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welp, looks like the two of us will be the evil 7/8 seeds that upset the top two eh!? I relish these kinds of opportunities lol

I'm curious I feared Kreider very much so after his playoff stint last year. He soooo fast. Where has he fallen short this year? Passing? Vision? Position?

Thanks guys
 
NJDEVIL said:
welp, looks like the two of us will be the evil 7/8 seeds that upset the top two eh!? I relish these kinds of opportunities lol

I'm curious I feared Kreider very much so after his playoff stint last year. He soooo fast. Where has he fallen short this year? Passing? Vision? Position?

Thanks guys
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Effort, compete level and playing tentative. He's coming around finally.
 
NJDEVIL said:
welp, looks like the two of us will be the evil 7/8 seeds that upset the top two eh!? I relish these kinds of opportunities lol

I'm curious I feared Kreider very much so after his playoff stint last year. He soooo fast. Where has he fallen short this year? Passing? Vision? Position?

Thanks guys
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Tortorella hadn't been using him properly, either. Benching the kid for very minor mistakes but giving JT Miller free rein. Sent him down to the AHL, tore it up for a month, and has looked wonderful in the two games since returning.
 
NJDEVIL said:
welp, looks like the two of us will be the evil 7/8 seeds that upset the top two eh!? I relish these kinds of opportunities lol

I'm curious I feared Kreider very much so after his playoff stint last year. He soooo fast. Where has he fallen short this year? Passing? Vision? Position?

Thanks guys
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Fear him you should, esp. after he denied Marty B a shutout with a major highlight shot goal. Thanks Marty for volunteering to be so embarrassed, to be so undressed. Kreider's skating is obvious, his shooting skill we are still finding out. Didn't know his shot could go THERE.
 
I am interested to see how teams try and match those deals by the Pens. Clowe? Klesla? Yandle? Gaborik? Havlat? Boyle? Weiss?

Lots of teams with cap room for this season, not a lot of teams willing to take on next years as well.
 
All I am going to say is that now may be the time to maximize the return on Gaborik. NTC to only 10 teams. Teams like LA and Boston will be looking to respond. I am sure they both offered hefty packages for Iginla. Iginla had a very short list and it seems like Pitt was the place for him.
 
NYR Boyler87 said:
I am interested to see how teams try and match those deals by the Pens. Clowe? Klesla? Yandle? Gaborik? Havlat? Boyle? Weiss?

Lots of teams with cap room for this season, not a lot of teams willing to take on next years as well.
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The great thing for a master like Shero to relish is that your opponents will feel pressure to match you. You sit back and watch them hurt themselves.
 
For those who say Clowe is too slow: was Brandon Prust too slow? Would you take a version of him that is better at fighting with better hands and a better shot?

Noone is saying Clowe can come in, run the PP, and be a consistent offensive difference maker. His lack of production this year is a huge question mark - but there is no $ commitment past this season. For the right price he would be the perfect 3rd liner.

No any trade involving a first or top prospects is not the right price.
 
NYR Boyler87 said:
All I am going to say is that now may be the time to maximize the return on Gaborik. NTC to only 10 teams. Teams like LA and Boston will be looking to respond. I am sure they both offered hefty packages for Iginla. Iginla had a very short list and it seems like Pitt was the place for him.
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Bruins have $6M in cap space next year, and that's if they let Rask, Khudobin, Ference and Horton walk. Horton or Rask alone should eat up most of that. They can buyout Savard's contract, but that only gives them $4M to work with. So they'd have to send a core piece back in the deal for Gaborik, which is something I can't see them doing.

LA has the same problem. There just aren't many (if any) cup contenders this season that can afford Gaborik next year.
 
I would LOVE to sign Clowe in the off-season IF he is asking for something reasonable, say 2.5-3 million/season. However, I am almost 100% sure he gets more than that. He would be a great 2nd/3rd line LWer who can provide size, strength and toughness to this line-up full of skilled guys.

Pyatt + Boyle = Traded

Clowe Signed. Salaries are practically equal.
 
HatTrick Swayze said:
For those who say Clowe is too slow: was Brandon Prust too slow? Would you take a version of him that is better at fighting with better hands and a better shot?

Noone is saying Clowe can come in, run the PP, and be a consistent offensive difference maker. His lack of production this year is a huge question mark - but there is no $ commitment past this season. For the right price he would be the perfect 3rd liner.

No any trade involving a first or top prospects is not the right price.
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Uh, Prust was never slow. Clowe is really really slow and has struggled through injuries year after year. He's the prototypical guy you look at and wonder if his physical style has prematurely hurt his career.

For a song and a dance, sure why not, but I somehow doubt the Rangers are interested if he can't keep up with the rest of his line
 
you sure you guys dont want Dan Boyle. seems to have some JAM. id take him if his contract was 3 mil instead of 6 or whatever he is making...


bad break..






id take Clowe on NYR... he would be the only one to provide grit and toughness who can actually still play a regular shift...




at least he goes to the net... i wish some of current Rangers would do that on the powerplay
 
Trxjw said:
Bruins have $6M in cap space next year, and that's if they let Rask, Khudobin, Ference and Horton walk. Horton or Rask alone should eat up most of that. They can buyout Savard's contract, but that only gives them $4M to work with. So they'd have to send a core piece back in the deal for Gaborik, which is something I can't see them doing.

LA has the same problem. There just aren't many (if any) cup contenders this season that can afford Gaborik next year.
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All the "experts" were saying Boston would re-sign Iginla. If they would have been able to do that, they can afford Gaborik.

If LA moves Stoll they can afford Gaborik as well.
 
Levitate said:
Uh, Prust was never slow. Clowe is really really slow and has struggled through injuries year after year. He's the prototypical guy you look at and wonder if his physical style has prematurely hurt his career.

For a song and a dance, sure why not, but I somehow doubt the Rangers are interested if he can't keep up with the rest of his line
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Call me crazy but I don't think the disparity between the two is that large.
 
Serious question, would anyone mind paying Clowe 3 million/season for 4 years as opposed to Prust 2.5 million/season for 4 years? That would be a contract I could get behind for Clowe.
 
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Serious question, would anyone mind paying Clowe 3 million/season for 4 years as opposed to Prust 2.5 million/season for 4 years? That would be a contract I could get behind for Clowe.
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Oh yeah big time. Would go up to 3.75... but he'd get close to Hartnell money on the open market, and term. Interesting to hear Bob McKenzie say that he wants to go to a place that will play him in the top 6, and would only waive his no trade for that.
 
Mikos87 said:
Oh yeah big time. Would go up to 3.75... but he'd get close to Hartnell money on the open market, and term. Interesting to hear Bob McKenzie say that he wants to go to a place that will play him in the top 6, and would only waive his no trade for that.
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I've scored 0 goals in the NHL this season as well. Can I go play in the top 6 as well?

(Just kidding, for those who think I'm serious)

Don't want Clowe in the top 6. Although he's big, slow, and can't score. Fits this team like a glove.
 
Clowe is taking a paycut? He is making $4M in salary this season. He has enough fans around the NHL in management positions where one of them will step up with a crazy contract which will be Clowe's final contract.
 
RangerBoy said:
Clowe is taking a paycut? He is making $4M in salary this season. He has enough fans around the NHL in management positions where one of them will step up with a crazy contract which will be Clowe's final contract.
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Yeah and he wants to showcase his worth since he isn't getting prime ice time (Burns is playing as a top 6 winger). He may come to NY for cheap leveraging his NTC if he feels he won't get top 6 time in Boston. If he is out of shape, and thats the reason as to his dip in play, then Torts is not playing him double digit minutes a night.

I would kill for Glencross, but he would cost a considerable amount cause of his contract, but then again Feaster is a lame duck, maybe he hooks up his old boys in NY during the fire sale.
 
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