Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[1specter]

Man the East is an absolute f***ing gauntlet. The Leafs have to get through Tampa and Boston and then play Carolina/NYR/NJD in the ECF. Brutal.

 

[Subway Schenn]

This trade, at worst, puts us back in the same spot as we were a week ago before getting ROR.

Leafs can still match up and beat Boston. Or anyone for that matter. Nothing changes from the start of the year for us, and our opponent doesn't matter as much as having our guys perform to their abilities. That has been the problem every year.

Matthews has underperformed the entire year and we are still 4th in the league in points percentage. The issue is, we can't have Matthews or anyone else underperforming in the playoffs.

Basically. And we certainly can't have Samsonov/Murray (whoever's in) underperforming.

 

[Kiwi]

Oh boo hoo.

Pay the price, improve your team and try to win the cup.

It drives me nuts, this is our best core for decades

We have to at least try to win before our boys need new contracts

Kerfoot cannot survive the Playoff attrition in the bottom 6 against Tampa and Boston. He needs to be traded

No he doesn't, he may be if there's a deal out there that makes sense but he's still useful even if he's only playing 10 minutes a night

Basically. And we certainly can't have Samsonov/Murray (whoever's in) underperforming.

We never could have that happen, Tampa and Boston are great teams before other moves

 

[Kurtz]

Never said give up. Continuing to give up assets for rentals will bite you in the ass before you know it.

As for the Canes and Meier, I like the Rangers better if they get Kane.

TBH I'm not so sure that either guy we picked up is a rental. In fact, I bet that we retain ROR.

The only futures asset that is untouchable for me is Knies - so long as we don't trade him, we're ok. Our farm is still ranked around league average, which is pretty good.

Tampa and Boston have the two lowest ranked farms in the league and older stars. I think they're far more all-in than we are.

 

[willmma]

Can't find the media thread

Listened to kyper a bit. He offered this train of thought

1. that Dubas showed his cards by trading for ROR.
2. With this trade he is going all in. He has to make more trades.
3. He has to be willing to trade Knies

He repeated the above points several times.

Then the punchline:
Do you think Dubad would be selfish and trade Knies to save his job?


What a shit disturber.

 

[Nhlpowerweek]

Man the East is an absolute f***ing gauntlet. The Leafs have to get through Tampa and Boston and then play Carolina/NYR/NJD in the ECF. Brutal.

Yall already know what the streets is talkin.... they be saying the bruins got hathaway (exactly for him to break our defense). Thats also the rumor mill at the offices. I mean look at their team... and now this too:
McAvoy - Orlov
Lindholm - Carlo
Grzelcyk - Forbort/Clifton

 

[Gabriel426]

Tough team to play.

Honestly, it doesn’t make that much of a difference bc they are already tough to play against.

 

[ToneDog]

TBH I'm not so sure that either guy we picked up is a rental. In fact, I bet that we retain ROR.

The only futures asset that is untouchable for me is Knies - so long as we don't trade him, we're ok. Our farm is still ranked around league average, which is pretty good.

Tampa and Boston have the two lowest ranked farms in the league and older stars. I think they're far more all-in than we are.

Boston is having a once in a generation season so it makes sense they go all in. Tampa has 2 SCs so they are playing with house money.

Hoping they resign ROR. Maybe he takes a discount which leads 34 and 88 to do the same and we can keep most of this cast together.

 

[horner]

Personally would have preferred the Boston package

Nope .
O'Reilly and Accuri is exactly what our forward group needed.
Defensively sound
Physical toughness
Both will drive to the net

They will teach our players what the playoffs are all about.

This was the best move

 

[Burnie97]

Leafs pick was 2025, Bruins pick is for this coming draft.

I suspect that is where the difference in value was.

True and I feel like Seravalli just wanted to stir the pot. Kind of a silly tweet by him but it's getting the reaction.

 

[PromisedLand]

if Tampa gets him with Minnesota once again playing the 2nd team for retention I'd LMAO

 

[Gabriel426]

Dubas will go in and get Kane and Chychun

 

[Jacquestrapless]

Bunting - Matthews - Nylander
Jarnkrok - Tavares - Marner
Domi - O'Reilly - Lafferty
Acciari - Kampf - Engvall

Rielly - Liliy
McCabe - Brodie
Gio/Sandin - Holl
Tim

 

[horner]

Boston is having a once in a generation season so it makes sense they go all in. Tampa has 2 SCs so they are playing with house money.

Hoping they resign ROR. Maybe he takes a discount which leads to 34 and 88 to do the same and we can keep most of this cast together.

O'Reilly 5.5 @4 yrs mil he will take over from JT
Accuri 1.4 @ 3 yrs.

 

[ToneDog]

if Tampa gets him I'd LMAO

If they do, they will get him cheaper closer to the TD after everybody else at the table is left with no chips.

 

[Menzinger]

Can't find the media thread

Listened to kyper a bit. He offered this train of thought

1. that Dubas showed his cards by trading for ROR.
2. With this trade he is going all in. He has to make more trades.
3. He has to be willing to trade Knies

He repeated the above points several times.

Then the punchline:
Do you think Dubad would be selfish and trade Knies to save his job?


What a shit disturber.

I think Kyper at this point has as much insight into what the Shanny/Dubas' front office is thinking as the average fan (just pure guess work)

 

[The Podium]

Trades don't work that way. He is now going to be considered a cap dump; Leafs would have to add to get rid of Kerfoot. They should have done that in the summer.

Unless Dubas has some good will with some other GMs where "you help me now; I will help you tomorrow"; moving kerfoot is gonna cost assets

Boston literally just did it

 

[Burnie97]

Kanes talented obviously but like some have said I just can't get by who he is as a person. He seems like a little POS. Don't want him here.

If he goes to Rangers they'll have an amazing offense. Guess all his whining helped.

Still think now that dubas has gone out and made that big trade... go get a top 4 D now. Don't do it half way. Go for it now. Every team is. East is a blood bath now.

 

[LaPlante94]

I will say, the East playoff rounds should be some good exciting hockey. A lot of skill mixed with high energy/gritty players to make the games exciting from start to finish.

 

[Menzinger]

Nope .
O'Reilly and Accuri is exactly what our forward group needed.
Defensively sound
Physical toughness
Both will drive to the net

They will teach our players what the playoffs are all about.

This was the best move

It's a bit of shiny new toy syndrome. Folks will also probably be upset if Kane goes to another team.

ROR could very easily end up the most impactful tdl acquisition of any team

 

[Fogelhund]

Trades don't work that way. He is now going to be considered a cap dump; Leafs would have to add to get rid of Kerfoot. They should have done that in the summer.

Unless Dubas has some good will with some other GMs where "you help me now; I will help you tomorrow"; moving kerfoot is gonna cost assets

Lol

 

[Ziggdiezan]

I don't think it would be a wise idea to be reactionary and go out and grab a bunch more rentals just because Boston improved with this trade. Stay the course at this point but maybe make a move if you can get someone with term

 

[Dekes For Days]

Ok, this is a small thing but nevertheless annoying.

O'Rielly was a bigger cap hit, and our pick was in 2025 instead of 2023.

 

[Nhlpowerweek]

Dubas will go in and get Kane and Chychun

This forces him to haveth us stronger players. Hell, they might even bring in the Schenn. Even some total hitter dirt guy like jeannot also for the playoffs. We need that there. Cant beat hathaway with kerfoot i am already telling that straight up. Period.

 

[Kiwi]

If they do, they will get him cheaper closer to the TD after everybody else at the table is left with no chips.

Nobody in the West has done anything yet, neither have the Canes or NJ

There isn't a ton of good players left on the board either

I don't like there chances of getting a deal on a good player with that much competition