the future is out the window with this trade.

24 1st, Sandin, Minten, Kerfoot for Chychrun

Is Chychrun Chris Pronger now? No thank you if that is the price.

 

[TMLeafer]

I guess I'll put it here rather than derail the ROR trade thread, but in regards to the Foligno trade, part of me is convinced (without any proof) that the 2 week quarantine and all the procedure around it prevented a timely and complete physical/evaluation of Foligno. He was damaged goods and turned out to be a total bust. Even if this wasn't a factor, tough to imagine having so much bad luck and getting screwed like that again. Then again, it's the Leafs

 

[Menzinger]

Leafs potentially wouldn't even need him at 50% if they moved out something small in terms of salary

A B prospect likely has the same value as a 2nd

 

[613Leafer]

It’s altogether possible extensions have been talked about, and this isn’t rental. Or it could be a rental. Too soon to tell.

This to me suggests a pretty strong willingness to re-sign here. Apparently his wife is from Toronto.

 

[Dekes For Days]

I guess I'll put it here rather than derail the ROR trade thread, but in regards to the Foligno trade, part of me is convinced (without any proof) that the 2 week quarantine and all the procedure around it prevented a timely and complete physical/evaluation of Foligno. He was damaged goods and turned out to be a total bust.

Foligno was healthy when he came to the Leafs. He was PPG through his first 4 games with us, and then suffered an injury on May 3rd, that was entirely new, and according to Foligno's own words, was debilitating and forced him to completely change how he played.

 

[kb]

Leafs potentially wouldn't even need him at 50% if they moved out something small in terms of salary

A B prospect likely has the same value as a 2nd

It's the next 2 seasons that the retention would really be needed.....and the only reason for all the cap space now is because Murray is on LTIR until Feb 28.

$4.7 million is all gone once Murray returns.

 

[GoLeafsGo96]

Before this move - as much as he frustrates people Kerfoot wasn't really expendable. They were an injury to Matthews/Tavares away from David Kampf in the top six if they moved off of Kerfoot without another center coming back.

Now that they have ROR that risk is mitigated well. Its a tricky move because it would take a couple moves (either dealing Kerfoot separately or the team acquiring Kerfoot flipping him), but I wouldn't mind them going after a pure winger - better fit that can jump between L2/L3 -- thinking Niederreiter or Garland (with some retention).