Killem Dafoe
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I agree. Would fit in here a lot more than Stewart would for a bunch of reasons.
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I agree. Would fit in here a lot more than Stewart would for a bunch of reasons.
HatTrick Swayze
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He's definitely a tenacious player. Hard worker. Very good skill. Hands, shot, knows what to do with the puck on his stick. I watched him a lot at BC.
However, I would not be so keen on building a roster with Zuccarello and Atkinson on the right side. I know at times we all like to plug our ears, cross our fingers, and tell ourselves that raw skill will always translate to more wins. Until the NHL keeps the whistles active in the playoffs, I think a mix of skill and grit (on all lines, not just your 4th line + a 3rd liner or two) is extremely important. One of my worst fears is that the organization swings the pendulum waaay too far and winds up with a regular season tiger that fizzles when it matters.
Thankfully the next wave at minimum (Fast, Miller, Lindberg) are all able and willing to get their noses dirty.
Ail
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They're not telling us anything we do not already know from watching Callahan in New York. He's a great locker room guy, very professional (almost too professional to make a good captain when it comes to interviews) and a great asset to this team. I don't think this is lost on anyone. Callahan has being an excellent Ranger and will go down as a fan favorite for sure.
With that being said you have to judge a player's future with the team on what the future might look like and not what the past has looked like. It's easy to point to all the things Callahan has done in the past and say, "Why would you ever let him go!?" However if we are to take an unbiased and reasonable perspective on the situation there are definitely questions to be raised about what Callahan can do going forward, and whether or not those things are a.) replaceable by someone else and b.) on par with the money he will be making to do them.
Ail
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Those players also play a position that it is more valuable to have the qualities those players have, and are not as easily replaced. The Rangers know this first hand. If Callahan was a center I would be on board with 7/$42 given the situation in NY at C.
Edit: To clarify, I would be more willing to pay him if he were a C, not necessarily that he is worth that, still.
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Agree 100% on your assessment of Atkinson. I watch CBJ a lot, and in addition to the energy brings, I love the skill set. He's got a sick shot and already knows how to get himself in positions to let it go. He's actually a very underrated playmaker. Outside of size, he's the complete package up front, and if he stays healthy, I see a consistent 25 goal scorer.
On the 2nd point you alluded to, I actually wonder if the NYR brass is thinking the same in their inquiries on Chris Stewart. While I think that would be a disastrous plunge to take, his presence certainly would suddenly make them a surprisingly big group on the wings (even including a guy like Pouliot, who doesn't physically use his size). I like the idea (his skillset is a unique one NYR needs, but Stewart only shows it sporadically), but it's the wrong guy. Of course, the only reason a guy like that is available is because he isn't without warts. Teams fall in love with consistent guys like that and they're unavailable.
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Staal, Girardi, Hank, McD, Hags, Stepan and now Zuccs have all at times been described as guys with 'heart' who also have leadership. If losing Callahan removes the 'heart' from this team, then we are already in a massive hole and are going nowhere anytime soon
Agree with this...and our young guys seem to play with heart to. .also don't forget Nash was a captain in Columbus...so you can argue he has heart
Cally is on the third line and off the PP because of the emergence of Kreider and Zuccarello. Fact is, the Rangers are a deeper team than they have been since the Cally-core emerged. Cally is finally playing in the exact spot he always should have been based on his talent level, but could not because of the dearth of talent on the roster and the way John Tortorella decided to use the talent on the roster.
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I stopped reading when I saw Garrioch wrote it. Even the Girardi numbers are off based on what I've read. And how much more could Brassard possibly get considering his QO is already going to be $3.7 million?
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I take anything Bruce Garrioch says with a grain of salt. I'm more inclined to believe it's more in McKenzie's reported estimation of 6MM firm for 7 years. I don't think Callahan nor Steve Bartlett are foolish enough to have demands that unrealistic. And I understand that you aim high in negotiations.
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No to Columbus. I'm very against trading within the division especially when it's our Captain and he'd reunite with other former players. We'd never hear the end of it.
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This is a bad hockey team.
I'm surprised that CBJ is interested. We already tried a core with Dubi, Cally, AA (and gabby) and even with an insanely hot goalie and better D we didn't make the Final. Why would they think they can replicate or even surpass that?
As a CBJ fan coming in peace and enjoying the discussion you're having I'll say this:
I don't think the CBJ are looking to make a play for Callahan (although he's a great player)
I think they want the other UFA. Dan Girardi. No real evidence to back it up. Just a hunch.
I do think the Rangers scouts were in Columbus to see the CBJ though and not the Panthers. Don't really see any veterans on FLA really worth much to NYR.
If we re-sign our RFA's in Zucc, Kreider, Brassard and Moore that's potentially 5 mil in raises with the bulk going to Zucc. Girardi rumored to be around 2 mil more, Hank more then 1.5 and Stralman possibly around another mil. That's close to 10 mil with the cap only going up 7. Even if Richards is bought out and most of that $ goes to Cally, that's the same team minus Richards. I don't see how Cally can be re-signed even at 5 mil. Even if Boyle and Pouliot walk there isn't much wiggle room. Unless im missing something.
Brooks reported Callahan wants a minimum of $42M for 7 years. McKenzie has reported Callahan wants more than $6M per.
Girardi wants $5.5M per for 6. The Rangers have offered $5.2M per for 6 and $5.7M for 5. Brooks reported those. The Rangers might have to go to $6M per to get Girardi on a 5 year deal.
Brassard is arbitration eligible. Allan Walsh is his agent. He will find a comparable to get his client a decent bump in arbitration. Brassard is one year away from group III. As is Zuccarello. If the Rangers want to re-sign either or both players past next season,it will include group III years.
The Rangers are in a tough spot with many of these players.
The heart of the team got 7 years and $59.5M in December. That guy stirs the Rangers drink.
The Rangers are insane if they are willing to give Callahan $6M per or more for five years.
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