Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[Zybalto]

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Tavares - ROR - Nylander
Bertuzzi - Kampf - Jarnkrok
Kerfoot - Acciari - Lafferty
ZAR

What would it take?

 

[WTFMAN99]

While I agree with this opinion of his, he's kind of lost the plot this year, and is saying some really out there things.

I really think Seravelli's hot takes are purely for the clicks.

He's been interesting but can't discount a guy that revealed like 95% of Seattle's expansion draft selections

 

[SprDaVE]

What would it take?

If his off-ice issues is not an issue (travelling, visa, etc), then I think Boston's first, a prospect like maybe Hirvonen? and a cap dump is pretty fair if we also assume Bertuzzi would be at 50%.

I have no idea how accurate his travelling issues are though and it seems like the Red Wings are still on the fence about selling.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[Burnie97]

 

[ER89]

Seravelli states that the Leafs are unlikely to sit tight with 12 forwards and 9D

beyond the obvious shit that this guy says - his takes are horribad

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Dubas is slipping. He hasn't made a trade in the last 2 hours.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Screw it get Bertuzzi

Bunting Matthews Marner
Bertuzzi Tavares Nylander
Lafferty O'Reilly Jarnkrok
ZAR Kampf Acciari
Knies

Reilly Brodie
McCabe Liljegren
Giordano Schenn
Benn Timmins

Kerfoot Holl Gustaffson out for picks used to acquire Bertuzzi

 

[thusk]

I respectfully disagree on the offense. He had 1G1A last year against the same opponent we are facing this year. He had a career year last year with 51 points.

Based on the roster he would be playing with worse linemates this year, or at least linemates that he's shown very little chemistry with until this point in the season, his worst offensively since his first year in Toronto.

There is nothing to indicate he will do better than his 1G1A last year in a career year against the same opponent. I'd say it's pretty reasonable to think he will do worse.

You make a fair point that he's likely underappreciated for his defensive game. However I would argue even that was soured after he took an idiotic penalty in the offensive zone on a PK causing a 5 on 3 in a game 6 elimination game which directly lead to Tampa Bay tying the game. That doesn't eliminate his defensive game as a whole, but when he's contributing very little offensively, he can't afford to take stupid penalties. Certainly not ones that lead to such a significant goal against.

If the Leafs acquire another top 9 winger, I think the goal would be someone who can score more with the hope that ROR could provide an equally effective defensive game as Kerfoot.

Even with my personal dislike for Kerfoot, I'd agree that with Engvall gone it doesn't make sense to just unload him for nothing. However, I think he can be upgraded on quite easily, especially with the new complexion of the bottom 6.

1- its not a stupid penalty, it was just a player working hard on 1v1 battle get his stick lift by his opponent who hit his face... its unfortunate bit just unlucky...

2-nothing garanteed if exemple leafs trading for henrique than he will het more than his 0 goal and 0 assist last time he playoff
Or
a duclair With his 1 goal 2 assist last 14 playoff game

3- kerfoot was he really worst than a hagel with his 2 goal 4 assist or killorn with 4 assist in 23 games?

 

[Ianturnedbull]

beyond the obvious shit that this guy says - his takes are horribad

Why?

 

[lipstickjunkie]

What would it take?

Bertuzzi would fit this team like a glove, despite his down year. Him or Crouse. I like Crouse because of the age and term, but would obviously cost more. Either way, a big, gritty, tough LW who can score and throw his weight around a little bit is the one last ingredient we need IMO.

I think like some others have said, Boston's 1st and filler probably gets it done.

 

[ACC1224]

Dubas is slipping. He hasn't made a trade in the last 2 hours.

Who did he trade for this morning?

 

[horner]

Doubt Kerfoot has that value.

Engvall a 3rd rd pk ?

 

[Zybalto]

If his off-ice issues is not an issue (travelling, visa, etc), then I think Boston's first, a prospect like maybe Hirvonen? and a cap dump is pretty fair if we also assume Bertuzzi would be at 50%.

I have no idea how accurate his travelling issues are though and it seems like the Red Wings are still on the fence about selling.

lol, The exact deal I was typing out but then I erased it:

Bertuzzi (50%)
for
1st (Bos)
Hirvonen
Holl

I'm not sure the "issues" hold up so much now that the public mood has shifted quite a bit.


That being said, I think the Canes might be looking at him hard right now as they have yet to fire their shot.

 

[ER89]

Why?

first he mused that leafs could take on gavrikov and korpisalo after we had traded for gustaffson and schenn - and the return going back was astronomical. Then he suggested that leafs could take on quick as his bro in law is matt moulson - a first year scout for the leafs.


yes seravalli - because every contender would like a 876 goalie with a 5m+ caphit.

Look at his twitter feed, rampant with silly suggestions and thoughts.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I'd like to think Knies is a depth option, not a go to. I'd be shocked if they hinge a pretty important role on a player that might not join them until the last week of the season. Leafs can't count on him being ready for the NHL right away either. There's no way in my eyes. They didn't change 30% of the roster just to give Knies a spot.

The thing is, we have to consider the role too. If he is taking ZAR minutes, he effectively is a role player. He'd be playing 10-11 minutes a night in probably the easiest role we have. We aren't asking him to be a top 6 guy or a gamechanger. Be better than ZAR and you are good.

It is the same thing with having all of these huge trade ideas to upgrade ZAR. Other than him, everyone in our lineup has played 3rd line minutes this year. Why do we need another guy who handles large minutes? We need effectively a 4th line guy who knows how to score more than a guy who will barely get to double digits in points by the end of the year.

Knies fits that perfectly.

 

[Chief Leaf]

I could handle Quick getting flipped here for goaltender depth insurance.

I'm still on the Wilson train and hopefully somehow, he lands on our tracks!

 

[Fogelhund]

What names did you have in mind?

I can't find a lot out there, that makes me go... ya, that's what we need... at least in guys who could be available...

I mean there is Jenner and Crouse... but are these guys available? What is Florida doing? Are they rebuilding, or "just having a down year" Verhaeghe seems to be doing well there, and is scoring plenty of goals... but would they withhold cap hit? I doubt it. Bennett is a name that comes up often, but he sucked in 3rd line minutes in Calgary and is having a down year again..

Comtois is a guy with size, who in the past has scored goals.. but I think we are past the point of taking on a reclamation project. As a cheaper UFA in the summer, it makes sense though for sure.

What about Toffoli? Having a good year, always been more of a scorer.. 16 goals even strength, another 9 on the PP... which would be kind of wasted here... have to be 50% retention to make it work. Backlund @ 50% as your 3C?

Otherwise, I don't see who helps much, whom I think is available. Crouse with retention would be an ideal target, but I fear the price is too much.

I don't see Washington selling off pieces. I don't see Philly being big sellers, except for UFA, and I don't think JvR helps any. I don't see Ottawa or Montreal being big sellers, nor Detroit, and I think the question of can Bertuzzi even play for us is an issue. So that's a wrap for me.

 

[TMLAM34]

I wonder if Dvorak would still be an option? If the Leafs move Holl for a 2nd rounder. Then trade a 1st, 2nd and someone like Steeves or Hirvonen for a retained Dvorak?

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Tavares - O’Reilly - Nylander
Jarnkrok - Dvorak - Lafferty
Kerfoot - Kampf - Acciari

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Who did he trade for this morning?

Dad gets: cocopuffs
Child gets: wheaties.

Deal confirmed.

 

[horner]

Bertuzzi would fit this team like a glove, despite his down year. Him or Crouse. I like Crouse because of the age and term, but would obviously cost more. Either way, a big, gritty, tough LW who can score and throw his weight around a little bit is the one last ingredient we need IMO.

I think like some others have said, Boston's 1st and filler probably gets it done.

Keep thec2023 1st rd pk a really good draft.
Trade the 2024 1st rd pk

 

[BertCorbeau]

The thing is, we have to consider the role too. If he is taking ZAR minutes, he effectively is a role player. He'd be playing 10-11 minutes a night in probably the easiest role we have. We aren't asking him to be a top 6 guy or a gamechanger. Be better than ZAR and you are good.

It is the same thing with having all of these huge trade ideas to upgrade ZAR. Other than him, everyone in our lineup has played 3rd line minutes this year. Why do we need another guy who handles large minutes? We need effectively a 4th line guy who knows how to score more than a guy who will barely get to double digits in points by the end of the year.

Knies fits that perfectly.

ZAR, Knies, McMcMann, Holmberg ... All capable options. Kampf/Acciari/Lafferty/Jarnkrok/Kerfoot are solid supporting vets

 

[ACC1224]

I wonder if Dvorak would still be an option? If the Leafs move Holl for a 2nd rounder. Then trade a 1st, 2nd and someone like Steeves or Hirvonen for a retained Dvorak?

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Tavares - O’Reilly - Nylander
Jarnkrok - Dvorak - Lafferty
Kerfoot - Kampf - Acciari

He can't have that much value, IMO

 

[Gary Nylund]

Dad gets: cocopuffs
Child gets: wheaties.

Deal confirmed.

Mentoring his replacement.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

first he mused that leafs could take on gavrikov and korpisalo after we had traded for gustaffson and schenn - and the return going back was astronomical. Then he suggested that leafs could take on quick as his bro in law is matt moulson - a first year scout for the leafs.


yes seravalli - because every contender would like a 876 goalie with a 5m+ caphit.

Look at his twitter feed, rampant with silly suggestions and thoughts.

Seems to be at par with most of the prefix list on HF. Just because it didn't happen factually doesn't mean that Dubas wasn't trying to acquire some of these names.