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Callahan is guaranteed nothing come July. Just because some GM says he'll pay 6.5 in February doesn't mean they cant change their tune. Number of things can change from now til then.
What Callahan is asking for he will never get from a contender. A small market team is another story though and you can piss away any aspirations of winning the cup as a player.
I wonder if this garbage FO even considered packagin DZ and Cally together for a significantly upgraded player or package? That'd require foresight and actual planning so I guess I already know the answer. Is it true Girardi is only looking for 6 x 5.5? That's a really good deal. If it's true and we somehow don't get that done it'd be really bad.
I have a feeling Callahan is going to come down to something like 6x 6.25 but Sather will want it to feel like a win so he will want it to be down to something like 6 x 5.85. It's not a win in his head unless it goes below 6 mil. 6 x 5.85 would be ok with me.
Drury got 5 x 7 and he was a center, had actually won, wasn't even a ranger, had scored more and more often especially in that season. Even with the cap rising 5 x 7 is an overpay but I could deal with that too even though it made much more sense on Drury (and we all know how that turned out). But when you look at it that way it makes Callahan's 7 x 7 (scratch that 7 x 7+) all the more frustrating and head scratching
I have a feeling Callahan is going to come down to something like 6x 6.25 but Sather will want it to feel like a win so he will want it to be down to something like 6 x 5.85. It's not a win in his head unless it goes below 6 mil. 6 x 5.85 would be ok with me.
Drury got 5 x 7 and he was a center, had actually won, wasn't even a ranger, had scored more and more often especially in that season. Even with the cap rising 5 x 7 is an overpay but I could deal with that too even though it made much more sense on Drury (and we all know how that turned out). But when you look at it that way it makes Callahan's 7 x 7 (scratch that 7 x 7+) all the more frustrating and head scratching
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If so, we should start rebuilding the roster. He's not a 1 spot center now, wont be next year neither.
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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shoves
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I dont know. Is there anyone who knows more about availability and value of players around the league that knows who we could get for Steps (and maybe a 3rd/4th pick)?
The Lunatic Fridge
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Pshh for a second i thought today was the trade deadline...just a roster freeze. We still have a month of this rumor non sense to go.
Giglio NYR15
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If I am wrong gonna guess they sign Stastny and Stepan is the 2nd line C. Brassard 3 and either resign Moore or give Lindberg the 4th line.
With that though it blocks Miller and he needs to play ideally as a C
Callahan already compromised to seven years. He will get seven as a free agent. Its a business. The Rangers and Bartlett spent the last two days discussing the contract. Nothing was accomplished. Callahan is better off waiting until July. Lundqvist got seven and $8.5M per. Plus a NMC. Lundqvist wanted eight years. He wasn't taking less than seven.
eco's bones
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Well you know--Duchene is one thing-Spezza is another. Not sure Stepan could bring back either on his own but I wouldn't trade him for Spezza anyway--he's too ****ing old and gets banged up too much besides making too much money. I doubt whether Stepan on his own gets us Duchene. It would be nice to know who exactly you have in mind. Top line centers don't grow on trees.
Any case I've been watching the Rangers for a while. I remember when we had Marc Savard for instance. He wasn't really a top line center until some time after he left us. Sometimes you have to wait for a player to become what they're going to become. Savard and Stepan IMO have a lot in common--neither very big or particularly fast skaters--more cerebral set up plays types. Savard had a bit more edge--sneaky agitating stuff. Stepan a little more size.
charliemurphy
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I'd like to genuinely know / learn more
At what point do they become contenders?
51% against any other playoff team?
So whomever they meet up with they are at least a 1% favorite?
Guess it could be 50.0001 but for arguments sake.
My own non math take, I think the Rangers would have two beat at least two teams who are considered better than they are to win the Cup. At least by Vegas odds (which are based on bets made I believe so it's not like it's an exact science) the Rangers are ranked 9th. They would most likely have to go thru at least one of Boston, Pitt, Tampa, then go through one of Hawks, Blues, Ducks, Sharks, Kings who all have better odds.
I do not think that has anything to do with probability and not even math other than basing those rankings on what the people betting money are doing, but I tend to agree with those rankings. I think those are the teams who are actually a little bit or maybe even quite a bit better than the Rangers.
I would think those teams could go out early, a lower odds team beats a higher odds team, and the Rangers face a lesser opponent or two, but at that point is that opponent really lesser? The odds would change I think?
I guess to each their own, but I'm just not sure I see it this year, I think there are just better teams in both the East and West and the Rangers would have to beat the odds at least twice to win a cup and my non math brain says that is low on the probability scale.
Sorry if that did not make any sense.
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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I had a dream that the Rangers traded Stralman to the Leafs for Petr Nedved and David Vyborny, so I'd keep my eye on that one today.
well i had a dream Rangers signed Nedved after this years olympics based on his performance to a contract for the rest of the year
ArPanet
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The Rangers mgmt will be meeting over the summer to examine all options regarding Stepan, I have to believe.
1 is this year an aberration or what they can expect moving forward;
2 Why is Stepan having such a dismal season;
3 If he turns it around next season, what's the situation going to be like trying to settle on a new contract
4 Is Stepan self motivated enough to become what many think he is capable of
5 is the game moving away from smart slow guys
6 does he fit what the Rangers are trying to become
I wouldn't be surprised if he is traded in the summer...I also won't be surprised if Richards will be retained, so, in other words, anything can happen, I guess, including a trade from way far out if nowhere.
Or, everything above is completely wrongo...
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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If they feel the game is moving away from smart, slow guys, why would they keep Richards?
HatTrick Swayze
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Stepan needs to go see Gary Roberts this summer. His conditioning does not look up to where it should be. Even compared to where he was 3-4 years ago. He should be peaking physically.
AlternateSideParking
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If an old, broken Brendam Morrow cost Shero, what it cost, Sather will get a return that will be acceptable on paper.
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