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Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition
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Griffin76
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I'd take Kapanen back in a heartbeat. Maybe some team claims him and flips him with retention to us. His issues in Pittsburgh may only be because he didn't want to leave Toronto. Buy low. Give him a chance. If it doesn't work out then he can go back on waivers. We don't need 12 dangers out there. Kapanen is good defensively, he hits and has great speed. Maybe the guy is just "homesick"
Never impressed by Kapanen.
His brain didn’t work fast enough to keep up with his feet.
Add to it some attitude issues and was never a fan and was glad we got what we got from the Pens.
Big no here.
His brain didn’t work fast enough to keep up with his feet.
Add to it some attitude issues and was never a fan and was glad we got what we got from the Pens.
Big no here.
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Easy pass for me as well.
I'll add him to the list of 'don't wants' with JVR and Domi.
Haven't made up my mind on Schenn yet.
kb
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What is it with people wanting players back who were part of the problem in years gone by?
can say the same about people who want to hold onto dusters like Kerfoot and Holl.
Fogelhund
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They should be kept... unless you can get someone better... but that's pretty much with anyone really.
kb
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You see people actively arguing to hold onto Kerfoot and Holl?
Oddly, I see people wanting to move on from them, and somehow thinking that Kapanen and Schenn are the answers.
In that context, I would keep them too.
Personally, I don't want any of them. I have been advocating for a Kerfoot + 2 prospects for Jensen and Sheary.
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Some of you are all going on romantically about former Leafs Kapanen on waivers, when THIS former Leafs legend is also available. Y'all are really missing the boat here.
Some of you are all going on romantically about former Leafs Kapanen on waivers, when THIS former Leafs legend is also available. Y'all are really missing the boat here.
kb
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He (Kap) had a lot of hype, but just never panned out. Need to move on.
Kap was part of the problem when he was here, so I am not exactly going out on a limb by saying that if the Pens are waiving him, he won't be the solution here if he came back.
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Guaranteed if Holl goes, a couple years down the line some would want him back. We've seen this with almost every former Leaf player. They are part of the problem/stink while here, and they should be shipped out immediately, but then they are missed when they are gone. I'm not talking about just the Kadri or Hyman types that make sense. I am talking about literally everyone.
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I get personal preference, but looking objectively from the Leafs perspective, with both Johnsson and Kapanen being waived, I think the Leafs are happy with their choice and IMO they made the correct one.
Since Kapanen/Johnsson were traded, Kerfoot has put up better production, is better defensively, and has more positional versatility than those 2 as he can play C in a pinch.
Fogelhund
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Meanwhile... Kerfoot has put up 110 points since Kap was moved, and Kapanen 82... while Kerfoot has also had the ability to play C. Kerfoot was unquestionably the right player to keep.
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Part of the problem was during his first call up he went on an unsustainable shooting spree where he potted a bunch of goals. Didn't last, but I remember an awful lot of "Kapanen has made Nylander expendable posts" back then
Not sure if this is allow under the NHL rules, but I think some smart GMs and players out there will sooner or later have the loan rule in place like Euro Football.
For example, Nucks is going no where this season but would loan Miller to TB for a 3rd round pick and by off season, Miller goes back to the Nucks.
Or Nucks send Miller to NJ and the condition is, either sending a 3rd and Miller returns in the off season or Miller moves to NJ for a 1st and 2nd rounder.
I think this loan rule would make TDL really interesting.
For example, Nucks is going no where this season but would loan Miller to TB for a 3rd round pick and by off season, Miller goes back to the Nucks.
Or Nucks send Miller to NJ and the condition is, either sending a 3rd and Miller returns in the off season or Miller moves to NJ for a 1st and 2nd rounder.
I think this loan rule would make TDL really interesting.
kb
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Oh right....that just jogged that memory. Swing and a miss. lol
In Leafland, it seems like anytime a player does well, another player becomes a bum and must be moved.
Griffin76
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Absolutely correct. I just think we're missing some of the things Kapanen was good at. I always thought of Hyman, Brown and Kapanen as the diggers on the top 3 lines would look good. I'd take any of them back at any time. Everybody sees players in a slightly different light. Personally I think Kapanen just wants to be in Toronto and could turn out to be a really good 3rd liner.
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LW could be all changed around. I'm not even against 91 90 16 on the 2nd line and Kerfoot 3C or even Kampf really. Engvall could be in for Reese. All kinds of options. I don't think Kapanen would be handed a spot. But he'd have to work for it.
That also had to do with all hatred from the medias on Willie and how his dad will have such a huge influences on him.... while also Willie was holding out and both Kap and AJ was doing well with AM. On top of having Brown, MM, Hyman and Kadri with JT to round out the top 9. Also people were hyping Leivo too.
Griffin76
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Absolutely right. But had Kerfoot been moved and Kapanen kept then maybe the numbers are reversed. Maybe Kapanen could've taken another step. Look I'm not in love with Kapanen or anything, I just liked him as a player and I think he is better on this team than he would be on any other because I think he didn't want to go.
Brown is the guy I missed the most out of the group of guys that left.
Hard worker, smart enough to play with anyone, love to play in TO. Really wish he would come back this off season for league minimum and have a good season and sign for big money elsewhere.
Fogelhund
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Kapanen played with Malkin for quite a bit of time, until it was shown he just wasn't good enough. If you can't take advantage of that opportunity, it's not going to work anywhere.
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