Rumor: Trade Thread XVIII: Brace Yourselves. Friday Is Coming.

[DutchShamrock]

I think at worst, they will take the Stewart+ deal for Callahan. Ultimately, we are replacing a 3rd liner, not to understate his importance to the team. Girardi might be here past the deadline unless we get blown away with an offer.

 

[RangerBoy]

Teams don't want to pay players over the Olympic break. Its something like $370,000 for Callahan in salary during the break. The 9th-23rd. McKenzie had said the Rangers wanted some closure on Callahan by today. Brooks wrote the Rangers had not received an offer they liked for Callahan. March 5 is the deadline. The freeze ends on the 23rd which is the day of the gold medal game. The Rangers don't play until the 27th. The first day back was supposed to be the 26th but its the 25th because Carolina at Buffalo was snowed out a few weeks ago.

Girardi is another concern. Dreger reported on Monday the Rangers hoped Girardi would be be done this week but it didn't look good. If G wasn't signed by today,it was not a good sign.

If I were Girardi,I would go to free agency too. He can get 7 years. $6M per.

 

[RangerBoy]

I think at worst, they will take the Stewart+ deal for Callahan. Ultimately, we are replacing a 3rd liner, not to understate his importance to the team. Girardi might be here past the deadline unless we get blown away with an offer.

The Rangers can get more for Girardi. There is only one Girardi out there. With Callahan,there is Vanek,Moulson,Cammalieri,etc. Too many free agent rental wingers. Andy MacDonald is the next best free agent D. The Islanders wanted to trade Vanek by today but they could not find an offer they liked.

 

[Thirty One]

The Rangers can get more for Girardi. There is only one Girardi out there. With Callahan,there is Vanek,Moulson,Cammalieri,etc. Too many free agent rental wingers. Andy MacDonald is the next best free agent D. The Islanders wanted to trade Vanek by today but they could not find an offer they liked.

Making Girardi harder to replace...

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

So basically the Rangers will be unlikely to look 10 inches beyond what's right in front of their face because "anything can happen".

I mean at the end of the day, that probably is how it will go down.

I very much fear the "own rental" - that would be an enormous mistake.

I think at worst, they will take the Stewart+ deal for Callahan. Ultimately, we are replacing a 3rd liner, not to understate his importance to the team. Girardi might be here past the deadline unless we get blown away with an offer.

I hope you can get better than this for Callahan, but if that's the best deal out there, it is still definitely better than letting him walk. I take this deal over the two-rounds-and-out strategy any day of the week. Heck, you might even win the same two rounds with Stewart (or Fast for that matter).

The Rangers can get more for Girardi. There is only one Girardi out there. With Callahan,there is Vanek,Moulson,Cammalieri,etc. Too many free agent rental wingers. Andy MacDonald is the next best free agent D.

Very true. I also would test UFA if I were him. And if I'm the Rangers, perhaps this is the guy who can get me back the #1C prospect...

I'm starting to wonder what a Cally+Girardi package could fetch if you traded them to the same team. Surely, THAT is worth something significant, even if both are rentals...

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

who was the last homegrown UFA they let walk? dont act like its the status quo for this organization to let quality players walk as UFAs. they either trade them before they become NHLers or sign overpriced UFAs, but they dont let UFAs walk. Gaborik is an example of not letting a guy that you have no interest in resigning walk.

Rangers homegrown players making it to UFA is basically uncharted territory for the organization.

When referencing a status quo, I was talking about the all-too-feeble willingness to push off tough decisions in the name of winning now.

 

[DelZottoHitTheNetJK]

Perron is not worth Stepan, sorry.

Another guy with little to no upside and not a gamebreaker. He's a good top but certainly not elite. We get older and less diverse. He is overall, not as important as Stepan.

Always smart to point to other teams fans overvaluing their own players as well. Especially since we recently saw what Perron's value was. A consensus bust in Pajaarvi (who again is turning 23 and has done basically nothing thus far) and a late 1st rounder.

You realize stepan on his own would be worth well more then a bust prospect and a late 1st round pick....come on man

The irony is hilarious

 

[Ail]

This is going to be a long Olympics.

For so, so many reasons.

Hunker down m8s.

 

[bubba5]

I guess we are all hoping USA gets knocked out early, right?

Sweden too!

 

[shoves]

btw: Falk < Stu. Hehehehe. Trade Falk as rental for a low pick

(i know very few of you will agree)

 

[nyrleetch]

i hope he would be traded because if they go on a losing streak the 1st excuse will be. is the Callahan rumors a distraction for the team??


i just hope he does not get hurt...and i hope Rangers trade him if they cant resign him to a REASONABLE contract

Agreed. Couple of reasons. Would rather get this whole thing over with. Don't want Cally getting hurt over the Olympics, I doubt we re-sign him, and at this rate if we do it would be an overpayment. I know he's a fan favorite and captain, but I think it's time to move on.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Dan Girardi upping his value going into the break.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I gotta admit, the first thought that crossed my mind when I saw Girardi not only on the PP, but being hyper-aggressive offensively was "showcase".

IMO tonight was a great example of why I would lock Girardi up at $5.5M. But who knows where that really stands.

 

[Vitto79]

btw: Falk < Stu. Hehehehe. Trade Falk as rental for a low pick

(i know very few of you will agree)

You realize they need a 7th d in case of injury right? Send him down for conditioning over the next 2 wks in ct

 

[Ola]

Sweden too!

Norway and Zucc scares me the most. He is the only guy they have...

 

[shoves]

You realize they need a 7th d in case of injury right? Send him down for conditioning over the next 2 wks in ct

Yes, of course. But I want Stu as that 7th D. Or McIlrath

 

[I Eat Crow]

Bickel sucks. Worst player to don the blue since before the first lock out. I hope I never see him again. I happily forgot he even existed until I read this thread.

Back on topic, it's looking more and more like we're going to retain Callahan and Girardi or lose one or both for nothing in July. I don't see Sather trading either for a rental return unless a desperate GM offers something stupid. Like it or not, we're making a run and will be buyers. Unfortunately, I see Sather acquiring a Heatley or a Hemsky for a pick to round out the top 9 and bump somebody down. I wouldn't mind renting someone like Tallinder to play with Klein. I'd be more confident with him than Moore in the playoffs.

 

[RangerBoy]

Dreger tweeted that stuff late yesterday about the Rangers and he was on the NHL network after the Canes game. Its was the same info. There is a deal to be made with Girardi and the Rangers on a new contract. However if Girardi is looking to test free agency then the Rangers will move him. The Rangers need Girardi to sign the contract. Callahan needs to lower his expecations if he wants to stay here. The Rangers are much closer to get something done with Girardi. Callahan and the Rangers aren't speaking the language. Management is going to trade him. With G it sounds like he is close but is afraid to commit. If he wants to test the market they will trade him. For almost three weeks the reports have been the Rangers will sign G. Nothing. AV said yesterday the Rangers have decisions to make on both of those players. He gave a state of the Rangers when wasn't asked about it and hinted the uncertainty of both players plus Henrik has tied the Rangers hands.

 

[Vitto79]

Yes, of course. But I want Stu as that 7th D. Or McIlrath

Dude we all know Bickel is horrible . He's out of the organization next yr. he's not even a call up uption. Allen, mcilrath and even vets Johnson and syvret ahead of him

 

[Vitto79]

Dreger tweeted that stuff late yesterday about the Rangers and he was on the NHL network after the Canes game. Its was the same info. There is a deal to be made with Girardi and the Rangers on a new contract. However if Girardi is looking to test free agency then the Rangers will move him. The Rangers need Girardi to sign the contract. Callahan needs to lower his expecations if he wants to stay here. The Rangers are much closer to get something done with Girardi. Callahan and the Rangers aren't speaking the language. Management is going to trade him. With G it sounds like he is close but is afraid to commit. If he wants to test the market they will trade him. For almost three weeks the reports have been the Rangers will sign G. Nothing. AV said yesterday the Rangers have decisions to make on both of those players. He gave a state of the Rangers when wasn't asked about it and hinted the uncertainty of both players plus Henrik has tied the Rangers hands.

They can sign players over the break, I believe girardi wants to stay and still think it's done soon

 

[cd211]

Dreger tweeted that stuff late yesterday about the Rangers and he was on the NHL network after the Canes game. Its was the same info. There is a deal to be made with Girardi and the Rangers on a new contract. However if Girardi is looking to test free agency then the Rangers will move him. The Rangers need Girardi to sign the contract. Callahan needs to lower his expecations if he wants to stay here. The Rangers are much closer to get something done with Girardi. Callahan and the Rangers aren't speaking the language. Management is going to trade him. With G it sounds like he is close but is afraid to commit. If he wants to test the market they will trade him. For almost three weeks the reports have been the Rangers will sign G. Nothing. AV said yesterday the Rangers have decisions to make on both of those players. He gave a state of the Rangers when wasn't asked about it and hinted the uncertainty of both players plus Henrik has tied the Rangers hands.

G will sign.. cally stance is way to high, IMO he has the ultimate decision to stay or go..

Idk how Dreger can say Hank has tied their hands, its a lot of money but hes been one of the best for last 5 years+ and will be for a number of years moving fwd.. all said and done hes prob still a HOF and top 10 goalie all time with or without a cup. He's worth the cash he got, but with a richards buyout and not signing one of cally or g we have like 25-30m in capspace to do whatever..

only thing scary is Richards.. yeah on here we all keep saying we'll buy him out and this and that.. but honestly i can see management keeping him around.. with noone really available and centers hard to come by, and the dolan factor of not wanting to throw money at a buyout and declare another FA signing a bust.. he might be back

 

[NernieBichols]

Dreger tweeted that stuff late yesterday about the Rangers and he was on the NHL network after the Canes game. Its was the same info. There is a deal to be made with Girardi and the Rangers on a new contract. However if Girardi is looking to test free agency then the Rangers will move him. The Rangers need Girardi to sign the contract. Callahan needs to lower his expecations if he wants to stay here. The Rangers are much closer to get something done with Girardi. Callahan and the Rangers aren't speaking the language. Management is going to trade him. With G it sounds like he is close but is afraid to commit. If he wants to test the market they will trade him. For almost three weeks the reports have been the Rangers will sign G. Nothing. AV said yesterday the Rangers have decisions to make on both of those players. He gave a state of the Rangers when wasn't asked about it and hinted the uncertainty of both players plus Henrik has tied the Rangers hands.

AV's comments came in the pre-game presser? I'd like to listen to what ur referring to

 

[RangerBoy]

AV's comments came in the pre-game presser? I'd like to listen to what ur referring to

You can read them

“Glen and I discuss our team and our team dynamics on a daily basis,†Vigneault said. “Him and Jim (Schoenfeld) and Jeff (Gorton) and myself discuss where our team is, where it needs to go. This year, obviously with Hank’s situation (Henrik Lundqvist was finally re-signed to a seven-year, $59.5 million contract extension on Dec. 4) and obviously our captain and Dan, the dynamics have been a little bit different but hopefully everything is going to work out.

“I expect our guys to be professional,†Vigneault said of the uncertainty regarding Callahan and Girardi’s situation, and, to a lesser degree, upcoming UFA Anton Stralman. “It’s part of today’s NHL and our guys have all been extremely professional the way they’ve handled the situation. I expect them to come to the rink, work hard and execute and that’s what they’ve done.â€

http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/...vigneault_addresses_the_state_of_the_rangers/

Coach Alain Vigneault referred for the first time to the uncertainty surrounding Callahan’s and Girardi’s status when he addressed the press prior to Friday’s match.

“We’ve got certain decisions to make on people within our lineup, as everyone knows and has been talking about,†Vigneault said. “Hopefully, once that’s cleared, we’ll have our team like everyone else and we’ll strive to make that final push.â€

Vigneault said that he talks with general manager Glen Sather and assistants Jeff Gorton and Jim Schoenfeld “on a daily basis†concerning personnel matters.

Callahan seems to be at an impasse regarding an extension. Girardi appears to be closer to striking a deal, but negotiations have not progressed over the last week.

It is unusual for players this close to free agency to sign extensions unless they get what they believe the market will bear. There is no indication at this point that either is amenable to leaving money on the table in order to remain with the Rangers.

http://nypost.com/2014/02/08/rangers-stand-pat-heading-into-olympic-break/

Until the Rangers find out where they stand with Callahan and Girardi,the team will remain in limbo.

 

[NernieBichols]

You can read them



http://blogs.northjersey.com/blogs/...vigneault_addresses_the_state_of_the_rangers/





http://nypost.com/2014/02/08/rangers-stand-pat-heading-into-olympic-break/

Until the Rangers find out where they stand with Callahan and Girardi,the team will remain in limbo.

Thank you RB. That's pretty cut and dry. I'm happy he addressed it and I'm happy with vigneault being the spokesman, I like how he speaks and what he tells you, he's respectful with people, but he also tells it how it is, cut and dry.

Yeah it's on both players now. In terms of G and the rangers, they both would be stupid to part ways, neither side will be happy with the outcome. A) you can't replace him in the short-term which completely throws away the whole season for the rest of the team. B) I wouldn't want trade Girardi for Niskanen in the line-up long term, or whoever you bring in. I don't like that trade off, I don't know how you effectively replace what Girardi is or does.

With Callahan, I have a hard time talking just straight practically about him, him and G, and then staal and dubi, they represented to me everything the rangers weren't for so many of my teenage years. Jags was Jags, Straka, Nylander, Rucinsky, Rosy, Shanahan, these guys played well, but those 4 kids and hank, that changed the tides of the rangers organization. So much of what has come since then, is a product of the culture and atmosphere that became the rangers. So, Im biased. But if Callahan wants to stay, he is going to have to decide that getting the top dollar he can or winning in negotiations, or getting his credit and due where maybe he felt he hasn't truly from the godfather Sather, isn't what deep down drives him.

If he has an eye on a certain location or he truly isn't englamored with the rangers way of doing things. Then by all means, but if he wants to stay, he gonna make some concessions.

 

[Jackpot]

To bad what they're using as "what the market will bear" is the "overpayment" standard. Especially in a 3rd liner such as Callahan. In big games against division rivals is where you need to shine, didn't see it in Callahan's case, which has become the "norm" of late, rather than the exception ..