Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[BertCorbeau]

Henrqiues contract is perfect but isnt he kinda bad? Not sure if im a fan of his game. ROR would be very nice I wonder what his next contracts aav would look like.

A healthy ROR would be the best option... but he's been in the IR for a foot fracture (stress related IIRC) that he was trying to play through (which could explain his poor year).

But it's interesting he was pegged for a return around the deadline. This is eerily similar to Foligno .. So it makes you wonder how ROR's health is and how his foot injury will linger in the postseason.

That's why for me, I'm not as keen. Especially if the price is high.

I guess with Tank going for a modest price I wonder if that's what the price tag for ROR is?

 

[Dragao6]

Playoff bound teams, sitting 3rd in the nhl at the all star break do no sell. That is assinine.

One that pretty much has had the same roster that has lost in the first round for past 5/6 years do!!! And haven’t won a series in how long?!
Specially when could be GMs final attempt!

Definition of Insanity come to mind!

 

[SprDaVE]

This is the answer

Henrique please.. 2 playoff runs and it solidifies the team’s centre depth

Henrqiues contract is perfect but isnt he kinda bad? Not sure if im a fan of his game. ROR would be very nice I wonder what his next contracts aav would look like.

He's not bad, if anything he's pretty underrated. His contract is the big problem. Almost 6M going into next season. I have hard time seeing a fit even at 50% but I do think he'd fit the 3rd line center very well if they can fit him in.

 

[Fogelhund]

One that pretty much has had the same roster that has lost in the first round for past 5/6 years do!!! And haven’t won a series in how long?!
Specially when could be GMs final attempt!

Definition of Insanity come to mind!

Specially? What? Did you mean especially?

Sure, they’ve lost before, so let’s not even try and sell off assets for future picks. Sounds like a rebuild, not a team trying to win. Sounds like a bottom feeder, not the team currently 3rd in the league. Do you even understand what the definition of insanity refers to?

 

[Kiwi]

One that pretty much has had the same roster that has lost in the first round for past 5/6 years do!!! And haven’t won a series in how long?!
Specially when could be GMs final attempt!

Definition of Insanity come to mind!

The definition of insanity is having one of the better regular season teams in the league and selling instead of adding

You dont stop trying to win because you have failed previously, you keep on trying until your guys either leave or age out but you don't stop giving it a crack

Failures don't magically become successes
You keep on going until you are or die trying

 

[DarkKnight]

You always give your guys a shot, for several reasons. To see what they’ve got now, and into the future, and showcase them for trades. You never know, until you try.

It’s absurd to never give them a shot, or showcase them, just poor asset management. It’s highly improbable that Steeves steals a spot, but maybe he increase his trade value. Maybe he shows he’s worth percolating further for a shot next year. Sooner or later, ok to good prospects should get a look.

Lol I think we’ve given Marlies guys shots this year, and if you think a Steeves is an answer against the Bruins, come the eff on. Are we trying to win a cup here? We’ve already wasted years while Dubas and his coach get the training wheels off, let’s go already. The Marlies, wow.

Can't hurt to have a look at them

Worst case scenario is they don't pop and we're in exactly the same situation we are now
Best case is somebody does and we can look for something else we may need Instead

No downside, no risk

We already know what we have, how many callups do you need, Steeves now, he’s the solution? Laughable.

Go out and get someone, quit f***ing around with nothingness. There are no more answers on the Marlies, that seems abundantly clear.

 

[Erndog]

The time to give these guys a spin is Sept training camp and the early days of the season in Oct/Nov. You know, like we did with Holmberg. Not 3 weeks before the deadline. Even if a guy comes in hot, there is zero reason to believe he would stay hot. Guys shoot out of a cannon all the time and slowly trail off.







Nobody is saying not to try Steeves but it shouldn't, but any stretch, preclude you from making a move to upgrade. At best it shows he can be a callup in the playoffs should injuries hit.

This managements been paralyzed in making a bold move. The Foligno trade really did a number on them.

 

[ULF_55]

In hockey, especially when you have a group of CORE players that are only going to be together for maybe another year, you have to go ALL IN or GO HOME. the fact that Chychrun isn't in a Leaf jersey yet tells me that Dubas doesn't have the BALLS to pull the trigger.

Also, the complete lack of sense NOT to go get a power fwd. to play with Tavaras speaks volumes about the incredible ignorance of this GM.

Toronto has many players that they can move without much thought of hurting the talent pool they have compiled, but they definitely cant expect to compete against the top teams with the lineup that they have now.

Unfortunately, it will be Another early exit for Toronto again this spring.

Just for curiosity, who do you think they could land and at what cost, including where the Cap Space is coming from?

And I take it you are in both of these categories:

All In
All Out

 

[DarkKnight]

The time to give these guys a spin is Sept training camp and the early days of the season in Oct/Nov. You know, like we did with Holmberg. Not 3 weeks before the deadline. Even if a guy comes in hot, there is zero reason to believe he would stay hot. Guys shoot out of a cannon all the time and slowly trail off.







Nobody is saying not to try Steeves but it shouldn't, but any stretch, preclude you from making a move to upgrade. At best it shows he can be a callup in the playoffs should injuries hit.

This managements been paralyzed in making a bold move. The Foligno trade really did a number on them.

Steeves was literally the most disappointing prospect at camp too, he was exceptional in how out of his depth he was, just awful. Now, we’re building for a cup run and he’s a possible answer? Pure madness, I just hope Dubas is blowing smoke to bring down some asking prices, that’s the only way this makes sense.

Now watch Steeves pot two in his first game, because it’s so Leafy. Seriously though too, many guys come up, look serviceable, but tail of after the adrenaline rush fades.

Paralyzed is a good term too, the Foligno mess has spooked him, now making contradictory statements about rentals and prospects and long term thinking.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Steeves was literally the most disappointing prospect at camp too, he was exceptional in how out of his depth he was, just awful. Now, we’re building for a cup run and he’s a possible answer? Pure madness, I just hope Dubas is blowing smoke to bring down some asking prices, that’s the only way this makes sense.

Now watch Steeves pot two in his first game, because it’s so Leafy. Seriously though too, many guys come up, look serviceable, but tail of after the adrenaline rush fades.

Paralyzed is a good term too, the Foligno mess has spooked him, now making contradictory statements about rentals and prospects and long term thinking.

You’re reading into this way too much

 

[Judas Tavares]

After the Bruins game and up until the Tarasenko trade I took a little bit of a bye week myself from these boards. I've since noticed the level of panic here is through the roof. Was it the Boston loss? The Horvat trade (they did something so now we must!)?

Seems more dire in here than usual and that is saying something.

 

[The Management]

I used to roll my eyes every time somebody in this thread mentioned Boone Jenner, because the Jackets are desperate for centers, he's their captain, and he's not the type of player teams like to trade.

I didn't realize he was 29 (geez I'm old); am I reading that right? I still can't imagine he's available unless he wants a trade, but Columbus is an interesting case.

They're virtually dead last in the league (one more point than Chicago, but the Hawks have a couple games in hand). If Jenner wants an opportunity to win, he's not going to get it with the Jackets. That team has way too many issues. They need goaltending, defence, forwards that run the powerplay... Signing Gaudreau might have appeared to be a good sign, bringing in a top line player of a comparable age, but that team is still a tire fire and it looks like a better candidate for a rebuild than a contender.

 

[SprDaVE]

After the Bruins game and up until the Tarasenko trade I took a little bit of a bye week myself from these boards. I've since noticed the level of panic here is through the roof. Was it the Boston loss? The Horvat trade (they did something so now we must!)?

Seems more dire in here than usual and that is saying something.

The deadline always brings up wildly insane variety of opinions and expectations. It tends to get more and more elaborate as the days get closer to the deadline and a trade hasn't happened yet, and frustrations grow.

 

[Fogelhund]

Lol I think we’ve given Marlies guys shots this year, and if you think a Steeves is an answer against the Bruins, come the eff on. Are we trying to win a cup here? We’ve already wasted years while Dubas and his coach get the training wheels off, let’s go already. The Marlies, wow.


We already know what we have, how many callups do you need, Steeves now, he’s the solution? Laughable.

Go out and get someone, quit f***ing around with nothingness. There are no more answers on the Marlies, that seems abundantly clear.

You are getting worked up, about a nothing call up. It's the middle of a long season. We have 13 forwards on the roster right now. So, either Anderson, or Steeves gets in. Neither are the answer IMO... but both are getting paid extra by being on the Leafs (A nice reward), and getting to showcase what they have. With a fully healthy roster, neither would be there now... and we are likely to bring on Knies and whomever else we trade for... so relax, these guys are well away from the lineup in the playoffs, or playing the Bruins. Have some perspective on this... everyone gets a shot, no matter what. Matthews is out, Robertson is out... McMann would get a playoff shot first... But realize, injuries in the playoffs do happen, so you've got to give people a look to know what you have at the NHL level.... for this year (hopefully not), for next year... and for asset management... Maybe someone else wants to see Steeves for trade purposes. Seriously, NOBODY, thinks this is a roster spot for the playoffs tryout.... To continue down such a road is laughable.

After the Bruins game and up until the Tarasenko trade I took a little bit of a bye week myself from these boards. I've since noticed the level of panic here is through the roof. Was it the Boston loss? The Horvat trade (they did something so now we must!)?

Seems more dire in here than usual and that is saying something.

Some panic after every loss... but I'd guess it's more the bye week, no games, no news. Yes, the trade too... People are wild, no patience at all.

 

[The Podium]

Lol I think we’ve given Marlies guys shots this year, and if you think a Steeves is an answer against the Bruins, come the eff on. Are we trying to win a cup here? We’ve already wasted years while Dubas and his coach get the training wheels off, let’s go already. The Marlies, wow.


We already know what we have, how many callups do you need, Steeves now, he’s the solution? Laughable.

Go out and get someone, quit f***ing around with nothingness. There are no more answers on the Marlies, that seems abundantly clear.

This is an extremely irrational reaction…

 

[Fogelhund]

I don't think we should be the team to claim him.. .but interesting potential move...

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[TMLAM34]

If the Leafs were to acquire Puljujarvi, they can not qualify him in the off-season and still re-sign him to a cheaper contract correct? Cause he’s not worth 3 million.

Would be an interesting name to play alongside Holmberg in the bottom six next year though.

 

[SprDaVE]

If the Leafs were to acquire Puljujarvi, they can not qualify him in the off-season and still re-sign him to a cheaper contract correct? Cause he’s not worth 3 million.

Would be an interesting name to play alongside Holmberg in the bottom six next year though.

I would love the Leafs to get him but he makes way too much money right now. A team with infinite amount of cap space should throw a 7th round pick at him 100%.

 

[TMLAM34]

I would love the Leafs to get him but he makes way too much money right now. A team with infinite amount of cap space should throw a 7th round pick at him 100%.

There’s a chance Edmonton would be willing to retain 50% of his contract as long as they’re not taking any salary back so either a pick or prospect would go the other way.

 

[BertCorbeau]

If the Leafs were to acquire Puljujarvi, they can not qualify him in the off-season and still re-sign him to a cheaper contract correct? Cause he’s not worth 3 million.

Would be an interesting name to play alongside Holmberg in the bottom six next year though.

Yeah they would have to not qualify him but he then becomes an UFA.

He’s intriguing.. could have a change of scenery vibe but if he can’t generate offensis on the Oilers, I’m a bit concerned

 

[thusk]

The funniest thing is to see people panik to see leafs trying their young AHLer like steeves who cant be even closer to be NHL ready because they tought they are too weak for playoff matchup but at the same time... thing knies who came from NCAA will come in and being able to have a impact against boston or tampa... its just hilarious. Knies is a good prospect but hes not an elite one like makar or mcavoy or caufield or whatever who was able to start at the end of season/playoff and get an impact.

The reality is player like steeves, anderson, SDA, abrusseze, mcmann are probably closer to be NHL ready than knies right now but for the only fact knies is big, OMG he become instantly just so good

 

[TMLAM34]

Yeah they would have to not qualify him but he then becomes an UFA.

He’s intriguing.. could have a change of scenery vibe but if he can’t generate offensis on the Oilers, I’m a bit concerned

Would there be a window of opportunity to re-sign him before he officially becomes a UFA though? I think we tried doing the same with Rodrigues a few years back but he didn’t want to sign him and went to UFA officially.

 

[SprDaVE]

There’s a chance Edmonton would be willing to retain 50% of his contract as long as they’re not taking any salary back so either a pick or prospect would go the other way.

There's no way Edmonton retains 1.5M of salary. They have less cap space than us. If they retain salary, the price to acquire will be a lot higher too.

They'll find a way to get him to a new team. I think he'll get claimed on waivers if they go that route.

 

[ULF_55]

I've watched a fair amount of Oilers games, and you have to pay attention to know he's playing.

I think someone will claim him, we aren't talking any large committment here not a large amount of real money.

Claim, retain, trade?

 

[Brobust]

Guys wanting Henrique, imagine your contender trades for Bozak in 17-18.

Not a bad player, but boring.