Trades and Free Agency 2021 | Any day now?

[TMLAM34]

Like I mentioned before, the minimum we’ll probably have to pay for Rakell especially if Anaheim retains would be Kerfoot, Abramov and a 1st.

 

[Clark4Ever]

The more I think about it, the more ridiculous it is for Dubas to be peddling any of our top prospects for a forward. Our forward group is already among the best in the league.

If we can acquire a rental top 9 forward for a 2nd round pick that could make sense, but anyone who's watched this team closely would acknowledge that goaltending has been our most glaring weakness.

If we go into the playoffs with the status quo in goal, we're just setting ourselves up for another disappointment, regardless of what other moves are made.

 

[Advanced stats]

I just don't see why we wouldn't want a retained Hall. There's a glaring hole on the JT-Nylander line that Galchenyuk probably can't fill.

Because Hall isn't someone you go to war with in the playoffs.

Not someone I ever want on the leafs, and I generally value skill over grit.

 

[Menzinger]

The more I think about it, the more ridiculous it is for Dubas to be peddling any of our top prospects for a forward. Our forward group is already among the best in the league.

If we can acquire a rental top 9 forward for a 2nd round pick that could make sense, but anyone who's watched this team closely would acknowledge that goaltending has been our most glaring weakness.

If we go into the playoffs with the status quo in goal, we're just setting ourselves up for another disappointment, regardless of what other moves are made.

One of the reasons why I like the idea of Granlund. Historic trade comparison is a 2nd + 3rd picks. Which I'd happily pay

 

[Menzinger]

I don't know about you guys, but I wouldn't move any of Sandin/Robertson/Amirov for anyone other than Forsberg based on names mentioned so far (maybe Amirov for Ekholm). The potential value those three offer on ELCs is way too important to move for a middle six forward or expiring contract. Amirov's NA availability maybe makes him a little more expendable but the upside is both tantalizing to think about and scary to trade so early.

I'm surprised Dubas' even mentioned the idea of a top prospect. Since most of the most common names being floated don't really seem to be worth it. Unless he's got his eye on a guy people haven't picked up on yet

 

[kb]

The more I think about it, the more ridiculous it is for Dubas to be peddling any of our top prospects for a forward. Our forward group is already among the best in the league.

If we can acquire a rental top 9 forward for a 2nd round pick that could make sense, but anyone who's watched this team closely would acknowledge that goaltending has been our most glaring weakness.

If we go into the playoffs with the status quo in goal, we're just setting ourselves up for another disappointment, regardless of what other moves are made.

It's beyond stupid, actually.

Fix what isn't working. The top-6 is working. The G isn't working. Getting a top-6 and emptying the prospect pool for someone like that is basically trying to get the best looking fantasy team to get swept in the first round again.

 

[shortfuze]

Because Hall isn't someone you go to war with in the playoffs.

Not someone I ever want on the leafs, and I generally value skill over grit.

why not? whats his issue?12 points in 14 games seems to be pretty good.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Still don't quite understand why Boston is turning on DeBrusk

 

[Advanced stats]

why not? whats his issue?12 points in 14 games seems to be pretty good.

His issues are well known. Corner cutter, softer, no defensive awareness, and poor on the boards. We should be looking for a guy the exact opposite of that.

We want a little grit, little goal scoring, responsible, and a puck winner to play with JT and Willy...and probably someone who can pk.
We're trying to build a Stanley cup team, not an all-star team

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

It's beyond stupid, actually.

Fix what isn't working. The top-6 is working. The G isn't working. Getting a top-6 and emptying the prospect pool for someone like that is basically trying to get the best looking fantasy team to get swept in the first round again.

trading for a goalie in the middle of the season isn't a good option either. There's not many available, and there are just no guarantees that it will pan out. Forwards are a lot safer

 

[SeaOfBlue]

trading for a goalie in the middle of the season isn't a good option either. There's not many available, and there are just no guarantees that it will pan out. Forwards are a lot safer

There is a lot of risk sticking with Andersen too though. He is furthest thing from a guarantee and may be the one position that holds us back from winning a Cup right now, especially given the importance of goaltending in the playoffs.

Top 6 LW is not likely winning us a Cup. It will help, but if we only acquire a top 6 LW and get the performances we have been getting from Andersen, we are not winning anything. We may not even get out of the division.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

The more I think about it, the more ridiculous it is for Dubas to be peddling any of our top prospects for a forward. Our forward group is already among the best in the league.

If we can acquire a rental top 9 forward for a 2nd round pick that could make sense, but anyone who's watched this team closely would acknowledge that goaltending has been our most glaring weakness.

If we go into the playoffs with the status quo in goal, we're just setting ourselves up for another disappointment, regardless of what other moves are made.

Ya I really dont get why the leafs would move one of their top prospects for a short term fix. Their ELCs with a projected flat cap for the next 4 years will be crucial.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

There is a lot of risk sticking with Andersen too though. He is furthest thing from a guarantee and may be the one position that holds us back from winning a Cup right now, especially given the importance of goaltending in the playoffs.

Top 6 LW is not likely winning us a Cup. It will help, but if we only acquire a top 6 LW and get the performances we have been getting from Andersen, we are not winning anything. We may not even get out of the division.

I'd rather take the risk that either Campbell takes over or Andersen rebounds than risk giving up significant assets for a goalie who doesn't pan out. Miller had a 0.923 sv% with Buffalo, and the Blues gave up a 1st + Halak for him to have a .897 in a first round exit

 

[Judas Tavares]

I'm wondering if Campbell and Andersen come back and they aren't great and/or run into an injury issue once again, if we need to pay for a guy like Dubnyk.

The issue, I'm assuming, is he would need waivers for the taxi squad, so essentially one of Andersen/Campbell would need to go on LTIR or be included in a trade.

I just have a fear that we continue to see poor play and/or injuries and it is just like ok, enough is enough, we need a healthy and competent starting goalie.

 

[Maplebeasts]

I'd rather take the risk that either Campbell takes over or Andersen rebounds than risk giving up significant assets for a goalie who doesn't pan out. Miller had a 0.923 sv% with Buffalo, and the Blues gave up a 1st + Halak for him to have a .897 in a first round exit

If you ask me I would rather just hold on to our prospects and not bother trading unless the upgrade is massive. By all metrics we are a top tier team right now and should be able to make it out of the division as is. The team should be even better going forward when we have Sandin, Liljegren and Robertson replacing the weak links on the depth chart.

 

[hamzarocks]

There is a lot of risk sticking with Andersen too though. He is furthest thing from a guarantee and may be the one position that holds us back from winning a Cup right now, especially given the importance of goaltending in the playoffs.

Top 6 LW is not likely winning us a Cup. It will help, but if we only acquire a top 6 LW and get the performances we have been getting from Andersen, we are not winning anything. We may not even get out of the division.

We can blame the goalie and ya I usually do blame Andersen for failing to make key saves in elimination games, but the forwards/offense has been epically terrible the past two years

1 goal in game 7 versus the bruins and 0 versus the jackets. Unless we get some goals we won't be winning these games no matter who our goalie is. Adding a good forward allows us to have hopefully a player who can step it up and score when the big guns are being locked down

 

[SprDaVE]

Because Hall isn't someone you go to war with in the playoffs.

Not someone I ever want on the leafs, and I generally value skill over grit.

I think the funny thing here is that they said the same thing about Phil Kessel.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

The more I think about it, the more ridiculous it is for Dubas to be peddling any of our top prospects for a forward. Our forward group is already among the best in the league.

If we can acquire a rental top 9 forward for a 2nd round pick that could make sense, but anyone who's watched this team closely would acknowledge that goaltending has been our most glaring weakness.

If we go into the playoffs with the status quo in goal, we're just setting ourselves up for another disappointment, regardless of what other moves are made.

Completely agree. Keep the cupboards full. Would much rather add a guy like Jenner and keep the likes of Amirov, Robertson, Lilly than pay a boat load for someone like Rakell or Forsberg.

 

[Mattavarner]

Complete overhaul, makeover, for your Leafs roster :

1. Marchand(BOS)-Tavares-Marner
2. Hyman-Staal(CAR)-Duclair(FLA)
3. Foegele(CAR)-Bellemare(COL)-Simmonds
4. Martin(NYI)-Komarov(NYI)-Reaves(VGK)

1. Theodore(VGK)-Carlo(BOS)
2. Pelech(NYI)-Weegar(FLA)
3. MacDermid(LA)-Cernak(TB)

SG Rask(BOS)
BG Reimer(CAR)

---

Boston : Marchand,Carlo,Rask
Carolina : Staal,Foegele,Reimer
NYI : Martin,Komarov,Pelech
Vegas : Theodore,Reaves
Florida : Duclair,Weegar
Colorado : Bellemare
Tampa : Cernak
Los Angeles : MacDermid

Not only did you manage to trade everyone on the team except for 4 guys, without including a single actual trade proposal, but you also managed to make the team incredibly worse while doing so.
Congrats

 

[Bloomberg]

Marchment on Florida's top line.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Marchment on Florida's top line

good for him!! great story that is.

 

[Martin Skoula]

I think the funny thing here is that they said the same thing about Phil Kessel.

To be fair, he found the most success hidden away on a sheltered 3rd line with two defensive grinders. I don't know if we can provide the same kind of environment for Hall. Tavares-Nylander face strong competition and the 3rd tends to get shutdown usage if Hyman is on it.

 

[stickty111]

Marchment on Florida's top line.

Good for him. Wasn't good enough to be on our team.

 

[Menzinger]

To be fair, he found the most success hidden away on a sheltered 3rd line with two defensive grinders. I don't know if we can provide the same kind of environment for Hall. Tavares-Nylander face strong competition and the 3rd tends to get shutdown usage if Hyman is on it.

Though Hall in the past out up great numbers on some terrible Oilers and Devil's teams. He's someone who doesn't need to be sheltered. I think he'd be fine on the Tavares/Nylander line which already gets more offensive than defensive usage

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I'd rather take the risk that either Campbell takes over or Andersen rebounds than risk giving up significant assets for a goalie who doesn't pan out. Miller had a 0.923 sv% with Buffalo, and the Blues gave up a 1st + Halak for him to have a .897 in a first round exit

Well you don't need to pay huge assets to get a rental goalie. Nobody is suggesting moving a 1st to get a rental goalie.

Ullmark likely costs similar to Reimer (4th which became a 3rd). A prospect and this year's 4th should get it done, and then we can move Andersen elsewhere to save some cap and get an asset in return. That cap may allow us not to have to retain as much, and therefore pay a lower price.

If we get Kuemper or Merzlikins, it is a guy who has an extra year of term and still likely won't break the bank for us to acquire, but won't save us as much cap.

I feel like we can do a three-way deal with Edmonton. They get out of that Koskinen's extra year by giving up Samorukov (or equivalent prospect) and their 2022 2nd and get an immediate replacement and upgrade in Andersen, who would not need to quarantine. Edmonton opens up that 4.5 mill next year to pursue whoever they want to be the future in net without worrying about Koskinen, and don't need to worry about having a hole for two weeks. We flip all of that return to the third team (Columbus, Buffalo, Arizona, etc.) plus whatever else we need to include to get the goalie we want and maybe something else.

For example:


G Linus Ullmark
C Curtis Lazar

OUT: Andersen + Engvall + Rasanen


G Mikko Koskinen
LD Dmitri Samorukov
LW Pierre Engvall
2nd round pick 2022 (EDM)

OUT: Ullmark and Lazar


G Frederik Andersen
RD Eemeli Rasanen

OUT: Koskinen, Samorukov, 2022 2nd

We would have 3.9 mill + the 1 mill from Galchenyuk to get a top 6 LW or 3C addition, and all we have sacrificed to this point was Andersen, Engvall, and Rasanen (with Ullmark and Lazar replacing Andersen + Engvall after they quarantine).