Makes sense. Nobody wants to risk trading for a player who could be injured in Sochi, or pay players to sit at home and watch the olympics on their TV.
-
Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
- Status
LORDE
I am Lorde, YA YA YA
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
LORDE
I am Lorde, YA YA YA
If the deal wasn't there I'm fine w keeping him until the deadline but still feel he %100 needs to be moved if he won't drop his demands enough.
No NHL team is going to get rid of good assets for a player playing in the Olympics until the Olympics are over in risk of injury.
Funny, because Edmonton fans want nothing to do with Perron for Stepan
We would be extremely lucky to get a Perron type player for Stepan
Perron is not worth Stepan, sorry.
Another guy with little to no upside and not a gamebreaker. He's a good top but certainly not elite. We get older and less diverse. He is overall, not as important as Stepan.
Always smart to point to other teams fans overvaluing their own players as well. Especially since we recently saw what Perron's value was. A consensus bust in Pajaarvi (who again is turning 23 and has done basically nothing thus far) and a late 1st rounder.
You realize stepan on his own would be worth well more then a bust prospect and a late 1st round pick....come on man
What if the same offers are there at the deadline? It's possible the Rangers aren't going to get the slam dunk offer that fans on this board propose, daily.
I think IF Callahan is traded posters/fans are going to be pissed at the return. I don't think Sather is pushing for prospects as much as he's pushing for NHL players.
The same posters that say Callahan is a 3rd liner, he's beat up, he isn't the same player, etc etc are the same posters that expect Callahan to be traded for a top prospect ++++
It doesn't add up. I think in the end on March 5th Callahan and Girardi are Rangers, probably both without a contract. That's my uneducated guess.
I wonder if Dolan is pressuring Sather not to make a deal. Dolan has to have an opinion on what's going on. I know Sather runs the Rangers with almost complete impunity but it's not an unreasonable question to wonder where Dolan stands.
pld459666
Registered User
Faster, better defensively, slightly more physical (although they are both somewhat light in that area) and Statsny is just slightly behind Boyle in terms of Faceoffs which means MUCH better than Brad Richards.
Additionally one of them at 34 years old to start the 14-15 season and already fading cannot be counted on to provide 50-60 level production while the other one at 28 to start the 14-15 season is more likely to maintain the 50-60 point production for at least the next 4-6 years.
What if the same offers are there at the deadline? It's possible the Rangers aren't going to get the slam dunk offer that fans on this board propose, daily.
I think IF Callahan is traded posters/fans are going to be pissed at the return. I don't think Sather is pushing for prospects as much as he's pushing for NHL players.
The same posters that say Callahan is a 3rd liner, he's beat up, he isn't the same player, etc etc are the same posters that expect Callahan to be traded for a top prospect ++++
It doesn't add up. I think in the end on March 5th Callahan and Girardi are Rangers, probably both without a contract. That's my uneducated guess.
I wonder if Dolan is pressuring Sather not to make a deal. Dolan has to have an opinion on what's going on. I know Sather runs the Rangers with almost complete impunity but it's not an unreasonable question to wonder where Dolan stands.
I think thats a good guess.
From the organization's standpoint, I think its stupid and just creates uncertainty going forward, buts its status quo for how they operate.
What if the same offers are there at the deadline? It's possible the Rangers aren't going to get the slam dunk offer that fans on this board propose, daily.
I think IF Callahan is traded posters/fans are going to be pissed at the return. I don't think Sather is pushing for prospects as much as he's pushing for NHL players.
The same posters that say Callahan is a 3rd liner, he's beat up, he isn't the same player, etc etc are the same posters that expect Callahan to be traded for a top prospect ++++
we will probably get a 1st and a prospect or player. not some mega deal.
that would be horrible asset management. both guys would walk for nothing.
i wonder if Dolan knows he owns the rangers. seriously he is only interested in the knicks, he lets his buddy glen handle the rangers. Dolan has little to no input on the rangers because he doesnt know anything about hockey.
i hope he would be traded because if they go on a losing streak the 1st excuse will be. is the Callahan rumors a distraction for the team??
i just hope he does not get hurt...and i hope Rangers trade him if they cant resign him to a REASONABLE contract
who was the last homegrown UFA they let walk? dont act like its the status quo for this organization to let quality players walk as UFAs. they either trade them before they become NHLers or sign overpriced UFAs, but they dont let UFAs walk. Gaborik is an example of not letting a guy that you have no interest in resigning walk.
JimmyG89
Registered User
- May 1, 2010
- 10,136
- 9,012
I think Brass was impacted by playing with the lower lines early. Playing with Pyatt and Pouliot early was killer to anyone. Playing with Zuke has helped a lot, but I think him with a guy like Kreider can work. Stepan needs someone with some wheels on the wing. Brass is a better skater. Imo, Hags works great with Nash and Step, but I think right now it would be tough to break brass line up. Richards line is working well recently as well. No line should be broken after 1 game of being ineffective. The 4th line works well right now too.
Thirty One
Safe is safe.
- Dec 28, 2003
- 28,981
- 24,357
What if the same offers are there at the deadline? It's possible the Rangers aren't going to get the slam dunk offer that fans on this board propose, daily.
I think IF Callahan is traded posters/fans are going to be pissed at the return. I don't think Sather is pushing for prospects as much as he's pushing for NHL players.
The same posters that say Callahan is a 3rd liner, he's beat up, he isn't the same player, etc etc are the same posters that expect Callahan to be traded for a top prospect ++++
It doesn't add up. I think in the end on March 5th Callahan and Girardi are Rangers, probably both without a contract. That's my uneducated guess.
I wonder if Dolan is pressuring Sather not to make a deal. Dolan has to have an opinion on what's going on. I know Sather runs the Rangers with almost complete impunity but it's not an unreasonable question to wonder where Dolan stands.
I mostly agree with you. I think most of the board will be pissed at the return we get if we trade Callahan. I think the best we get is either 1st and a decent prospect (like a bottom 6 player) or a second and a good but not great prospect (like a middle 6 player).
But I really think that teams will continue to low ball Sather and Sather just stays put, because Cally is worth more to this team than
than what teams are offering. Whether people want to admit it or not this team is a pretty good team. Not great but definitely capable of winning a round or two in the PO's.
Also a GM doesn't want to send a wrong message to the current team by trading away assets for the future while neglecting his current players while they are in the thick of a playoff hunt. This isn't an EA game this is real life. And as great as picks and prospects are, most don't pan out. Unlike video games, the athletes have minds and feelings and it sends a bad message to trade away players for anything less than a great return in the middle of a playoff run. Especially since half the team needs to be resigned.
As for Girardi, it seems they are so close that I don't see how he doesn't get resigned before July 1.
Better question is "Who was the last top tier homegrown UFA they signed"? Especially in the cap era. They have shown with Lundqvist and offers to Cally and Girardi that they will be pro-active, bur Glen doesn't have too much history to look at. This is uncharted territory and nothing he does would surprise me.
I have said all along and continue to believe they will both be Rangers and play out their contracts. I just don't think the packages that will be available will be anywhere near as lucrative as some thingk (especially Callahan).
As much as many will point out that it's poor asset management Although you may consider it poor asset management, this team is in the race and has a chance to do something in the playoffs. No way Cally is being dealt to a contender for a low 1st rounder and mid range prospect.
Trades like the ones propsoed with the Blues where we get a viable replacement NOW could work though.
HatTrick Swayze
Just Be Nice
So basically the Rangers will be unlikely to look 10 inches beyond what's right in front of their face because "anything can happen".
I mean at the end of the day, that probably is how it will go down.
I mean at the end of the day, that probably is how it will go down.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
- Oct 8, 2010
- 80,067
- 17,708
It's seemed as though from as early as Monday/Tuesday that the Olympic roster freeze would pass with no moves being made. Look around the league. It's not as if other teams scrambled today and made significant moves. The only trade that occurred was a minor league trade.
The trade deadline is still upcoming, and if Callahan/Girardi aren't signed at that point, I think that's when a move should be expected, which is what McKenzie has been saying for a few days now.
I'm sure teams didn't want to pony up a ton of assets for Callahan only to have him get hurt in the Olympics.
I haven't completely given up hope that the Rangers will make a sensible move with Callahan and Girardi if both are holding out for free agency. Had to figure that the roster freeze deadline was a pipe dream given the risk for injury and the fact that players are still being paid through the break.
BBKers
Registered User
Cap space is a rare commodity this strange year (due to the decrease in space)
Especially on many teams that would like to trade
Deals will go down very late
Be so certain
Thirty One
Safe is safe.
- Dec 28, 2003
- 28,981
- 24,357
- Status
