Rumor: Trade Thread XVI: Callahan looking for $6.85M+ AAV?

[wafflepadsave]

I'd do cally straight up for the Isles 1st round pick. That should be a top 10 selection.

Yes maybe that pick could be available. We need a center badly!

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

I give Zucc 4x4.

I don't know of Brassard is in the plans for the future of this team.

Me neither, but then we have Stepan (who's proving to be more of a 2AC), Boyle and Moore at C (if we re-sign them). Do we think Miller is ready for a top-six C role? 'Cause I don't even like him at C... then what? Stastny? (a more consistent version of Stepan), Thornton? (37), Legwand (not a top-six C, and NSH will re-sign him)... if I'm right, way off on my facts today! lol

 

[haveandare]

He gets flak because he's not really a good hockey player for the Blues. But yeah, inconsistency plays a huge role for that flak too. I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole. Give me one of their top prospects or get Atkinson from the Jackets.

Edit: Wow looked at Atkinson's stats. Yeah, I doubt the Jackets move him for a rental Callahan. Best time would've been to acquire him last offseason.

If the return is Stewart +, I'd rather have a decent pick + personally. Stewart just doesn't bring enough in terms of production to justify his apparent attitude and motivation issues.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

I would love guys like Girgensons, Ristolainen, Armia, McNabb Grigorenko or Pysyk...but that's wishful thinking. They won't give up even one of those guys for Callahan.

 

[CaptDenisPotvin]

I'd do cally straight up for the Isles 1st round pick. That should be a top 10 selection.

Correction...buffalo has either the islanders 2014 or 2015 first round pick. If the 2014 pick is a top 5 pick, the isles will give them their 2015 pick instead...its the islanders decision

 

[jniklast]

I give Zucc 4x4.

I don't know of Brassard is in the plans for the future of this team.

I think Brassard should be re-signed to a two year deal with a slight rise over his QO. He has really helped our PP (obviously along with Zucc) and adds skill which is something our lineup lacks - especially with Richards getting bought out.

 

[NHRangerfan]

Ryan Callahan may have the most intangibles in the league. Look at what the Olympic committee said of him.

Think they said they same thing about Drury for the Vancouver Olympics.

 

[NHRangerfan]

One captain pizza maker is enough for my liking

Winner, winner, chicken dinner

 

[Matt4776]

I would love guys like Girgensons, Ristolainen, Armia, McNabb Grigorenko or Pysyk...but that's wishful thinking. They won't give up even one of those guys for Callahan.

I think if they agree to a contract with Callahan, we could get Grigs out of them. They have Hodgson, Ennis, and Girgensons who projects to be a center eventually. They are VERY weak on the wings.

 

[Killem Dafoe]

I would love a young player like Toffoli. A young player with top 6 potential. I don't want a filler, or a player of the same age with some scoring ability. If we are going to trade our captain, (which I really would prefer we didn't, but can understand the nature of the business) It really does have to be for a young talent and not a guy like Stewart.

Since he's a rental, we might have to add so certain deal and that's alright with me so long as it's not compromising our prospect pool.

 

[Kwayry]

It's pretty obvious that Gorton is having more say. The focus on size (McGinn, Stewart rumors) is his IMO. I kinda agree with it. I am curious to see how it plays out.

 

[mike14]

Correction...buffalo has either the islanders 2014 or 2015 first round pick. If the 2014 pick is a top 5 pick, the isles will give them their 2015 pick instead...its the islanders decision

really? even with potentially McDavid on the table?

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

It's pretty obvious that Gorton is having more say. The focus on size (McGinn, Stewart rumors) is his IMO. I kinda agree with it. I am curious to see how it plays out.

I don't disagree with Gorton's philosophy, but Chris Stewart isn't the right type of player because of his very inconsistent and streaky play as I reiterated in a previous post.

And do you mean Jamie McGinn?

 

[Kwayry]

I don't disagree with Gorton's philosophy, but Chris Stewart isn't the right type of player because of his very inconsistent and streaky play as I reiterated in a previous post.

And do you mean Jamie McGinn?

Yeah, according to Brooks.

Sources have told The Post the Rangers have interest in Colorado’s 25-year-old left wing Jamie McGinn, though it is unclear whether this would be connected to a potential Callahan deal or whether it is independent of such.

 

[CaptDenisPotvin]

really? even with potentially McDavid on the table?

Yeah you gotta understand anyone other than a McDavid type of player isnt gonna help for another 2-3 years from 2015....We gotta get something done in that time or the next big Tavares contract will be with another team.

 

[Ola]

I think Brassard should be re-signed to a two year deal with a slight rise over his QO. He has really helped our PP (obviously along with Zucc) and adds skill which is something our lineup lacks - especially with Richards getting bought out.

If we have any cap space available, I think he should be resigned to a way longer contract than 2 years.

Slats is so clueless with these things. Without a plan. Either you believe in a player, or you don't. You save pennies on those damed bridge contracts. 300-500k for a year or two, then he goes around spending it on the Pyatts of the league. Instead he could pay a mill or even a mil and a half more on a 5-6 year deal where you save a ton after the first couple of years.

And the thing is, good hockey players are always moveable. If we lock up Brassard long term we could always move him, especially if we front-load the deal. If we ever want to move him, the longer contract he is on the more valuble he is.

Brass is a bit inconsistent, yes, but he is very talented and he works very hard actually. He helps the PP and he seems to have an easy time to develop chemistry with other players. Who knows if he can take another step like Sharpe, but no matter what he is still valuble. If we are without an elite top 2 line center, Brass helps us compensate with speed and skill deeper in the lineup.

What is there to think twice about?

 

[mike14]

Yeah you gotta understand anyone other than a McDavid type of player isnt gonna help for another 2-3 years from 2015....We gotta get something done in that time or the next big Tavares contract will be with another team.

Makes sense, but in that regard aren't you better off moving whichever pick doesn't go to Buffalo for a guy (and I'm not suggesting for Cally or to the Rangers) that is likely to be able to step in within the next 2 seasons rather than hoping that a top 5 pick can step up early?

Hmm, that's all a bit OT I guess...

 

[CaptDenisPotvin]

Makes sense, but in that regard aren't you better off moving whichever pick doesn't go to Buffalo for a guy (and I'm not suggesting for Cally or to the Rangers) that is likely to be able to step in within the next 2 seasons rather than hoping that a top 5 pick can step up early?

Hmm, that's all a bit OT I guess...

From your mouth to god s ears....Wang s wallet would have to open at that point though, another huge huddle

 

[Cassano]

Think they said they same thing about Drury for the Vancouver Olympics.

Drury =/= Callahan?

 

[Kwayry]

If we have any cap space available, I think he should be resigned to a way longer contract than 2 years.

Slats is so clueless with these things. Without a plan. Either you believe in a player, or you don't. You save pennies on those damed bridge contracts. 300-500k for a year or two, then he goes around spending it on the Pyatts of the league. Instead he could pay a mill or even a mil and a half more on a 5-6 year deal where you save a ton after the first couple of years.

And the thing is, good hockey players are always moveable. If we lock up Brassard long term we could always move him, especially if we front-load the deal. If we ever want to move him, the longer contract he is on the more valuble he is.

Brass is a bit inconsistent, yes, but he is very talented and he works very hard actually. He helps the PP and he seems to have an easy time to develop chemistry with other players. Who knows if he can take another step like Sharpe, but no matter what he is still valuble. If we are without an elite top 2 line center, Brass helps us compensate with speed and skill deeper in the lineup.

What is there to think twice about?

The team severely lacks Center depth, it would make sense to lock him up at a reasonable contract now. He can always be upgraded down the road, or he can blossom and you have him on a good contract.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Last thing for the week from me:

A fair trade, in terms of value, for our captain (signed to an extension) is:

Callahan

for

Grigorenko and the Islanders 1st.

or Callahan and Kristo

for

Grigorenko, the Islanders 1st, and Marcus Foligno.

Buffalo loses a center that may never want to play for them and may force his way out within a year. They can draft Reinhart this year with the 1, or conceivably draft McDavid next year for center depth.

That should be the type of package we're looking for.

 

[bmw2004]

Is there any legit rumors that Buffalo is interested in Cally?

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

Buffalo will wait till the offseason if anything it looks like. They have an incredible anount of cap after this year and they'll Defintely bottom out. I don't think they'll move their top prospects and they Defintely won't trade a pick or Girgensons unless it's a severe overpayment that will greatly benefit them through and after said rebuild.

 

[jniklast]

If we have any cap space available, I think he should be resigned to a way longer contract than 2 years.

Slats is so clueless with these things. Without a plan. Either you believe in a player, or you don't. You save pennies on those damed bridge contracts. 300-500k for a year or two, then he goes around spending it on the Pyatts of the league. Instead he could pay a mill or even a mil and a half more on a 5-6 year deal where you save a ton after the first couple of years.

And the thing is, good hockey players are always moveable. If we lock up Brassard long term we could always move him, especially if we front-load the deal. If we ever want to move him, the longer contract he is on the more valuble he is.

Brass is a bit inconsistent, yes, but he is very talented and he works very hard actually. He helps the PP and he seems to have an easy time to develop chemistry with other players. Who knows if he can take another step like Sharpe, but no matter what he is still valuble. If we are without an elite top 2 line center, Brass helps us compensate with speed and skill deeper in the lineup.

What is there to think twice about?

I fully agree with you and would gladly lock up Brassard for longer, the question will be whether he would accept something like 4x4. But if that's doable, then you lock him up. Like I said, we really lack skill and Brassard has that. Should he ever find consistency he could turn into a great 2nd line center, but even if he doesn't he'll be an ok 3rd line C and helping the PP.

 

[wafflepadsave]

If the return is Stewart +, I'd rather have a decent pick + personally. Stewart just doesn't bring enough in terms of production to justify his apparent attitude and motivation issues.

Watched him the other night against Nashville. The verdict was, run far away. There is a reason blues fans want to give him up. Totally not engaged like he was watching the game instead of participating!