Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

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Seattle had interest in Kerfoot before I believe.

Maybe Kerfoot + Holl for Soucy? All UFA

We can run:
Rielly-Brodie
Giordano-Liljegren
Soucy-McCabe
/Timmins/Sandin

Can even shift Brodie with Soucy/McCabe as all 3 can play left side or right side.
 
Sounds like the Oilers will go hard after Gavrikov after Puljujarvi's trade... maaaaaybe Chychrun
 
It's slightly curious the subsequent cap move wasn't made yesterday since Murray was supposed to be close to returning. Set back? Or maybe they have so little faith he can make it through practice without getting hurt they want to wait to the last possible moment?
Unless something is imminent it makes the most sense to wait.
If they don’t make another addition they should wait till after Thursday’s game to make sure no one else gets hurt and they actually need to clear the cap space. And if they do make another addition they can wait till that trade to do it.
There is no point in making a cap clearing move before that.
 
I wanted Puljujarvi so bad, f***. Funny because I absolutely hated him in his draft year for the reasons Edmonton hates him now.
 
We don’t really need to replace Kerfoot with any of those names. It doesn’t need to be a big or popular name.

I’d be looking for someone who plays with a little more physicality and a shooters mentality. Someone who can slot in on the wing on either the second or third line.

I know you’ve been mentioning Comtois for quite a bit, that’s someone I’d have more interest in in the off-season than now.

A retained Vatrano ticks off a lot of boxes. Brings a more physical element and goal scoring touch than Kerfoot. He can be slotted in on the second PP unit as well. We also have O’Reilly, Acciari and Lafferty to replace Kerfoot on the PK.

Next year’s third line: Knies - O’Reilly - Vatrano. Then Lafferty, Holmberg and ideally Acciari on the fourth.

Vatrano is not much of a PP guy. He is a volume shooter who can play a solid cycle game in the bottom 6. Did well with Rangers, but he was also getting literally the same ATOI as Bunting. Is he getting that with us? Doubt it TBH. Nothing against him, but I think it would just make sense to have Knies with Kerfoot at that point. Especially since Kerfoot is probably a better fit as a playmaker and in transition for a guy like Knies, while ROR is slower and better at the cycle game similar to Tavares.

Plus with multi-year retention, that is going to be too expensive.
 
While the goal scoring is an unknown, he was a strong shutdown guy who did a pretty good job at preventing goals in a heavily defensive role. So ineffective is hardly accurate. He did his main job well, especially last year.

In a less defensive role playing with ROR? He's never had that before. What i do know is this team can't afford anyone who is a clear cut guarantee to upgrade our scoring anyways, and looking at the kind of depth Cup winning teams had in the past, we would only need a couple more goals from our bottom 6 to match... and I would hope that something they are likely capable of doing.

The major discrepancy comes in the top 6. Our big 4 had 12 goals combined in 7 games last year. Bunting had 1 goal in 6 games. Year before, Nylander had 5 goals. Matthews, Marner, and Hyman combined for 2. In 21 man games. Starting to see the problem? These guys are paid to score and they didn't score. Bottom 6 certainly could have provided a few more goals, and given how close things were, that may have made the difference. But they generally did their job. We did well limiting Tampa's top guys last year. We are not winning many series with those goal numbers from our top players. Not when other teams' top guys are scoring.

I agree with a great deal of what you post, but I call bs here.

Top 6:

Kucherov - 2g
Palat - 3g
Stamkos - 2g
Point - 2g
Cirelli - 1g
Killorn - 0g
Total : 10 goals

Matthews - 4g
Nylander - 3g
Tavares - 3g
Marner - 2g
Bunting - 1g
Kerfoot - 1g
Total : 14 goals

Bottom 6:

Colton - 3g
Paul - 2g
Perry - 2g
Hagel - 1g
Maroon - 1g
Bellemare - 1g
Total : 10 goals

Kampf - 2g
Mikheyev - 2g (both empty nets)
Blackwell - 1g
Engvall - 0g
Kase - 0g
Spezza - 0g
Simmonds - 0g
Clifford - 0g
Total : 5 goals

Our bottom 6 was wrecked.
 
2019 3rd rounder.. having a nice year in the Finnish league leading his team in scoring

He is a throwaway prospect. His rights expire this year but his contract goes until 2024 after extending earlier this year. Production is decent but not good enough for a pure offensive guy at his age.

Most likely, his rights expire and maybe he attracts interest as a Euro FA in a year. Doesn't really matter much for EDM at that point though.
 
Even Strength

Kerfoot points last three years. 88

Guys to replace him, that will allegedly increase our scoring

JvR points last three years 79
Nyquist (who probably can't be traded anyway) 91
Domi 91
Bertuzzi - who may not be able to cross the border back into the States, if he's traded to a Canadian team
Garland - 103 points. But $4.95 mil contract... too much, no chance they withhold for three years.

Two guys who really can't be traded here, one guy who has a contract that is too rich, and wouldn't be withheld, and two guys who aren't going to help create a scoring line, anymore than Kerfoot would.

I don't care about the last 3 years, I care about this year and I'd rather have every player I mentioned and more over Kerfoot.

because even if they provided the exact same offense they aren't going to do stupid things like put the team down 5 on 3 in a game 6 like Kerfoot did because Kerfoot is an idiot.
 
Engvall with actual will to compete would be a scary good player I think. Sadly we will never see it
 
Unless something is imminent it makes the most sense to wait.
If they don’t make another addition they should wait till after Thursday’s game to make sure no one else gets hurt and they actually need to clear the cap space. And if they do make another addition they can wait till that trade to do it.
There is no point in making a cap clearing move before that.
Fair enough, but Murray's return was supposed to be 'imminent' with talks he'd play one of these 2 Alberta games.
 
I don't care about the last 3 years, I care about this year and I'd rather have every player I mentioned and more over Kerfoot.

because even if they provided the exact same offense they aren't going to do stupid things like put the team down 5 on 3 in a game 6 like Kerfoot did because Kerfoot is an idiot.
Are we going so far down the Kerfoot hate path we're blaming him for being near a player who high-sticks himself?
 
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Puljujarvi could be a decent enough gamble for Carolina to take on. Have to see what EDM might accomplish with the newfound cap space.
 
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