Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[SprDaVE]

rumblings of Weegar being available

Sometimes long-term contracts aren't really the play.

 

[McSnypsky]

What are the chances Dubas get's an LTIR guy like Nyquist just for the playoffs?

 

[kb]

That's a giant, who the heck knows... nobody knows. Chances are no though... who was the last College forward, who made an immediate impact, joining his team late in the season?

Matthew Beniers?

 

[Cleetus]

dang was hoping to see a new "confirmed with link" lol oh well still a few weeks!....

 

[Americanadian]

Allison might be an interesting addition to a trade, but he's not a top six, and his scoring rates aren't going to increase, with more ice time.

Did you mean to say his rates will decrease with more ice time? If they stay the same that’s perfectly fine. He’s played the majority of his minutes with Hayes and Laughton - I’d assume he can maintain his scoring rate with Tavares and one of Marner/Nylander.

 

[LeafSteel]

rumblings of Weegar being available

This is a very odd name to see out there, considering he just signed a long-term deal and the position Calgary is in.

I’ve long clamoured for Weegar but that contract $6.25m for the next 8 years until he’s 37……. Woof.

 

[ACC1224]

This is a very odd name to see out there, considering he just signed a long-term deal and the position Calgary is in.

I’ve long clamoured for Weegar but that contract $6.25m for the next 8 years until he’s 37……. Woof.

It's too bad Seattle is hanging around, Soucy would be a great add.

 

[Buds17]

rumblings of Weegar being available

That'd be a high risk (Calgary Weegar), high reward (Florida Weegar) proposition for any team interested. Obvious aside that the new contract has yet to kick in, it still seems strange that they'd be willing to sever ties this quickly.

 

[thusk]

People are looking for mid thirties LW solutions? That score 30 points a season? With injury histories?

I've missed that, can you point out who people are talking about?

And what do you think a young proven player in 20s with a proven production ( because its not the time for try out) and with a contract leafs can fit in will cost... exemple crouse , you can start with 2 1st pick

If you dont want to pay as high, it would player like foligno ( or bertuzzi with higher inuhy history) or big guest like comtois whos probably fighting for a roster spot... thats the reality.

 

[Judas Tavares]

It's too bad Seattle is hanging around, Soucy would be a great add.

Interesting you bring him up. I am listening to the Mirtle and Siegel podcast and they had Elliotte on as a guest. He mentioned Soucy would be a nice fit for the Leafs and that Seattle would consider dealing him even though they are in it, since they don't think they would be bringing him back.

 

[ACC1224]

Interesting you bring him up. I am listening to the Mirtle and Siegel podcast and they had Elliotte on as a guest. He mentioned Soucy would be a nice fit for the Leafs and that Seattle would consider dealing him even though they are in it, since they don't think they would be bringing him back.

Really??
I wanted him last year but I would be surprised if they would move him. Making the playoffs would be huge for Seattle, I doubt they will sell.

 

[KTG]

What about swinging for ROR and David Perron. Inject some of that winning St. Louis culture into the Leafs. Those guys have instant chemistry and could carry Knies on the third line. You could run either:

Knies-ROR-Perron
or
Knies-ROR-Jarnkrok

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Bertuzzi + ROR would be savvvy adds...if we could make the cap work and not lose Knies.


Bertuzzi-Matthews-Nylander
Bunting-Tavares-Marner
Knies-ROR-Jarnkrok
Zar-Kampf-Holmberg

Is playoff ready...

My spidey senses says Bunting finds a home with ROR and Knies has some Rookie legs in the playoffs

The D is fine.

 

[leafan11]

What are the chances Dubas get's an LTIR guy like Nyquist just for the playoffs?

Serious question why would you want Nyquist? He’s soft as butter

 

[SprDaVE]

Interesting you bring him up. I am listening to the Mirtle and Siegel podcast and they had Elliotte on as a guest. He mentioned Soucy would be a nice fit for the Leafs and that Seattle would consider dealing him even though they are in it, since they don't think they would be bringing him back.

I'm also listening to it. A lot of good insights from Friedman. They talked about every player linked to the Leafs. Nothing really new per say, mostly just expanding on thoughts and breaking down the thought processes.

I think we can all agree from the insiders to the analysts to the fans, they need an upgrade or two upfront, preferably players that are tough to play against.

Friedman mentioned other names based on past links from Klingberg, Bertuzzi, Soucy, etc but another name he did mention is Scott Laughton. Doubtful the Flyers trade him anytime soon but apparently before he signed his extension Laughton would have been a target for the Leafs.

 

[McSnypsky]

Serious question why would you want Nyquist? He’s soft as butter

I just mentioned him cause he's on LTIR but could be healthy for playoffs, don't know who else is though, that's what I'm wondering about

 

[showtime8]

Bertuzzi + ROR would be savvvy adds...if we could make the cap work and not lose Knies.


Bertuzzi-Matthews-Nylander
Bunting-Tavares-Marner
Knies-ROR-Jarnkrok
Zar-Kampf-Holmberg

Is playoff ready...

My spidey senses says Bunting finds a home with ROR and Knies has some Rookie legs in the playoffs

The D is fine.

Don't mind this line-up at all.

My own take is, I don't think this defense is fine. I remember watching the Bruins game and thinking that there was basically zero pushback from the defense and it seemed very easy for the Bruins to get on the forecheck and turn the puck over.

I'm not going to hold much weight either way with weaker teams like Chicago or Columbus. But when they have to go back and retrieve the puck, the Leafs seem to be in a tougher spot against those physical teams.

 

[Morgs]

I like the idea of Kravtsov. Throw him with Holmberg and I think they can make some magic together this year, and hope they both take big strides into a bigger role next year. Both have great defensive numbers in a limited role too, but Holmberg's scoring could REALLY boost Kravtsov. Was a huge fan of him in the draft and New York is known to kill their prospects careers with poor management.

I still think my choices after Meier are Puljujarvi, Konecny, and Buchnevich. If we're going rental it's either ROR at max a 2nd+ or Kane if even cheaper than that. Not sure any other rental is even remotely interesting because I'm not paying a high pick for a Lafferty-type.

Bunting-Matthews-N/M
Jarnkrok-Tavares-Marner
Engvall-Kampf-Puljujarvi
Kerfoot-Holmberg-Kravtsov

Makes us imo significantly better for what should be basically nothing. One of the best shutdown lines in the NHL on the "3rd" line with some scoring upside with Engvall/Puljuarvi (could easily rekindle the magic they had with Mikheyev) and a very defensively responsible "4th" line with some much larger offensive upside than the 3rd.

 

[Sypher04]

What about swinging for ROR and David Perron. Inject some of that winning St. Louis culture into the Leafs. Those guys have instant chemistry and could carry Knies on the third line. You could run either:

Knies-ROR-Perron
or
Knies-ROR-Jarnkrok

Perron would be a great add. Especially with some retention

 

[DarkKnight]

Friedman says the Leafs are looking for forwards with Snarl and Physicality.

Also says that the Leafs know that Tampa is a very skilled team, but also play like a bunch of "a$&holes" lmao. Interesting to hear that. Pretty much echoes my sentiments.

Friedman says that the Leafs know they missing that "Snarl" that Tampa has

Dubas is figuring it out, grit is and always will be part of this game.

 

[BertCorbeau]

It’s a bit of recency bias on Weegar .. I’d be looking into the price.

 

[Nineteen67]

And had 92 last year

2 main player kane played last

Debrincat
Strome 16 goal 54pts pace
Last year 26 goal 57 pts pace

Debrincat last year 41 goal 78 pts
This season pace 28 goal 68 points

This season main teammane

Domi last season 13 goal 44 points pace
This season 22 goal 60 pts pace

Anasthasiou is the only one with worst stats with kane ampunt player playing with him at least 35% of the time


Its just working hard, you dont need to be physical to get it done you doing it by blocking shot, taking an hit to make a play, its put pressure on forecheck..and thats kind of thing leafs did last year against tampa... they didn't lost because of it but because lack of secondary scoring and goaltending issues

Working hard, blocking shots and taking hits are considered being physical in my book. You don’t have to it every shift, but when it’s crucial , you must do it. And they didn’t , and were justly rewarded with a trip home. And that‘s how it should be.

 

[Kiwi]

I like the idea of Kravtsov. Throw him with Holmberg and I think they can make some magic together this year, and hope they both take big strides into a bigger role next year. Both have great defensive numbers in a limited role too, but Holmberg's scoring could REALLY boost Kravtsov. Was a huge fan of him in the draft and New York is known to kill their prospects careers with poor management.

I still think my choices after Meier are Puljujarvi, Konecny, and Buchnevich. If we're going rental it's either ROR at max a 2nd+ or Kane if even cheaper than that. Not sure any other rental is even remotely interesting because I'm not paying a high pick for a Lafferty-type.

Bunting-Matthews-N/M
Jarnkrok-Tavares-Marner
Engvall-Kampf-Puljujarvi
Kerfoot-Holmberg-Kravtsov

Makes us imo significantly better for what should be basically nothing. One of the best shutdown lines in the NHL on the "3rd" line with some scoring upside with Engvall/Puljuarvi (could easily rekindle the magic they had with Mikheyev) and a very defensively responsible "4th" line with some much larger offensive upside than the 3rd.

I'd say the Rangers would want a guy in a similar situation or a reasonable pick so you'd probably need to trade Robertson for him or a 2nd or 3rd (just guestimates)

Still yes or a no at that price?

Dubas is figuring it out, grit is and always will be part of this game.

He did that with Foligno, so I'm not sure I'm on board with the grit physicality thing

Get the best fit and if he's gritty and physical it's a nice cherry on top, but not the be all end all

It’s a bit of recency bias on Weegar .. I’d be looking into the price.

Don't love that contract, at all

 

[mydnyte]

That'd be a high risk (Calgary Weegar), high reward (Florida Weegar) proposition for any team interested. Obvious aside that the new contract has yet to kick in, it still seems strange that they'd be willing to sever ties this quickly.

he scares me ...how can a defender look/play better on a team with zero defensive structure (FLA) and then lose it on a team with a solid defensive game (CAL)
We have a very solid defensive structure, we just make too many giveaways cheating to offense, so, Weegar would likely be the CAL version and not the FLA version.
We had the chance to pick him up years ago, and passed, so, maybe they were right after all

 

[Morgs]

I'd say the Rangers would want a guy in a similar situation or a reasonable pick so you'd probably need to trade Robertson for him or a 2nd or 3rd (just guestimates)

Still yes or a no at that price?



He did that with Foligno, so I'm not sure I'm on board with the grit physicality thing

Get the best fit and if he's gritty and physical it's a nice cherry on top, but not the be all end all


Don't love that contract, at all

I'd do a 3rd without much thought. A 2nd or Robertson, we better be certain he's going to play, sign a reasonable extension, and improve, but id do it. Again, I loved him as a draft prospect and his D+1 was even better. It's just been since the Rangers got their hands on him his game slipped, and even then his driving skills have shown he's a fantastic player in a depth role.