Speculation: Trade Thread Part XII

[Ola]

No they don't. He's not in the same stratosphere and their fans are well aware of it. He's a small offensively dynamic player who may top out as a middle pairing dman but is more likely a bottom pair + top PP dman. I'm 99% sure that virtually every poster whose mentioned Murphy in this thread has confused him with Faulk, who IS very comparable to McD and is valued as such.

Agreed, he also of course has a lot of potential as almost a 1-way offensive minded D, he is really slick with the puck, but he hasn't really stood out at the NHL level yet.

 

[Vitto79]

So could they deal Boyle for a 2nd then trade a pick to get a cheaper PK ,4th liner that may be under contract next yr as well?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

No they don't. He's not in the same stratosphere and their fans are well aware of it. He's a small offensively dynamic player who may top out as a middle pairing dman but is more likely a bottom pair + top PP dman. I'm 99% sure that virtually every poster whose mentioned Murphy in this thread has confused him with Faulk, who IS very comparable to McD and is valued as such.

As a Canes fan, I can say this is spot on. Murphy has some very dynamic offensive skills, but he is nowhere near (nor do I ever think he will be) the level of a guy like McDonagh. Murphy's skating and puckhandling if phenomenal, but he still has a long way to go to be a viable NHL defenseman, both offensively and defensively.

I'm not won't try to speculate on where he may "top out", but he's not in the same league as a McD and I assure you no Canes fans think of him that way.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

i had a horrid dream that Rangers resigned Brian Boyle to a 5 year contract with 2.0 per year with a no trade clause.

 

[TheRightWay]

i had a horrid dream that Rangers resigned Brian Boyle to a 5 year contract with 2.0 per year with a no trade clause.

That wouldn't be an awful deal...?

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

That wouldn't be an awful deal...?

with a no trade clause it would be.. he should not be the type of player that gets one.

 

[Vitto79]

Boyle is gone. I think lol. AV using him less and less but they need a pk face off substitute

 

[slipknottin]

Boyle is gone. I think lol. AV using him less and less but they need a pk face off substitute

Eh? Boyle still usually plays about the same minutes. It was just last game he didnt play as much because they had a lot of offensive zone playoffs.

 

[Vitto79]

Eh? Boyle still usually plays about the same minutes. It was just last game he didnt play as much because they had a lot of offensive zone playoffs.

I read the last 3 games the 4th line is getting less minutes. With that said yea they can't move boyle without getting a pk face off guy to replace him

 

[GAGLine]

with a no trade clause it would be.. he should not be the type of player that gets one.

NTCs don't mean that much. Just gives him a say in where he goes.

 

[bobbop]

This is part of the reason that I think the Rangers will make a move for a d-man with some offensive potential. With Anaheim looking at a cup run, maybe we could move Girardi or Staal for Vatanen+. I think Vatanen would thrive under AV, and it would be a way for us to rebuild on the fly while staying competitive.

Forget about getting Vatanen. He's a top 4 defenseman now on the Ducks. Gifted player.

 

[RangerBoy]

TSN transcript

Pierre LeBrun: One of those contenders looking to add before the trade deadline will be the Anaheim Ducks although you'd wonder what a team that's won 18 of 19 could possibly need.

We're told that they are targeting a right-handed defenceman. That would be the top of their wish-list and one name that I know will have some intrigue is Dan Girardi of the New York Rangers. However, at this point the Rangers are telling teams that they're not moving him, are focused on signing him and are confident at this point that those negotiations will possibly lead to a new deal.

Ryan Callahan is another unrestricted free agent for the Rangers. That negotiation is perhaps not as far down the road, and I don't know if the Rangers can get both done, but Girardi seems more likely.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=441408

Say the Rangers sign Girardi by March 5. If Callahan is unsigned,what happens with him? Brooks wrote a few weeks ago about Callahan being the more expensive signing. Getting both players signed will be very expensive.

Katie Strang tweeted last week about the Rangers talking to Newport about Girardi. Earlier this week,she said in an ESPN chat that there isn't anything going on with Callahan. Long periods of nothing after they speak.

Does SJ have interest in Stralman? Their pro scout JFJ was the Leafs GM when TO selected Stralman in 2005. Anaheim is looking for a righty. Play them against each other. Get back a late #1.

Either Boyle or Moore should be moved. Ideally both.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

Forget about getting Vatanen. He's a top 4 defenseman now on the Ducks. Gifted player.

how about Mat Clark?? his value cant be high.. he is a RH version of Sauer with a much more of a mean streak.













Boyle to Ducks for Beleskey and Clark?? id do that deal.. kills 2 birds with one stone

 

[GAGLine]

TSN transcript



http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=441408

Say the Rangers sign Girardi by March 5. If Callahan is unsigned,what happens with him? Brooks wrote a few weeks ago about Callahan being the more expensive signing. Getting both players signed will be very expensive.

Katie Strang tweeted last week about the Rangers talking to Newport about Girardi. Earlier this week,she said in an ESPN chat that there isn't anything going on with Callahan. Long periods of nothing after they speak.

Does SJ have interest in Stralman? Their pro scout JFJ was the Leafs GM when TO selected Stralman in 2005. Anaheim is looking for a righty. Play them against each other. Get back a late #1.

Either Boyle or Moore should be moved. Ideally both.

I can get on board with that. Stralman will be easier to replace than Girardi.

 

[Jackpot]

Sheldon Souray is done for the season. If the Ducks are desperate for Girardi, or Stralman, I say take advantage of the situation and listen to offers on both..

 

[Samuel Culper III]

how about Mat Clark?? his value cant be high.. he is a RH version of Sauer with a much more of a mean streak.


Boyle to Ducks for Beleskey and Clark?? id do that deal.. kills 2 birds with one stone

Sauer was a righty, by the way. Clark is alright, but possibly not ever an NHL dman so it's not much of a trade to get a guy whose a 6/7 at best.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

I like Stralman, but if the organization has no intention of retaining him past this year then I could get down with trading him to Anaheim for their late 1st.

In that event the Rangers would have to opt to play 5 lhd or look to trade DZ for a rhd.

The writing is on the wall that Girardi will be resigned. Fine. You need to retool somewhere though. Again, I like Stralman, but if you can get that 1st for him... too tempting to pass up.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Sheldon Souray is done for the season. If the Ducks are desperate for Girardi, or Stralman, I say take advantage of the situation and listen to offers on both..

I wouldn't say desperate. They've won 18/19 without Souray having entered the lineup all season. Probably just a want more than a need.

 

[Mikos87]

TSN transcript



http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=441408

Does SJ have interest in Stralman? Their pro scout JFJ was the Leafs GM when TO selected Stralman in 2005. Anaheim is looking for a righty. Play them against each other. Get back a late #1.

Either Boyle or Moore should be moved. Ideally both.

Great find. You just listed 2 1st. round picks and a couple of 2nds. worth of assets coming back.

On Stralman, the Rangers are playing well so it would be hard to move him unless there is a top 4 D coming back. Any trade involving a Ranger D should have that criteria.

Do Miller and Dorsett make Boyle/Moore expendable?

 

[NYR Viper]

I still am on board with moving the players who they don't feel they will re-sign. Boyle, Pouliot, Moore, Girardi, Callahan, Stralman. Who do they want to re-sign?

If they re-sign Girardi, does that mean Stralman will hi UFA?

The organization is pretty high on Dorsett, as they should be. 4th liner who stirs the pot, PK's has some offense in him as well. Fights anyone and everyone. When he returns, move Boyle or Moore. Four 4th liners. Carcillo has been good in his role.

Can the Rangers get Callahan to take a good team first contract without overpaying? Of he won't come down, he has to be moved. You can't lose a player like Callahan without getting something for him.

Does AV feel Pouliot fits his system moving forward? He has been up and down. He has good chemistry with MZA and Brassard. Do they want to keep Brassard? If they feel he won't be here after this year look to move him for a pick. They signed him for nothing but money in the summer. The best way to keep contending is moving off pieces you have signed in UFA for nothing but money and back filling young pieces that way.

 

[Ola]

Anaheim was not good at all against Chicago, didn't look like a contender. Chicago matched up against Vaatanen and took advantage of him on a shift by shift basis.

 

[NYR Viper]

Anaheim was not good at all against Chicago, didn't look like a contender. Chicago matched up against Vaatanen and took advantage of him on a shift by shift basis.

Hiller also looked awful.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Anaheim was not good at all against Chicago, didn't look like a contender. Chicago matched up against Vaatanen and took advantage of him on a shift by shift basis.

They were awful for most of the game but turned it on at the end.

 

[Ola]

They were awful for most of the game but turned it on at the end.

Yeah, and the ref's screwed them and what is one regular season game, etc.

But I still thought they were weak in relation to a Chi going after them hard.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Yeah, and the ref's screwed them and what is one regular season game, etc.

But I still thought they were weak in relation to a Chi going after them hard.

I don't think Boudreau is a good playoff coach.