Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXX

[Joeyjoejoe]

I am getting a feeling that we sign the Cat during this break.

I am feeling a $8.2M for 8 years type contract.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

giving talbot multi year deal is smart to drive down his cap hit

He's 35. I'm not 100% against but it is risky.

Now that we are spending, looking to keep DBC and put more cash in our D we have to be extra mindful.

 

[Cosmix]

Lol, if I had the answers to that maybe I'd be coach instead of DJ...

Getting Norris back I think will help goals in general because it will get Pinto slotted back where he belongs

Yes indeed. Pinto does not look like a 2nd line C at this point. He appears a bit slow, & lacks the high end puck-handling skills; however, he seems to have a great shot that he gets off fast on one timers.

 

[Silencio]

I am getting a feeling that we sign the Cat during this break.

I am feeling a $8.2M for 8 years type contract.

Same, but I think he signs a 5 year extension. That would give him 6 more seasons in Ottawa and allow him to become a UFA at age 31, still time for one more big contract.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Thomas and Kyrou? They didn't have a similar contract status to Pinto when they signed those deals. They were eligible for offer sheets. Pinto will not be eligible for offer sheets this summer because he hasn't accrued enough professional seasons. That gives the Senators far more leverage in negotiations.

Assen na yo!

The year Pinto was injured probably knocked off one year because he only played 5 games versus 10. So, he's a 10.2.c and believe he has a one year slide. I think an ELC needs 3 years & 80 games to move to a RFA contract.

I'm guessing a one-year deal is likely between $1.2 to $1.7 m, but that's a guess.

It's probably the timing & amount of his RFA contract that is the important issue. Teams are locking up players earlier now during the RFA stage versus waiting until UFA. Senators have been giving the large & long term contracts to their good, core using this strategy.

Has anybody found a website that lists 10.2.c contracts?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Same, but I think he signs a 5 year extension. That would give him 6 more seasons in Ottawa and allow him to become a UFA at age 31, still time for one more big contract.

Signing a 5 year deal, gives him 5 more years, not 6.

 

[Sens Vader]

I think we were rumored to be in on Gavrikov, he's a left-shot but looked big and strong out there last game I thought.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Ekholm is apparently available according to Servelli

Nashville Predators' Mattias Ekholm "Available"

There is a brand new name to throw out onto the 2023 trade deadline hot stove, and it's a big …

www.prohockeyrumors.com

Would be an amazing partner for Sanderson.

 

[Big Muddy]

Ekholm is apparently available according to Servelli

Nashville Predators' Mattias Ekholm "Available"

There is a brand new name to throw out onto the 2023 trade deadline hot stove, and it's a big …

www.prohockeyrumors.com

Would be an amazing partner for Sanderson.

Would be a nice player to get for sure. And, we could probably work his contract in if we were to get rid of Zaitsev.

But, the cost in terms of assets to get Ekholm plus get rid of Zaitsev would have to be very high. It would be a big, bold move for sure.

Even hearing rumours about Dorion trying to land a defender and get rid of Zaitsev creates some anxiety I suppose.

 

[Cosmix]

Would be a nice player to get for sure. And, we could probably work his contract in if we were to get rid of Zaitsev.

But, the cost in terms of assets to get Ekholm plus get rid of Zaitsev would have to be very high. It would be a big, bold move for sure.

Even hearing rumours about Dorion trying to land a defender and get rid of Zaitsev creates some anxiety I suppose.

He is listed as left shot. Can he play RD? Has he?

 

[Xspyrit]

Ekholm is apparently available according to Servelli

Nashville Predators' Mattias Ekholm "Available"

There is a brand new name to throw out onto the 2023 trade deadline hot stove, and it's a big …

www.prohockeyrumors.com

Would be an amazing partner for Sanderson.

Chabot is the guy who needs a Ekholm, unless they want to keep Chabot with Zub

IMO, if we'd be getting Ekholm :

Chabot - Ekholm
Sanderson - Hamonic
Brannstrom - Zub

PP for Brannstrom, Chabot and Sanderson
PK for Ekholm, Zub, Sanderson and Hamonic

The average game TOI distribution would look :

Chabot 24-25 mins
Ekholm 21-22 mins
Sanderson 21-22 mins
Zub 20-21 mins
Hamonic 15-16 mins
Brannstrom 15-16 mins

He is listed as left shot. Can he play RD? Has he?

Yes he can and has done it in the past. Don't know how much and what efficiency % as LD though

 

[Big Muddy]

He is listed as left shot. Can he play RD? Has he?

So is Gavrikov (a LD).. I didn't mention it. Just trying to be more light & positive. Maybe it's a New Year's resolution.

To answer your question though, & FWIW, I see Ekholm listed as a LD on most websites. I think I saw him listed on the right side once though.

It was the cost to land a player like that is what I thought of. That's a pretty obvious thought though of course.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Ekholm vs Chychurn at 5 on 5

Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

www.naturalstattrick.com

 

[Masked]

The year Pinto was injured probably knocked off one year because he only played 5 games versus 10. So, he's a 10.2.c and believe he has a one year slide. I think an ELC needs 3 years & 80 games to move to a RFA contract.

Has anybody found a website that lists 10.2.c contracts?

No, it was the first year of his contract, in which he showed up after the NCAA season ended, that doesn't count as a year of professional experience.

Sanderson will be in the same position when his entry deal ends.

CapFriendly lists 10.2.c contracts.

Assen na yo!

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Ekholm would be terrific.

He's played RD in the past.

If I am yall, I'd keep a close eye on Justin Faulk and Dante Fabbro.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

No, it was the first year of his contract, in which he showed up after the NCAA season ended, that doesn't count as a year of professional experience.

Sanderson will be in the same position when his entry deal ends.

CapFriendly lists 10.2.c contracts.

Assen na yo!

Actually, I was looking for the salary info for 10.2.c contracts. I know it's not what I typed. My bad.

In CapFriendly they mention three years of pro experience and 80 total games played.

But, they also state: "If a player who is signed to an entry-level contract and is 18 or 19 years of age (as of September 15 of the signing year), does not play in a minimum of 10 NHL games (including both regular season and playoffs; AHL games do not count), their contract is considered to ‘slide’, or extend, by one year."

It took some digging, but I did eventually find an explanation below. It seems like what's described below is the reason why.

I see that in the *** "Pro-Seasons (GP sum of all leagues)" section, CF is not even listing 2021-22 which is the season he only played 5 games.

Status: Ineligible
Shane Pinto is arbitration ineligible. With a first contract signing age of 20, 4 professional seasons are required for arbitration eligibility. At the current time, 2 professional seasons have been earned. A detailed breakdown of the completed professional seasons are displayed below.

Details​

First Contract Signing Age: 20
Pro-Seasons Required: 4
Pro-Seasons Completed: 2

Pro-Seasons Details​

*** Pro-Seasons (GP sum of all leagues)

1. 2020-21: 12 GP
2. 2022-23: 38 GP

Thank You - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Thank you for the amazing 9 years

www.capfriendly.com

 

[Big Muddy]

So is Gavrikov (a LD).. I didn't mention it. Just trying to be more light & positive. Maybe it's a New Year's resolution.

To answer your question though, & FWIW, I see Ekholm listed as a LD on most websites. I think I saw him listed on the right side once though.

It was the cost to land a player like that is what I thought of. That's a pretty obvious thought though of course.

As an update, I noticed that Pred fans on main board were saying that they tried Ekholm on the right side for a bit early this year, but switched him back to LD. I guess it didn't work out well. Seemed like there was different theories on why, but he's played as LD basically throughout his career. Don't shoot the messenger - just relaying info.

 

[NB613]

Ekholm would be terrific.

He's played RD in the past.

If I am yall, I'd keep a close eye on Justin Faulk and Dante Fabbro.

Yikes on Faulk defensively but looms awesome offensively. Might be nice to have another offensively gifted D. But contract is AWFUL (6.5M for another 4.5 seasoned). Blues would have to retain.

Fabbro has decent analytics and seems alot “quieter” than Faulk. Might be less expensive to acquire.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Yikes on Faulk

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Fabbro looks good
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I want Fabbro just so I can say "That's Fab Bro"

 

[Silencio]

Signing a 5 year deal, gives him 5 more years, not 6.

My bad, I forgot he’s an RFA after this season.

I think Cat signs for 6 years.

Also - doubt we trade for Faulk. Doesn’t he hate Canada or something?

 

[Que]

I want Fabbro just so I can say "That's Fab Bro"

Yassss queen.

 

[Yak]

I think you are assuming that he will take less per year if he signs for a longer term; however, at his age, there is no certainty that he can continue to play well for a longer period. It might not be "smart" to give him a term longer than a year or two, or three.

Try and get him on a two year $5.5 million dollar deal.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Ekholm would be terrific.

He's played RD in the past.

If I am yall, I'd keep a close eye on Justin Faulk and Dante Fabbro.

Ekholm and Faulk are probably too expensive, unless DeBrincat is not re-signing.

Fabbro is interesting though. Was healthy scratched Tuesday.

Could be a nice guy to pair with Chabot. He is basically a better JBD.

 

[bicboi64]

I'd love to get Fabbro. The Preds are stuck in no mans land because their core is signed long term and just not good enough to go deep.

Fabbro is a 24 year old RD not being used properly in Nashville, not sure what pieces we have that the Preds would want but if we can offload some existing prospects and draft picks that aren't in the first round, I hope Dorion goes for him

 

[Icelevel]

Should we look into grabbing Alex nylander from Pitts?
They’re not using him and I’m guessing there could be more there.
You know, as a third liner. Imagine the price would be very low.
Unless they’re trying to develop him in the ahl.