Proposal: Trade Rumours & Proposals Thread: Will we ever get another dman?

[CupofOil]

What would be the additional pieces in a Nuge - Hamonic swap?

Id be interested in Nielsen and Nelson but I'm assuming we'd have to add quite a bit to land Hamonic + Nielsen/Nelson

Nielsen is a pending UFA so I doubt the Oilers have to add much at all to that deal. Nelson? Forget it, can't see the Isles dealing him.
I like the idea of potentially adding Hamonic but he has an extensive injury history and a concussion mixed in there so that would give me pause. Then again, he'll probably fit in with the Oilers MASH unit.

In any event, it's Eklund so....

 

[oil Leaks]

Yeah Mayfield probably tops out as a Gryba type IMO. I wonder if Anders Lee is a guy that they'd part with? Nelson has damn near as many points as RNH does so I'm not sure that they'd add him to Hamonic unless we added something significant to RNH.

Anders Lee is definitely more physical compared to Nelson.

 

[oStealthKiller*]

My bad, yeah that would make a lot more sense for us although IIRC he's been playing mostly wing in NY? I have him listed as a LW/RW/C on my keeper league so he a can play all 3 forward positions.

I'm not to sure about his center ability but if you say he can play all 3, that's even better. I just think he's the perfect compliment to our top 6 and ham is a good add on d. Id prefer rnh in a packagel for a true #1, but if this rumour is true why not target a big top 6 forward to come back with a #2.5 d. If he is best on wing, we can sign a suitable 3c in fa

 

[Stoneman89]

Yup.

Hall-Draisaitl-Kassian
Coyle-McDavid-Yakupov/Eberle

Not LA Kings territory, but certainly able to hang in there with them, I think.

 

[oil Leaks]

If we acquire Lee

Hall-Drai-Kassian
Lee-McDavid-Yak

But getting Coyle would be nice too. Considering he has a long term contract, with a low cap hit.

 

[McIce Whole]

I would rather deal Eberle in a deal for Hamonic than Nuge but that's just my opinion. If we're dealing away RNH, I want someone better than Hamonic.

 

[Jumptheshark]

The only thing about the Ek rumour I find amusing is the fact every Jan he does this--spits out 1 or 2 rumours a week right after the new year to get more hits to his site to get more AD revenue. IN this case--he is repeating what other people have been saying since nov

 

[DreamTheatre]

No way should we do RNH for Hamonic +. Eberle should be the guying going instead.

 

[Why]

Serious question, has Ekland ever been right? Other than breaking something that's already out there from a Friedman or someone reputable

 

[dustrock]

Serious question, has Ekland ever been right? Other than breaking something that's already out there from a Friedman or someone reputable

Didn't he get Jones for RyJo correct?

 

[booyakasha]

Eberle is better than Ryan Nugent-Hopkins..not sure why so many are saying, " Ebs rather than Nuge"

 

[MPStoEberletoHall*]

No way should we do RNH for Hamonic +. Eberle should be the guying going instead.

We are going to have to accept the fact that Eberle won't get Hamonic. Hamonic is a legit #2 guy imo.

 

[booyakasha]

We are going to have to accept the fact that Eberle won't get Hamonic. Hamonic is a legit #2 guy imo.

What does NY want with RNH?...they have centres.\By all accounts they want a D back to help in replacing the loss of Hamonic.

RNH doesn't get you Hamonic either.

 

[Spawn]

I'd be pretty surprised if the Oilers were getting two major parts for RNH (Hamonic/Nelson or Brodin/Coyle) without very substantial additions from an Oiler perspective. Justin Schultz isn't going to cut it.

 

[Yeah15]

Eberle is better than Ryan Nugent-Hopkins..not sure why so many are saying, " Ebs rather than Nuge"

If Chiarelli values Eberle more than RNH then we are in very big trouble.

RNH doesn't get you Hamonic either.

Maybe it's just me, but I think NYI would be complete morons to turn down RNH for Hamonic. The guy wants out, and he's being drastically overrated ever since the trade request went public. RNH is still 22, on a decent long-term contract, puts up 50+ points a year and he's a very solid defensive center. Even if they're stacked at center, they can just flip RNH once they acquire him. RNH > Hamonic in terms of value to me.

 

[Paralyzer008]

Eberle is better than Ryan Nugent-Hopkins..not sure why so many are saying, " Ebs rather than Nuge"

That's a separate debate, but Eberle is not better than RNH in my opinion.

Eberle has zero defensive game and zero ability to win board battles. Hurts him even though he has good hands and finishing ability.

It's way harder to find a good C than a good winger as well. Ask Nashville about that.

 

[DreamTheatre]

What does NY want with RNH?...they have centres.\By all accounts they want a D back to help in replacing the loss of Hamonic.

RNH doesn't get you Hamonic either.

IMO you don’t make a RNH deal for Hamonic. You will lose that deal 100%. Eberle should be the piece you deal for a Defensemen, whatever that gets us. I don’t think we should deal RNH unless there is a better option.

 

[Forgot About Drai]

Maybe it's just me, but I think NYI would be complete morons to turn down RNH for Hamonic. The guy wants out, and he's being drastically overrated ever since the trade request went public. RNH is still 22, on a decent long-term contract, puts up 50+ points a year and he's a very solid defensive center. Even if they're stacked at center, they can just flip RNH once they acquire him. RNH > Hamonic in terms of value to me.

Agreed. I think Isles fans are going to be seriously dissapointed with the return on Hamonic if they are expecting RNH+. I think by trade deadline Snow is going to cave and we'll see Eberle+2nd for Hamonic or something.

 

[DreamTheatre]

Out of the three centres that they have I would probably trade Nuge first, because I think he has the lowest ceiling based on his size and where he plays. But I really don’t think we could get the proper value for him now.

Nuge is probably going to improve over the next 3 years significantly. I would imagine that he is going to turn into a Henrik Sedin type of player. And you certainly won’t get that value now.

 

[Forgot About Drai]

Out of the three centres that they have I would probably trade Nuge first, because I think he has the lowest ceiling based on his size and where he plays. But I really don’t think we could get the proper value for him now.

Nuge is probably going to improve over the next 3 years significantly. I would imagine that he is going to turn into a Henrik Sedin type of player. And you certainly won’t get that value now.

Nuge turning into Henrik Sedin is a huge longshot. Offensively Nuge has not shown anything close to suggest he can be a Sedin type.

 

[DreamTheatre]

Nuge turning into Henrik Sedin is a huge longshot. Offensively Nuge has not shown anything close to suggest he can be a Sedin type.

Look at their numbers based on age. I would say Nuge is outpacing him actually.

But obviously this is not an exact science. I just think that Nuge will be a point per game player. But thats just my opinion.

 

[Mr Positive]

Nuge turning into Henrik Sedin is a huge longshot. Offensively Nuge has not shown anything close to suggest he can be a Sedin type.

It's not a huge long shot at all considering that the Sedins didn't break out offensively at the same age that RNH is now. That's no guarantee that RNH will hit the stride the same way of course, but his draft pedigree definitely makes it realistically possible.

Still, like with any player, until they actually break through with results, their future will always be uncertain. With RNH it is definitely no long shot though. He's a smart gamble

 

[Paralyzer008]

Nuge turning into Henrik Sedin is a huge longshot. Offensively Nuge has not shown anything close to suggest he can be a Sedin type.

Hilarious comment considering Henrik Sedin didn't have more than 50 points until he was 25.

RNH is 22.

 

[Forgot About Drai]

Look at their numbers based on age. I would say Nuge is outpacing him actually.

But obviously this is not an exact science. I just think that Nuge will be a point per game player. But thats just my opinion.

It's not a huge long shot at all considering that the Sedins didn't break out offensively at the same age that RNH is now. That's no guarantee that RNH will hit the stride the same way of course, but his draft pedigree definitely makes it realistically possible.

Still, like with any player, until they actually break through with results, their future will always be uncertain. With RNH it is definitely no long shot though. He's a smart gamble

Hilarious comment considering Henrik Sedin didn't have more than 50 points until he was 25.

RNH is 22.

Because one exceptional case is standard across all examples?

The fact is, most players who score around 50 points for career do not surge up to 80 point seasons very often.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Swedes typically take longer to develop. RNH wet through the WHL. His development path should be well ahead of Sedin's at his age.