Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[thusk]

Not even going to bother speculating about Knies signing or not.

I would expect the Leafs management have a handle on this. If their inclination is he isn't signing, then he will be traded for a major addition before the TDL, and it will be explained by Management that was the reason he was traded.

Having said that, nothing points in the direction of his not signing, starting with Matthews being his favorite player, and coming into a top NHL team with management committing to him a chance to start in big team roster.

Not even going to bother worrying about something like this. If he doesn't want to be here, with the set up we have, the opportunity to win, and the value and respect that our Management team has shown him over the last year in particular, well, I don't know what to tell you young man.

He will be a Leaf and in our lineup after his collegiate season is over. There is no reason to think otherwise.....

I dont understand what the positive thing about signing knies too soon and maybe lost 1 rookie contract season for an effective player who would probably not 100% NHL ready and probably dont have much more impact...

So losing 1 year of where the higher quality player/ salary are... for a team who will need to find great player at low salary for whats in reality? Should be a great idea??? How?!?!

 

[WTFMAN99]

Google says a lot of things - some of it true, some of it not - but it should also be noted that comparable =/= I want the exact same contract. There's no indication that Marner demanded the Matthews contract, and he certainly didn't get it either way.

Friedman seems like a good source...also enough info out there.

Another L for you.

 

[kb]

P Kane after 2 periods.

0 G, 0 A, 0 Pts., -1, 0 PIM, 0 hits, 0 blocks, 1 SOG.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

P Kane after 2 periods.

0 G, 0 A, 0 Pts., -1, 0 PIM, 0 hits, 0 blocks, 1 SOG.

I still think he could be better with a better team around him but I think there's better options out there

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Lafferty would be a solid addition to the fourth line. Basically the only player that’s been noticeably in a positive way from Chicago…

He wouldn't upgrade anyone except ZAR, and even then it would be marginal at best.

 

[keonsbitterness]

P Kane after 2 periods.

0 G, 0 A, 0 Pts., -1, 0 PIM, 0 hits, 0 blocks, 1 SOG.

0 injuries is probably what he's going for.

 

[kb]

I still think he could be better with a better team around him but I think there's better options out there

I just don't see the Kane of old anywhere in there.

0 injuries is probably what he's going for.

Well, if this is his showcase game for his new team.....he will fit right in with the 2017 to 2022 Leafs. lol

 

[Dekes For Days]

Okay so we are agreed, it would be 12.6 + possibly a couple hundred thousand which would be in the 13s

Mid 13s to 14s is not "a couple hundred thousand" more than 12.6m.

Again im certain your using McDavid's cap hit% based on the cap ceiling the year before

I'm obviously using his signing cap hit percentage, since that's what matters.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Friedman seems like a good source...also enough info out there.

Friedman is not a god. He's right sometimes. He's half right sometimes, but missing crucial context. He's wrong sometimes. There was a lot of misinformation floating around through that Marner negotiation, but more importantly, you seem to have missed the second part of my statement. Comparable =/= exact same contract. In fact, your google search helps show that, as many of those sites refer to "Matthews money" as a similar tier of pay, not an exact contract. And again, he didn't get the Matthews contract. Not sure why you're trying to misrepresent his last contract and fearmonger for his next one.

 

[BertCorbeau]

On the Lafferty train .. lots to like there

 

[Knies iT]

He wouldn't upgrade anyone except ZAR, and even then it would be marginal at best.

One 4th liner over another is always going to be marginal.

He upgrades the 4th line.

 

[X66]

Kane’s defensive game was as advertised lol.

In saying that, when he was skating in the 3rd the speed still looked like it was there.

 

[OVO16]

P Kane after 2 periods.

0 G, 0 A, 0 Pts., -1, 0 PIM, 0 hits, 0 blocks, 1 SOG.

Exactly what the leafs are missing

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Not to base everything on one game, but Kane sure doesn't look like an elite player on a team holding him back. He just looks like a washed up vet who's been finished by his injuries. This was his chance to play a meaningful game against one of the team he wants to play for and he was a damn ghost

 

[BertCorbeau]

I'm not sure about Kane .. it could be injury related or he's declined

.. or he's just coasting until he can get moved a contender and turn up his play.

I don't know what to think.

 

[Morgs]

Let's not base us wanting Kane over one game guys, he's been this bad all season and equally as bad defensively basically his whole career!!

If he's not dirt cheap with retention I don't want him.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Let's not base us wanting Kane over one game guys, he's been this bad all season and equally as bad defensively basically his whole career!!

If he's not dirt cheap with retention I don't want him.

Exactly .. I mean even if he's declined, if going to a contender motivates him and you give him softer matchups in the bottom 6 (with spot duty in the top 6) that could be some valuable depth scoring.

Still not my focus though.

 

[Smif]

Let's not base us wanting Kane over one game guys, he's been this bad all season and equally as bad defensively basically his whole career!!

If he's not dirt cheap with retention I don't want him.

I prefer Domi tbh. He can play top 6 wing and is centre insurance in case of injury. Seems like an under the radar player that would be cheaper and doesn't need additional assets to retain salary cause he's cheap enough as is.

 

[Kurtz]

He didn't look great, but did you guys see who he was playing with out there?

 

[leafan11]

He didn't look great, but did you guys see who he was playing with out there?

He’s not worth the assets required to obtain him.

 

[Leaffan1991]

He wouldn't upgrade anyone except ZAR, and even then it would be marginal at best.

He looks better than majority of our bottom 6 guys

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

He didn't look great, but did you guys see who he was playing with out there?

So what? Other players on bad teams manage to look like good players. I feel bad for his linemates at this point

 

[Kurtz]

He’s not worth the assets required to obtain him.

I think that even with full retention he'll cost less than a 1st.

 

[Budz]

Kane is ok - stop slagging him. However, he is not a fit. Need a 2LW and 3C.

I would give a mid round pick for Lafferty.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Friedman: Why Maple Leafs Are Most Fascinating Team Ahead Of Trade Deadline

SPORTSNET

Feb 15, 2023 32 Thoughts

NHL insider Elliotte Friedman joins Tim & Friends to discuss the latest on the NHL trade market, including the Arizona Coyotes holding out Jakob Chychrun, what makes the Toronto Maple Leafs so interesting, and where Patrick Kane could be headed.