Trades and Free Agency - 2022/2023 Trade Deadline Edition

[kb]

that's solid/

Sammy could probably be had below 4 imo.

Thinking Acciari and ROR could be had slightly cheaper too. Every dollar counts.

 

[ER89]

Thinking Acciari and ROR could be had slightly cheaper too. Every dollar counts.

I wouldn't mind paying Acciari that - but you're def right.

Also ROR we need to convince that the city+family life+being now paid in USD in a place where you'll probably call home forever is highly favorable+winning a cup as a leaf+having some sort of job in management after retiring is well worth it to take a sweetheart deal.

I think ROR at 5.5+ and we'll regret it. at 5 it's probably okay for another couple years.

4.5*4 would be sweet given all the other non salary things we can provide him.

 

[Leaffan1991]

I like ZAR and Acciari together, they both compliment each other well if you could add another crash banger on that line I think they would all mesh well and wear out opponents. Lafferty or Hathaway?

 

[weems]

ZAR/McMann - Acciari - Hathaway could be a good 4th line.

All can skate and finish checks with authority.

 

[LeafChief]

I agree with what many have already mentioned.

Kerfoot makes too much to play on that 4th line. Acciari/ZAR together have been really well. Replace Kerfoot there with someone making in the 1 mill range that can crash and bang with those two and use the rest of Kerfoot's AAV to fill a hole somewhere else.

 

[showtime8]

I like ZAR and Acciari together, they both compliment each other well if you could add another crash banger on that line I think they would all mesh well and wear out opponents. Lafferty or Hathaway?

It's actually pretty remarkable to see the increased play from ZAR, since Acciari has arrived. And it's not really that his game has changed in terms of production, but because they compliment each other so well, it starts to look like his play has been elevated.

This is a very important reason why line construction matters. I'm sure if you threw out Simmonds for a game or 2 down the stretch, he wouldn't look as out of place when it comes to his skating. He'll join a line that likes to work below the red line and force defensemen to make changes.

Agree with one of those 2 guys as options to fill the 4th line role. It's too bad that Anderson didn't last longer because I thought he was decent. But come the playoffs, I think you need guys like Hathaway. My other target would be Robinson from Columbus. Amazing wheels and really good 4th liner.

I agree with what many have already mentioned.

Kerfoot makes too much to play on that 4th line. Acciari/ZAR together have been really well. Replace Kerfoot there with someone making in the 1 mill range that can crash and bang with those two and use the rest of Kerfoot's AAV to fill a hole somewhere else.

At this point in the season, I'm not too worried about the contract than I am about overall fit.

Do I think that Kerfoot is a decent NHL player? Yes. Do I think the Leafs are really trying to force the issue to find a spot for him? Yes.

 

[Fogelhund]

If somehow we are in for Chychrun, and we are looking for a crash and bang guy for the 4th line, I'd ask for McBain as well.

 

[ULF_55]

Coyotes pick up Weber.

Carry on...

 

[Leaffan1991]

It's actually pretty remarkable to see the increased play from ZAR, since Acciari has arrived. And it's not really that his game has changed in terms of production, but because they compliment each other so well, it starts to look like his play has been elevated.

This is a very important reason why line construction matters. I'm sure if you threw out Simmonds for a game or 2 down the stretch, he wouldn't look as out of place when it comes to his skating. He'll join a line that likes to work below the red line and force defensemen to make changes.

Agree with one of those 2 guys as options to fill the 4th line role. It's too bad that Anderson didn't last longer because I thought he was decent. But come the playoffs, I think you need guys like Hathaway. My other target would be Robinson from Columbus. Amazing wheels and really good 4th liner.



At this point in the season, I'm not too worried about the contract than I am about overall fit.

Do I think that Kerfoot is a decent NHL player? Yes. Do I think the Leafs are really trying to force the issue to find a spot for him? Yes.

That's why many times when our guys get traded they look so much better. We don't have the guys to compliment certain players

Nashville is asking for two first round picks for ekholm. I would do 2024 first round pick plus Sandin but with some retention on Ekholm.

 

[hockeywiz542]

The Maple Leafs made a big splash in acquiring Ryan O’Reilly. Now it’s time to go all-in, even if it means trading Matthew Knies

Maple Leafs president Brendan Shanahan and GM Kyle Dubas shouldn’t think they’re done ahead of the NHL trade deadline. That defence still needs addressing.

www.thestar.com

Yes, the Leafs’ defensive group, led by 39-year-old Mark Giordano’s calm demeanour, has collectively had a very good analytical stretch this season. But since Christmas, nothing screams that this blue line is ready for a deep playoff run. And if we go back to the moment Jake Muzzin went down mid-October, the defence core has yet to look big, mean or physical — components that are essential in any championship run.

If the defence stays as is, envisioning any of Reilly, T.J. Brodie, or Giordano getting hurt isn’t a pretty picture. Who steps in for those minutes? Timothy Liljegren? Rasmus Sandin? Timmins? It doesn’t seem very reassuring. Does trading for a bottom-pair guy like Vancouver’s Luke Schenn ease one’s mind? I’m not sure that does the trick, either.

As much as I hate to say it, Dubas and Brendan Shanahan shouldn’t think they’re done pushing the team’s poker chips to the middle of the table.

The way I see it, giving up another first-round pick or top prospect Matthew Knies has to be considered. This may be the only move to get someone capable of logging a solid 20 minutes per night without stressing the forward group or unproven goaltender Ilya Samsonov.

With the Leafs making it official Wednesday that defenceman Jake Muzzin will miss the rest of the season and playoffs due to his cervical spine injury, it gives them a green light to finally go and replace him on the back end and use up some of the $4-million-plus available in salary cap space. One call Dubas should be making is to Nashville GM David Poile for the availability of defenceman Mattias Ekholm, who wouldn’t be a rental. The 32-year-old still has another three years remaining after this season at $6.25 million on the cap. Centre the deal around the Leafs’ 2024 first-round pick or, if you must, move Knies.

We’ve all heard the hype around Knies. Yes, he’s promising, but I also recall the hype surrounding Rangers forward Jimmy Vesey six years ago. At six-foot-one, 200 pounds, Vesey was the can’t-miss NCAA college star coming out of Harvard. With multiple teams chasing him, he declared himself a total free agent. The Bruins, Rangers and Devils were all drooling back then for this front-line star.

Even the keen eye of Mark Hunter and the Maple Leafs were desperate to sign him. They strategically offered Vesey’s brother, Nolan, a contract — having drafted him in the sixth round in 2014 — even though he was never in their plans. The added incentive didn’t work. Vesey declined Toronto’s attempt to entice him with family ties and signed with the Rangers. Now closing in on 30, Vesey is still a serviceable player in his second stint in New York but is certainly light-years away from the star player everyone once thought he would be.

My point is this: There are no guarantees with Knies either.

I get that Dubas and Leafs Nation are nervous to trade him or another first-round pick to get the blue line the help they need, but this team is close — and much closer with O’Reilly and Acciari. So why stop now? They’ll be better off throwing their remaining chips into the blue line than to under-commit at the deadline.

It’s time to go bigger or go home.

 

[Dragao6]

Tanev’s been horrific this year.

I was all on the Tanev bandwagon the last few years, but he’s a liability this year

Ur saying he will be cheap? Lol
Not worth a sandin

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

CJ reporting that the price for Ekholm is 2 1st rounders. At that price I'm out.

Friedman says Leafs are one of 2 teams going for Luke Schenn

 

[LeafsFan89]

CJ reporting that the price for Ekholm is 2 1st rounders. At that price I'm out.

Friedman says Leafs are one of 2 teams going for Luke Schenn

The prodigal son returns!

I mean he can't be worse than Benn... Can he? 0.001% improvement over Holl?

 

[TMLAM34]

The prodigal son returns!

I mean he can't be worse than Benn... Can he? 0.001% improvement over Holl?

I wouldn’t even say he’s an improvement over Holl at all.

 

[leafsfan5]

CJ reporting that the price for Ekholm is 2 1st rounders. At that price I'm out.

Friedman says Leafs are one of 2 teams going for Luke Schenn

Is there a tweet/source for this?

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Is there a tweet/source for this?

This is where i saw it.

 

[Judas Tavares]

The Maple Leafs made a big splash in acquiring Ryan O’Reilly. Now it’s time to go all-in, even if it means trading Matthew Knies

Maple Leafs president Brendan Shanahan and GM Kyle Dubas shouldn’t think they’re done ahead of the NHL trade deadline. That defence still needs addressing.

www.thestar.com

If the defence stays as is, envisioning any of Reilly, T.J. Brodie, or Giordano getting hurt isn’t a pretty picture. Who steps in for those minutes? Timothy Liljegren? Rasmus Sandin? Timmins? It doesn’t seem very reassuring. Does trading for a bottom-pair guy like Vancouver’s Luke Schenn ease one’s mind? I’m not sure that does the trick, either.

The downplaying of Liljegren continues but I'm not shocked with the members of our media.

CJ reporting that the price for Ekholm is 2 1st rounders. At that price I'm out.

Friedman says Leafs are one of 2 teams going for Luke Schenn

That price is a joke.

 

[sxvnert]

CJ reporting that the price for Ekholm is 2 1st rounders. At that price I'm out.

Friedman says Leafs are one of 2 teams going for Luke Schenn

2 first rounders can also mean players equivalent to 1sts.

Sandin, Robertson, 3rd/prospect
for
Ekholm @ 50% - 3,125,000 (3yrs remaining)

Rielly Lily
Ekholm Brodie
Giordano Holl

 

[ACC1224]

2 first rounders can also mean players equivalent to 1sts.

Sandin, Robertson, 3rd/prospect
for
Ekholm @ 50% - 3,125,000 (3yrs remaining)

Rielly Lily
Ekholm Brodie
Giordano Holl

You've only listed one there.

 

[The Management]

I know we've mostly been linked to forwards and defensemen, but is there any chance we use our limited cap savings and maybe flip an expendable roster player in order to bring in another goaltender?

Murray should be back, but has a bit of an injury riddled past. If Toronto goes on any kind of extended run, it wouldn't hurt to have the extra insurance. I'm not sure how confident I would be with Samsonov and Woll.

Joonas Korpisalo has had a pretty decent stretch on a bad team in Columbus, and he's on an expiring contract. Varlamov as well, although it looks like the Isles are pushing for a playoff spot.

 

[OVO16]

Friedman was on Tim. and friends yesterday and said the Leafs doesn't look like they are in on Luke Schenn. Out of their price range or something.

Where did this new info come from that says we're one of the two teams in on Schenn?

 

[Magic Man]

I'm pretty interested in Schenn. I preferred Gudas but the cats just won't fall out of the race. Schenn is that type of physical presence that would instantly make Toronto's blueline a nightmare to play against, like Lube did last year.

It would be nice to have him back with the team making a run for the cup after all these years away. I think he would probably push Sandin out. Keefe and Dubes are in love with Holl.

 

[MarMarSab3]

2 first rounders can also mean players equivalent to 1sts.

Sandin, Robertson, 3rd/prospect
for
Ekholm @ 50% - 3,125,000 (3yrs remaining)

Rielly Lily
Ekholm Brodie
Giordano Holl

Like the concept don't like the pairings

Ekholm Liljegren
Reilly Brodie
Giordano Holl

 

[cyris]

I'm pretty interested in Schenn. I preferred Gudas but the cats just won't fall out of the race. Schenn is that type of physical presence that would instantly make Toronto's blueline a nightmare to play against, like Lube did last year.

It would be nice to have him back with the team making a run for the cup after all these years away. I think he would probably push Sandin out. Keefe and Dubes are in love with Holl.

Is having Schenn as a rental worth losing years of Sandin?
Cause I’m pretty sure he asks for a trade in the off season if we sit him in the playoffs again. He was already pretty hard to sign last summer because of doing that.

Though it would be funny to see people make trade proposals to get Sandin back for years cause some Leaf fans have an obsession with former players

 

[MarMarSab3]

Zero interest in Schenn