Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXX

[Bileur]

When Norris is back I would just reunite the Chuck Norris line, since that seemed to work, and gave Batherson a good line to work on. Right now Batherson is not trusted due to his (new) defensive limitations. Norris would alleviate that. Then we can send Joseph down to the 3rd line.

Chuck - Norris - Bath <- this we know works
Greig - Stu - Giroux <- if Cat is traded
Motte - Pinto - Joseph <- this we know works. I'm all for bringing Motte back if no Formenton

If we keep Cat then Greig slides down. But I don't like having Cat - Stu - Giroux together, it's too much of the same on the same line.

I enjoyed the 7-9-19 line last season but 7-18 are both on pace for career years. Brady is pacing for the same even strength production as last season, Stutzle is pacing for a 20 even strength point bump. We know that line works to say the least.

I think working with pairs makes the most sense. You ensure a certain baseline chemistry while allowing adjustments.

Brady-Stutzle IMO should be stapled together permanently, like Shanahan-Yzerman. I want our leader and physical force to be riding shotgun with our most skilled and often most targeted player. Pretty anecdotal but it seems to me that opponents are taking far fewer runs at Tim than last season.

DeBrincat needs a playmaker to maximize his potential. Giroux is the best we’ve got and Bath wasn’t working as well in that role.

Norris-Bath we know work well together from last season, we just have to find someone else who can contribute.

Tkachuk-Stutzle-X
DeBrincat-X-Giroux
X-Norris-Batherson

The X are a combination of Pinto, Greig, Joseph and potentially Formenton (I’d also love to see Sokolov get a shot with 7-18 when injuries happen)

If we trade DeBrincat we need to bring in another forward. We can’t go into the season with Motte (or equivalent) in the top 9 again.

 

[NB613]

I enjoyed the 7-9-19 line last season but 7-18 are both on pace for career years. Brady is pacing for the same even strength production as last season, Stutzle is pacing for a 20 even strength point bump. We know that line works to say the least.

I think working with pairs makes the most sense. You ensure a certain baseline chemistry while allowing adjustments.

Brady-Stutzle IMO should be stapled together permanently, like Shanahan-Yzerman. I want our leader and physical force to be riding shotgun with our most skilled and often most targeted player. Pretty anecdotal but it seems to me that opponents are taking far fewer runs at Tim than last season.

DeBrincat needs a playmaker to maximize his potential. Giroux is the best we’ve got and Bath wasn’t working as well in that role.

Norris-Bath we know work well together from last season, we just have to find someone else who can contribute.

Tkachuk-Stutzle-X
DeBrincat-X-Giroux
X-Norris-Batherson

The X are a combination of Pinto, Greig, Joseph and potentially Formenton (I’d also love to see Sokolov get a shot with 7-18 when injuries happen)

If we trade DeBrincat we need to bring in another forward. We can’t go into the season with Motte (or equivalent) in the top 9 again.

Have a hard time seeing Norris not getting the 2nd most centre minutes on 5on5 but get the general idea of having “pairs”. Its easy to forget how damn good of a 2way player he is since hes barely played this year…

A 3rd line of Grieg-Pinto-Batherson will wreak havoc next year as both a scoring threat and shutting down opponents top lines.

Then a 4th line of “specialists” - guys who can possess puck, play aggressive, speedy, play PK (a la Motte, Kastelic etc).

 

[GoSenatorsGo]

I wonder if it’s Connor Murphy. Dorion has scouted Chicago, and they will need $$ when Toews and Kane are traded, makes sense.
Plus the two GMs seem to have a good relationship

 

[OD99]

I enjoyed the 7-9-19 line last season but 7-18 are both on pace for career years. Brady is pacing for the same even strength production as last season, Stutzle is pacing for a 20 even strength point bump. We know that line works to say the least.

I think working with pairs makes the most sense. You ensure a certain baseline chemistry while allowing adjustments.

Brady-Stutzle IMO should be stapled together permanently, like Shanahan-Yzerman. I want our leader and physical force to be riding shotgun with our most skilled and often most targeted player. Pretty anecdotal but it seems to me that opponents are taking far fewer runs at Tim than last season.

DeBrincat needs a playmaker to maximize his potential. Giroux is the best we’ve got and Bath wasn’t working as well in that role.

Norris-Bath we know work well together from last season, we just have to find someone else who can contribute.

Tkachuk-Stutzle-X
DeBrincat-X-Giroux
X-Norris-Batherson

The X are a combination of Pinto, Greig, Joseph and potentially Formenton (I’d also love to see Sokolov get a shot with 7-18 when injuries happen)

If we trade DeBrincat we need to bring in another forward. We can’t go into the season with Motte (or equivalent) in the top 9 again.

If Greig sustains his play or even gets better after the All-Star break as he acclimates to NHL life I would be hard pressed to move him from his current spot.

Joseph is playing well with Brady and Stu so that line may stay together as well.

Throw Formenton on with Norris and Bath and have Pinto C the 4th line to dominate and all of a sudden we have depth scoring. That doesn't even account for Soks potentially making the team.

 

[BankStreetParade]

I wonder if it’s Connor Murphy. Dorion has scouted Chicago, and they will need $$ when Toews and Kane are traded, makes sense.
Plus the two GMs seem to have a good relationship

Feels like Seth Jones makes a ton of sense, if they can be creative with the deal structure.

Jones + 12% cap retention
for
Zaitsev + the rights to Formenton + Ostapchuk + Thomson + 2024 1st + 2025 2nd

Brings Jones in at $8.36M caphit, gives Chicago a slew of prospects and cheap young players to plug into their roster through their rebuild, offloads a shitload of money off their books and costs them a minimal amount to their cap through retention.

 

[stempniaksen]

Feels like Seth Jones makes a ton of sense, if they can be creative with the deal structure.

Jones + 12% cap retention
for
Zaitsev + the rights to Formenton + Ostapchuk + Thomson + 2024 1st + 2025 2nd

Brings Jones in at $8.36M caphit, gives Chicago a slew of prospects and cheap young players to plug into their roster through their rebuild, offloads a shitload of money off their books and costs them a minimal amount to their cap through retention.

Jones has a full NMC and (apparently) wasn't interested in signing in Canada (pre-trade to Chicago).

No matter how much sense this makes to the Sens (debatable) or Blackhawks, I think Jones would nix a deal to a small market Canadian franchises with one of the highest tax rates in the league.

 

[SpezDispenser]

And he is only 28. That's a big, big factor.

Could easily have a solid stretch next 4 years and only still be 32. He's a great skater and that's a big sign I look for in defenders.

Problem is...he probably wants a 7 or 8 year contract. I like him though, I think he can put it back together,

Dumba sounds like damaged goods unfortunately.

Buyer beware.

I remember he punctured his lung in the playoffs maybe a year ago (or two), and busted a rib. Was there other injuries?

 

[Hale The Villain]

Michael Russo - who is pretty plugged in when it comes to the Wild - has been adamant that they aren't interested in Chychrun. He's also said that there is essentially zero interest in Dumba around the league, and Minny have had basically no luck drumming up a market for him.

I took his comments about Dumba to not mean there are no teams interested but rather no team has been willing to meet Guerin's asking price for Dumba, which is pretty obvious considering he hasn't been traded yet.

Didn't hear that about Chychrun though. Surprising they wouldn't be interested in him given their cap issues.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I remember he punctured his lung in the playoffs maybe a year ago (or two), and busted a rib. Was there other injuries?

Apparently Matthew Tkachuk busted him good in a fight and he's never been the same.

 

[HSF]

Feels like Seth Jones makes a ton of sense, if they can be creative with the deal structure.

Jones + 12% cap retention
for
Zaitsev + the rights to Formenton + Ostapchuk + Thomson + 2024 1st + 2025 2nd

Brings Jones in at $8.36M caphit, gives Chicago a slew of prospects and cheap young players to plug into their roster through their rebuild, offloads a shitload of money off their books and costs them a minimal amount to their cap through retention.

Ottawa can't take on that cap

Murphy makes more sense

 

[Cosmix]

I took his comments about Dumba to not mean there are no teams interested but rather no team has been willing to meet Guerin's asking price for Dumba, which is pretty obvious considering he hasn't been traded yet.

Didn't hear that about Chychrun though. Surprising they wouldn't be interested in him given their cap issues.

The way Russo apparently wrote it, it does seem that there is zero interest in Dumba at his salary of $5.2M and cap hit of $6M. Plus he will be a UFA at the end of this season. Offer them Zaitsev and a 3rd round pick to get Dumba.

 

[bicboi64]

The way Russo apparently wrote it, it does seem that there is zero interest in Dumba at his salary of $5.2M and cap hit of $6M. Plus he will be a UFA at the end of this season. Offer them Zaitsev and a 3rd round pick to get Dumba.

Good lord may Guerin be dumb enough to take on Zaitsev and give us capspace for next year. Even if we don't extend Dumba, we end up with some money for next season

 

[Cosmix]

Good lord may Guerin be dumb enough to take on Zaitsev and give us capspace for next year. Even if we don't extend Dumba, we end up with some money for next season

I might raise the 3rd to a second.

 

[Cosmix]

possible I don't see them putting Norris on the 3rd line.

I don't see Pinto on the 1st line too. Not yet anyway; perhaps in future seasons.

 

[Cosmix]

I've been very anti-Dumba this whole time, but if his value is basically zero maybe the Sens can shuffle some bodies around at the deadline to bring him in. Trade the UFA's for mid picks and then use some of that ammo to move for Dumba. Becomes a free audition for him next to Sanderson/Chabot.

OUT: Talbot, Holden, Hamonic, Watson, Motte
IN: Dumba, JBD (full-time), Greig (full-time), Luchinni/Chartier/Sabourin, Goalie off waivers (Ned? Khudobin?)

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Batherson
DeBrincat - Greig - Giroux
Brassard - Pinto - Joseph
Kelly - Kastelic - Gambrell
Luchinni/Chartier/Sabourin

Chabot - Zub
Sandy - Dumba
Brannstrom - JBD
Larsson/Waivers

Forsberg
Khudobin/Ned/ect

Depth is blah, but not much more than the current roster. Might leave Belleville a little short as well, especially if they move Talbot without finding a replacement. That being said, I'm more interested in seeing a Dumba trial run than I would be keeping Watson/Holden/Hamonic.

LOUD NO to Luchinni/Chartier/Sabourin!
Trade Brassard, Gambrell, Zaitsev & Brannstrom too if we can get something of future value.

 

[stempniaksen]

LOUD NO to Luchinni/Chartier/Sabourin!
Trade Brassard, Gambrell, Zaitsev & Brannstrom too if we can get something of future value.

It's as bottom of the lineup filler after we trade the UFA's. A loud no seems excessive. Stick Sokolov there if you want, but it's someone to sit and watch from the pressbox. Not like the team is overflowing with options in Belleville.

 

[Cosmix]

It's as bottom of the lineup filler after we trade the UFA's. A loud no seems excessive. Stick Sokolov there if you want, but it's someone to sit and watch from the pressbox. Not like the team is overflowing with options in Belleville.

Sokolov makes sense to see if he has developed into an NHL level player.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Ugh.

Braden Schneider is good. And who we Alledgedly were trying to trade up for in 2020.

The way Russo apparently wrote it, it does seem that there is zero interest in Dumba at his salary of $5.2M and cap hit of $6M. Plus he will be a UFA at the end of this season. Offer them Zaitsev and a 3rd round pick to get Dumba.

I feel like they would rather lose dumbas cap to free agency than take on Zaitsevs. Just offer them a third or a second and be done with it. Maybe he likes it here and knows he ain’t getting shit in FA (thiugh he likely will cuz of his name)0

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Just passing this along but don’t think anything is close / imminent.

There’s been lots of noise about a 3 way trade internally. Or something like 2 trades in quick succession.

If I get anything more of note I’ll pass it along.

Sharks. Eat salary. Yotes. Eat salary. Karlsson comes home

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Sharks. Eat salary. Yotes. Eat salary. Karlsson comes home

Stop it, you're getting me excited.

Just passing this along but don’t think anything is close / imminent.

There’s been lots of noise about a 3 way trade internally. Or something like 2 trades in quick succession.

If I get anything more of note I’ll pass it along.

Please be Karlsson. Please be Karlsson. Please be Karlsson.

 

[bicboi64]

I enjoyed the 7-9-19 line last season but 7-18 are both on pace for career years. Brady is pacing for the same even strength production as last season, Stutzle is pacing for a 20 even strength point bump. We know that line works to say the least.

I think working with pairs makes the most sense. You ensure a certain baseline chemistry while allowing adjustments.

Brady-Stutzle IMO should be stapled together permanently, like Shanahan-Yzerman. I want our leader and physical force to be riding shotgun with our most skilled and often most targeted player. Pretty anecdotal but it seems to me that opponents are taking far fewer runs at Tim than last season.

DeBrincat needs a playmaker to maximize his potential. Giroux is the best we’ve got and Bath wasn’t working as well in that role.

Norris-Bath we know work well together from last season, we just have to find someone else who can contribute.

Tkachuk-Stutzle-X
DeBrincat-X-Giroux
X-Norris-Batherson

The X are a combination of Pinto, Greig, Joseph and potentially Formenton (I’d also love to see Sokolov get a shot with 7-18 when injuries happen)

If we trade DeBrincat we need to bring in another forward. We can’t go into the season with Motte (or equivalent) in the top 9 again.

I wanna see Brady Norris Bath reunited, their 5 on 5 production was dope.

Stu with Cat would be absolute fire. I'm fine with Joseph on the top line and Batherson on the 3rd line with Pinto and someone who hustles like Grieg so his defensive holes are accounted for.

Cat Stu Giroux
Tkachuk Norris Joseph
Grieg Pinto Batherson
Motte Kastelic [whomever]

 

[DueDiligence]

Stop it, you're getting me excited.


Please be Karlsson. Please be Karlsson. Please be Karlsson.

Nooooo!

 

[Hale The Villain]

Maybe a 3-way trade based around Chychrun and Talbot to LA, Roy to OTT, picks/prospects + Zaitsev to AZ.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Nooooo!

 

[Que]

I’m starting to wonder if we’re trying to get two D-men. I’m thinking it’s Dumba and Durzi.