Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[Sypher04]

There is absolutely no way Kane signs for Gio deal. Kane already has his cup; he isn't chasing anymore; he is probably looking for a retirement package

I believe he means acquisition cost

 

[Amadeus]

Might be depth D and a 4th liner coming. That's about it.

 

[LeafChief]

I really like the way Colorado handled their deadline last year. Fill holes rather than worrying about bringing in the big fish,

Lehkonen
Manson
Cogliano

Who would be this years equivalent?

 

[Gallagbi]

The closer we get to the tdl, the less interested I become in buying any of the big names.

Just keep waiting and see which teams get desperate enough on their tank for Bedard. A 2nd or B prospect could go a long way in a team trying to get as worse as possible

Agreed, our biggest need is middle 6 fwds IMO, so i wouldnt be paying major assets either

 

[Gabriel426]

The closer we get to the tdl, the less interested I become in buying any of the big names.

Just keep waiting and see which teams get desperate enough on their tank for Bedard. A 2nd or B prospect could go a long way in a team trying to get as worse as possible

I think having Hutch or Mrazek on your team will be an amazing trade chip for the tank.
We do have Kally though, lol.

 

[Morgs]

He's been over 20 minutes a game since about 2013 on three different teams with multiple coaches.

Again, I'm not saying he's a good player.

Yeah I know you're not. I also think we all know that NHL coaches for the most part are awful talent evaluators and are blinded by size

 

[Morgs]

I really like the way Colorado handled their deadline last year. Fill holes rather than worrying about bringing in the big fish,

Lehkonen
Manson
Cogliano

Who would be this years equivalent?

Puljujarvi
McNabb
Idk, a bad player but decent defensively. Similar to ZAR.

 

[ULF_55]

Yeah I know you're not. I also think we all know that NHL coaches for the most part are awful talent evaluators and are blinded by size

Yeah, they're right up there with fans.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I really like the way Colorado handled their deadline last year. Fill holes rather than worrying about bringing in the big fish,

Lehkonen
Manson
Cogliano

Who would be this years equivalent?

Garland, Barbashev, Henrique, McCabe

Garland is signed for a long time, but if Vancouver is desperate to get rid of him I'd be all over that. I'd also strongly look at Barbashev. Those 2 guys + Knies would really solidify the bottom 6

 

[Fogelhund]

Might be depth D and a 4th liner coming. That's about it.

No need for depth D… we’ve got a ton of depth already. At this point it’s either a quality upgrade, or don’t bother. Unless something is cheap.

If we make a forward move, it’s more than a 4th liner.

 

[Kiwi]

I find this inconsistent though.

If Timmins, on a great controlled contract, expiring to RFA status, capable of being a 20 minute game defender on an NHL team isn't worth a top 6 forward?

When did I ever say that?

Timmins is an extremely good bottom pair defender who's capable of running a PP unit getting just over 1M for the next few years, I don't know if he's capable of more yet but he's good value for us

Is Myers worth a top 6 forward? Of course he isn't those guys tend to be expensive and teams will want assets of commensurate value back and Timmins isn't there yet, he's still a bottom pair defenseman on a good deal

 

[Kiwi]

Looking good in a strong team against worst opposion line its not the same the looking good against toughest matchup in an awful team... timmins was not able to find a regular spot in an awful team who had a huge need at D, bit because he wqs able to look fine during 18 game in an excellent team... so now hes a beast but a player who played against toughest matchup game after game in an other team almost as trash than arizona, he becoming worst than the guy who was not enought good to earn a starting spot in the same quality of team?!?!?!

The only 2-3 season in carreer he was playing with a good line up was his last 2-3 in winnipeg when player like ehlers, connor started and grow up with jets... and we was looking great and thats why he get a 6M contract right after...giving myers a good team around him again and good chance you will see back that myers...

Timmins won't even play this season unless we get injuries and he's going to be a 3rd pair defenseman next season, he's also making 3rd pair money

There's no way in hell I'd take on a guy getting curb stomped making 6M when I know I've already got at least 2 RD better than him and another debatable one, that's the dumbest way of allocating cap dollars I could imagine

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I really like the way Colorado handled their deadline last year. Fill holes rather than worrying about bringing in the big fish,

Lehkonen
Manson
Cogliano

Who would be this years equivalent?

Probably ROR or some other 3C (Monahan, Domi, Toews are probably the next best options but I think ROR makes the most sense), Knies, and some kind of cheap depth defenseman.

Or if we wanted to add a second forward, there is a long list of cheaper guys like Cogliano out there who could play on the Holmberg line... But none of them are probably going to be any better than just using Holmberg/Anderson/Steeves alongside Knies and ROR. LTIR-ing Nyquist is probably the most clever move we could make that could be better than those young guys and makes sense from an asset perspective.

Nothing really like Lehkonen out there, but I guess if you want the extra year, then someone like Henrique somewhat makes sense (if you can swing the cap).

Our defense is already pretty good, so we don't need a Manson-type like Colorado did. I think, at best, we look for a better version of Benn.

 

[HellasLEAF]

I'm buying the hype on Gavrikov. This is a player that would instantly improve the Leafs defence.

 

[SprDaVE]

I really like the way Colorado handled their deadline last year. Fill holes rather than worrying about bringing in the big fish,

Lehkonen
Manson
Cogliano

Who would be this years equivalent?

What people forget is that it's because they had no 1st round pick since they traded it (and Timmins) for a retained Kuemper for the season in the off-season. They didn't draft until the 6th round last draft after loading up. They spent a lot of picks and prospects, and I mean a lot of picks and prospects, to acquire those players. It worked out for sure though. Funny enough they didn't have to trade Byram either... weird.

They would have 100% went for a bigger fish if they had a 1st round pick.

 

[cyris]

I'm buying the hype on Gavrikov. This is a player that would instantly improve the Leafs defence.

If the Leafs trade for Gavrikov they may as well trade Sandin to get him.
Not that I think the team should give up on Rasmus but he was already a hard sign this summer due in large part to scratching him in the playoffs in previous seasons. I don’t see any way you can do it again and not have him demand a trade.
I know a lot of people will say they should scratch or trade Holl instead but I think at this point We have to acknowledge that isn’t going to happen. The management and coaching staff are higher on him than much of the fan base are.

 

[dubplatepressure]

I really like the way Colorado handled their deadline last year. Fill holes rather than worrying about bringing in the big fish,

Lehkonen
Manson
Cogliano

Who would be this years equivalent?

Manson and Lehkonen are both quite good pieces - not first line players but absolutely great depth pieces. Manson plays on their 2nd pairing and Lehkonen is their 1LW until Landy is back.

I'd be quite pleased if we were able to land these kinds of pieces this year - would kind of be perfect.

Manson returned Hellion + 2nd, our loose equivalent to Neimela + 3rd or 4th. Lekhonen returned Justin Barron + 2nd, our loose equivalent again to a Robertson + 2nd or Neimela + 2nd.

So going by that, if we can carve off two of Robertson, Voit, Minten, or Neimela, plus a couple 2nds, we may be able to add a couple pieces like that.

Not sure who the comparable are this year though. Gavrikov? Boeser or Garland? Connor Sheary (he's a little older than Lehkonen was)? Oloffson? Tatar? Crouse?

 

[Dragao6]

They won 3 rounds in OV's first 9 seasons (Never more than 1 a year and missed the playoffs 3 times too)

Stamkos' Lighning won 2 rounds in his first 6 seasons (And missed the playoffs 4 times). MacKinnon's Avs didn't win a round until his 6th season (And missed the playoffs 3 of his first 5 years). The GOAT McD's Oilers won one round in his first 6 seasons (And missed the playoffs 3 times)

Our window is not closing as fast as people think and I think our window remains the same for the next 2 years but actually gets bigger after that for about ~5 years.

Well we’re not bringing the oilers into this because that’s just not fair lol

But as for all your facts the problem is how little success u want to make those teams look like they had before winning
Our past is a big fat ZERO

 

[Maplebeasts]

Chychrun scratched. Wonder who's going to get him.

 

[notdoneyet]

I don’t want knies or minten traded.

Trade all the rest and any 1st rounders needed to put us over the top

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Chychrun scratched. Wonder who's going to get him.

I mean it is pretty much done.

Some are speculating LA but they don't want to announce it until later since they are honouring Dustin Brown today.

LA makes the most sense by far anyways. Makes no sense for the Leafs at all really.

 

[SprDaVE]

I mean it is pretty much done.

Some are speculating LA but they don't want to announce it until later since they are honouring Dustin Brown today.

LA makes WAY too much sense. They have a ton of prospects and picks, with a big hole on their LD.

I don't know why the Kings didn't trade for him sooner... but we'll see.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Chychrun scratched. Wonder who's going to get him.

My guess - Buffalo or NJ in the east, and LA for west.

 

[ULF_55]

Chychrun might be holding up other deals.

Common Trades.

Even go for some Uncommon Trades.

 

[TheDoldrums]