Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXX

[Hale The Villain]

Would be a disastrous acquisition.

Hopefully Dumba55's NTC saves Dorion from himself.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Sounds expensive .... We could have had Marino ;

 

[Ice-Tray]

Exactly.

Plays a pretty physical game but isn’t big and that style has taken a toll.

Christ, the guy is lighter than Brannstrom.

They should have done the Burns move this summer. At least he can fall back on size and shot when the skating goes.

They tried to get Burns didn’t they? Would have been a good #4 vet I’d say, plus he can be nasty.

 

[Cosmix]

Just playing devils advocate.

What if Dumba and his agent scouted the market and the current cap situations of teams ? What if they don’t want to be in a John Klingberg situation this summer ?

Dumba is 29 to start next year I think 4.5*5 is very fair for him but what do I kno

Klingberg got $7M for one year. Not bad at all. Dumba will not get $7M.

branny is thiccc tho

Where is he thick? Body? Head?

 

[Hale The Villain]

I'm guessing a 3-way trade could be in the works between the Sens, Yotes and Wild

Minnesota replaces Dumba with Chychrun, who's better and importantly will be cheaper, as they have cap issues.
Sens give futures to add and extend Dumba, with some extra thrown in for Arizona to take on Zaitsev
Arizona gets a haul of prospects, picks and young players

Could see the Sens giving up their 1st (lottery or top 10 protected) to add Dumba and dump Zaitsev, especially since a Dumba extension will almost certainly mean DeBrincat isn't re-signing (won't be enough money for both) and we'd get a replacement 1st from some team for him later on.

Sens love physical D and don't give a crap about whether they are smart or can actually play good defense.

Could see them throwing a 6M+ contract at Dumba.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I'm guessing a 3-way trade could be in the works between the Sens, Yotes and Wild

Minnesota replaces Dumba with Chychrun, who's better and importantly will be cheaper, as they have cap issues.
Sens give futures to add and extend Dumba, with some extra thrown in for Arizona to take on Zaitsev
Arizona gets a haul of prospects, picks and young players

Could see the Sens giving up their 1st (lottery or top 10 protected) to add Dumba and dump Zaitsev, especially since a Dumba extension will almost certainly mean DeBrincat isn't re-signing (won't be enough money for both) and we'd get a replacement 1st from some team for him later on.

Sens love physical D and don't give a crap about whether they are smart or can actually play good defense.

Could see them throwing a 6M+ contract at Dumba.

Is there a way we could include a player like Kyle Turris and then pretend like his trade value wasn't part of the value given up? Those were fun arguments.

 

[ksens]

I'm guessing a 3-way trade could be in the works between the Sens, Yotes and Wild

Minnesota replaces Dumba with Chychrun, who's better and importantly will be cheaper, as they have cap issues.
Sens give futures to add and extend Dumba, with some extra thrown in for Arizona to take on Zaitsev
Arizona gets a haul of prospects, picks and young players

Could see the Sens giving up their 1st (lottery or top 10 protected) to add Dumba and dump Zaitsev, especially since a Dumba extension will almost certainly mean DeBrincat isn't re-signing (won't be enough money for both) and we'd get a replacement 1st from some team for him later on.

Sens love physical D and don't give a crap about whether they are smart or can actually play good defense.

Could see them throwing a 6M+ contract at Dumba.

Dorion better not have the green light to make deals like this. Because holy shit this would be monumentally stupid.

Let someone competent fix the D in the summer.

 

[Bileur]

They tried to get Burns didn’t they? Would have been a good #4 vet I’d say, plus he can be nasty.

That’s the rumour would have been much better than Dumba and cost almost very little. Oh well.

branny is thiccc tho

Ok how about this, Dumba is listed as shorter and lighter than Kyle Turris.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

I'm guessing a 3-way trade could be in the works between the Sens, Yotes and Wild

Minnesota replaces Dumba with Chychrun, who's better and importantly will be cheaper, as they have cap issues.
Sens give futures to add and extend Dumba, with some extra thrown in for Arizona to take on Zaitsev
Arizona gets a haul of prospects, picks and young players

Could see the Sens giving up their 1st (lottery or top 10 protected) to add Dumba and dump Zaitsev, especially since a Dumba extension will almost certainly mean DeBrincat isn't re-signing (won't be enough money for both) and we'd get a replacement 1st from some team for him later on.

Sens love physical D and don't give a crap about whether they are smart or can actually play good defense.

Could see them throwing a 6M+ contract at Dumba.

I think I'm gonna be sick.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Well Bruce was on air saying it, and specifically said it would be with an extension as the plan. He doesn't seem to have the inside track he used to have since Melnyk passed away though, so hopefully it's just hot air.

I don't think Bruce has a f***ing clue what's going on with the Senators. His source is dead and his career isn't too far behind either.

 

[Micklebot]

I think I'm gonna be sick.

I really can't see it happening (at least not as described) so you'll probably be fine.

 

[Ouroboros]

Sounds like a good deal.

 

[TeamRenzo]

Sounds like a good deal.

Three 1st round picks plus you pay EK $9.5ish per year...where do I sign up?

 

[bert]

So we acquire Dumba a more offensive D man who's offence has dried up and who's defence was never a strength , to provide the Wild a chance to acquire and sign the younger , cheaper and better Chychrun... When I put it like that . it seems quite plausible.. If Dorion is not just playing GM and actually has the green light to put anything kind of substantial commitment on the books. At one time I liked Dumba because of the package including physicality he brought. I think there is some truth to to the toll that physicality takes on a smaller body.

Hopefully Bruce is as accurate about this as he was with Zub.

Sounds like a good deal.

For San Jose for sure. Couldnt give him away for free 6 months ago.

 

[Sun God Nika]

I don't think Bruce has a f***ing clue what's going on with the Senators. His source is dead and his career isn't too far behind either.

Ya I think Bruce has lost his access. I am sure there was a pipeline between him and Pierre but with Melnyk gone maybe Pierre and Bruce had a falling out or something. You can't call yourself a insider and be that wrong on Zub.

Nowhere Close.

Next day Zub is inked.

now he is joining fan speculation. Saying this GM/Scout went and attended this game...

 

[BoardsofCanada]

Is there a way we could include a player like Kyle Turris and then pretend like his trade value wasn't part of the value given up? Those were fun arguments.

It was basically Turris and a 1st for Duchene which is a fair price to pay.

The 3rd rd. pick, Bowers and Hammond amounted to nothing.

The 3rd rd. pick in a fairly weak draft was equivalent to a spin of the roulette wheel.
Bowers; Management correctly guessed that he was expendable.
Hammond: AHL goalie easily replaced.

So Turris and a 1st. The 1st shouldn't have been so high but that's life. Byram, while he has awesome raw tools, really hasn't been able to do much yet. Not saying he never will, but so far, 5 years after the deal went down, he still hasn't established himself as a contributing force.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

It was basically Turris and a 1st for Duchene which is a fair price to pay.

The 3rd rd. pick, Bowers and Hammond amounted to nothing.

The 3rd rd. pick in a fairly weak draft was equivalent to a spin of the roulette wheel.
Bowers; Management correctly guessed that he was expendable.
Hammond: AHL goalie easily replaced.

So Turris and a 1st. The 1st shouldn't have been so high but that's life. Byram, while he has awesome raw tools, really hasn't been able to do much yet. Not saying he never will, but so far, 5 years after the deal went down, he still hasn't established himself as a contributing force.

We've debated this in to the ground and I can see we wouldn't see eye to eye on it and a reply would require a long post I've probably made 10 times over already, so I will respectfully pass, but I appreciate the response.

 

[Big Muddy]

So Turris and a 1st. The 1st shouldn't have been so high but that's life. Byram, while he has awesome raw tools, really hasn't been able to do much yet. Not saying he never will, but so far, 5 years after the deal went down, he still hasn't established himself as a contributing force.

Byram has been pretty good actually. But, he has had some injury issues.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Dorion better not have the green light to make deals like this. Because holy shit this would be monumentally stupid.

Let someone competent fix the D in the summer.

I'm still not a fan of going all-offense and throwing another 8-9M at a forward by re-signing DeBrincat, but if it prevents Dorion from doing something stupid like trading nice assets for Dumba, it's a massive win.

But I don't like our chances of re-signing DeBrincat if Dorion is indeed going after Dumba. We simply don't have the money for both, even if we dump Zaitsev.

 

[Micklebot]

Bowers; Management correctly guessed that he was expendable.

Bowers was only drafted drafted 4 months earlier and would have played maybe a dozen games since, to wright him off as not part of the value given up is highly dubious regardless of whether management felt he was expendable or not. They probably would have felt Jokiharju, Timmons, Hague or Robertson were expendable too at that point had they drafted them instead, just because prospect busts doesn't mean they didn't carey value in a trade at that time,

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Thinks he’s playing PlayStation

 

[bicboi64]

Was on the Minnesota board, Dumba takes loads of penalties. He'll fit right in here lol

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Minnesota trading Fiala instead of Dumba to fix their cap issues was massively stupid.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

If Pettersson is actually set on leaving Vancouver, and would come to Ottawa... as much as I love Debrincat... you need to offer him up to see if there's interest from Vancouver.

As an ex-Vancouverite, I feel bad for them... but, man oh man, every team in the league would be lipping their chops for a shot at EP.

Minnesota trading Fiala instead of Dumba to fix their cap issues was massively stupid.

Made no sense on day 1.

 

[scout20]

Dumba reminds of Phaneuf he will have a few great highlights of open ice hits through the year that gets you excited about his game. However, once he is on your team you will quickly notice how many times he is caught out of position tying to make some of those hits leading to poor defensive play and poor decision making.