Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[TMLAM34]

Real nice pickup for the Bruins, they just got bigger and better.

 

[PromisedLand]

Man the East is an absolute f***ing gauntlet. The Leafs have to get through Tampa and Boston and then play Carolina/NYR/NJD in the ECF. Brutal.

 

[LeafsFan89]

Tampa’s deal with the Hawks for Hagel was for both the 2023 and 2024 picks. - not one or the other. The only condition is that they are top ten protected.

What is the compensation in the event they become top 10 picks? Obviously they won't, but I am just curious.

 

[rojac]

To Toronto-
Ekholm 50% retained
Jeannot

To Nashville-
Kerfoot
Sandin
Robertson
2024 1st Round Pick
2023 2nd Round Pick

Bunting-Matthews-Nylander
Jeannot-Tavares-Marner
Knies-O'Reilly-Jarnkrok
Engvall-Kampf-Accari
AstonReese

Rielly-Brodie
Ekholm-Liljegren
Giordano-Holl
Timmons

The Leafs don’t have a 2nd this year and possibly not until 2026 but we won’t know until the draft. Arizona can choose to take either the Leafs 3rd in 2023 or their 2nd in 2024.

 

[PromisedLand]

TBH I'm not so sure that either guy we picked up is a rental. In fact, I bet that we retain ROR.

The only futures asset that is untouchable for me is Knies - so long as we don't trade him, we're ok. Our farm is still ranked around league average, which is pretty good.

Tampa and Boston have the two lowest ranked farms in the league and older stars. I think they're far more all-in than we are.

Gonna have to pick b/w retaining Bunting/ROR. Cannot keep both especially with Nylander and Matthews coming for new contract soon.

Also dont think JT's caphit coming off will help much, b/c IMO about 90% of it will go into covering raises for Nylander, Matthews and Marner

 

[cyris]

Ok, this is a small thing but nevertheless annoying.

5th round pick this draft vs a 4th a couple years down the line

 

[leafsfan2point0]

Man the East is an absolute f***ing gauntlet. The Leafs have to get through Tampa and Boston and then play Carolina/NYR/NJD in the ECF. Brutal.

The finals will probably be the easiest round for the east lol

 

[Burnie97]

The finals will probably be the easiest round for the east lol

So if the Leafs made it there somehow... they'd lose that round lol

 

[rojac]

What is the compensation in the event they become top 10 picks? Obviously they won't, but I am just curious.

I’m pretty sure they slide years. So, if the Bolts’ 2023 1st had been top ten, the Hawks would get the 2025 1st instead.

 

[Kurtz]

Gonna have to pick b/w retaining Bunting/ROR. Cannot keep both especially with Nylander and Matthews coming for new contract soon.

Also dont think JT's caphit coming off will help much, b/c IMO about 90% of it will go into covering raises for Nylander, Matthews and Marner

I was looking at the numbers earlier and I don't think it'll be a problem next season due to Muzzin likely going on LTIR for the rest of his contract. We'll also have several league min forwards (Knies, Robertson, Pontus) replacing relatively more expensive guys (Kerfoot, Engval).

The only season were things get a little hairy is 24-25 because Matthews expires and JT is still on his last year. The cap should be ~7 mil higher then, but we'd still have to cut corners on defense or in net.

Hopefully ROR and the rest give us a discount in which case we're looking pretty and can even be a player in free agency when JT expires.

 

[Mess]

Boston has the best record in the NHL .. Their team has a +92 goal differential on the season and they add 2 players that focus more on defense than offense.

They must believe "Defense wins championships"

Subban: Bruins look 'impossible to beat' after trade for Hathaway, Orlov​

P. K. Subban says the Bruins look even better after trading for Dmitry Orlov and Garnet Hathaway.

• 1h

 

[ChazzMichaelMichaels]

Orlov was the best d on the caps when they won the cup.

Personally.

Bunting. Matthews. Nylander
Jarnkrok. Tavares. Marner
Kerfoot. Kampf. Engvall
ZAR. Acciari. Holmberg


Rielly. Brodie
Sandin. Orlov
Gio. Lilly

Is a much better lineup IMO

 

[1specter]

The finals will probably be the easiest round for the east lol

That's if the Eastern team isn't already beaten down from going through wars the first 3 rounds lol

 

[Future]

Ironically if anything this reads more like a reactionary move from the Bruins after the Leafs formally started the Eastern arms race by getting their preferred target first

This. Sweeney literally copied the deal Dubas made, almost exactly, except acquired two worse players.

 

[Eye Test]

Ekholm (1.2m retained)

Sandin
Kerfoot
Hirvonen
3rd rounder 2024

How's the value look on something like this?

I’ll personally pick up ekholm from the airport for that lol. I think he’s worth more than that.

 

[The Podium]

This. Sweeney literally copied the deal Dubas made, almost exactly, except acquired two worse players.

I wouldn’t say worse, just different. I think each deal is better for each respective team but neither would want to give up that value for what the other got.

 

[LeafsFan89]

I have a lot of hype for Knies... But I don't think he can realistically play on the second line of an NHL team only a mere few weeks before the playoffs start that some are saying around here lol.

I'd be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Future]

I wouldn’t say worse, just different. I think each deal is better for each respective team but neither would want to give up that value for what the other got.

ROR > Orlov
Acciari > Hathaway

Would’ve said the same a week ago. Plus, ROR would’ve filled a bigger need for Boston.

 

[ToneDog]

ROR > Orlov
Acciari > Hathaway

Would’ve said the same a week ago. Plus, ROR would’ve filled a bigger need for Boston.

Bruins are stacked up front as it is. Pasta, Bergeron, Marchand, Zacka, Krejci, Hall, DeBrusk, Coyle. Better off solidifying their D.

 

[Eye Test]

I like the leafs trade way more than bostons this year. hopefully we can get a top 4 D.

Keep sandin unless it’s a home run player coming back. Who could we get for Robertson + 2024 1st + kerfoot (value of a second I’d wager)?

 

[BayStBullies]

I just read in the Bruins board them copy and pasting comments from here and then wondering why some Leafs fans think the world revolves around them. Well.. maybe because they're all obsessed with this team for some reason?

 

[Kiwi]

Boston has the best record in the NHL .. Their team has a +92 goal differential on the season and they add 2 players that focus more on defense than offense.

They must believe "Defense wins championships"

Subban: Bruins look 'impossible to beat' after trade for Hathaway, Orlov​

P. K. Subban says the Bruins look even better after trading for Dmitry Orlov and Garnet Hathaway.

• 1h

Yeah I mean look what we got

A couple of forwards, ones a perennial selke candidate and both of them are gritty as hell but it's obvious we don't value defensive play like our competitors do

Never change Mess, never change

 

[horner]

I have a lot of hype for Knies... But I don't think he can realistically play on the second line of an NHL team only a mere few weeks before the playoffs start that some are saying around here lol.

I'd be pleasantly surprised.

Start on the 4th line and then move up if everything pans out .
Learn from Accuri

 

[ToneDog]

Yeah I mean look what we got

A couple of forwards, ones a perennial selke candidate and both of them are gritty as hell but it's obvious we don't value defensive play like our competitors do

Never change Mess, never change

Still a week to go to TDL. We'll see if Dubas values D. Unless the Bruins do a Tampa and implode in the playoffs, I do not see them giving up many goals so we need to make sure we don't. We need to add a 20+ minute shutdown dman. Small ask eh ??

 

[123offtheglass]

So basically:

2nd in 2025 + Smith (dump) for Hathaway

& 32nd pick in 2023 + 3rd for Orlov

Solid work by the Bruins jeez