He's made it this far while his public demise has been ongoing for a number of yrs on here. But to be clear I doubt it happens too & I think it's unclear what happens to him especially after the summer of Pierre when he was the talk of the hockey world. I've never been a fan, but it's rather remarkable how long he has hung on & promply dumped his only internal rival the first chance he got.
Zibanejad, Stone and maybe the Duchene trades probably had something to do with it as well. Might have been just forgetfulness or artful memory on your part. On the Stone trade, probably waiting too long without getting him signed was relevant.
Fan base would have lynched Dorion if he traded him the summer before arb. Lots of Dorion’s moves have been Melnyk directed, financially required or just desperation.
I don't know who him is, but yes, hard to know what part was Dorion and what role Melnyk had exactly. That's part of the fun being a Senator fan. Dorion got locked on Duchene for some reason, but I personally don't think he was a big enough of a difference maker. Just found it Interesting that Dorion had just 2 bad moves (the main point of the post).
Who did you "hear" say that?
To also be fair, Melnyk did not force Dorion to trade Zibby for what he got!
The smart play by a new ownership group would be to hire smart hockey execs to provide advice before completing the takeover and to develop a plan that could be implemented shortly afterward.
I very much doubt that Dorion will be moved up in the Sens organization. Out is more likely.
It will be interesting to see what happens with all this, I don't think it's a fait accompli as many others do at this point especially if the team continues to progress or trend upwards. We'll see eventually.
Whether it's before or immediately afterwards, I think people will be engaged to review the organization in order for new ownership to make informed decisions
lol didn't anyone force Dorion to come out and say that they were close on signing Stone and that they just need more time? or that it was his best day as GM when Stone got traded? Media messaging is a huge part of the GM job. Dorion is not that good. Melnyk was horrible yes but Dorion is not some messiah
I think most people believe that going into next season we probably have a new GM and coach
Most of us would have accepted a better return ,, it was handled poorly imo.
Does that really matter? I mean, the writing was on the wall when he'd only sign a 1 year deal, at that point whether the fans accept it or not you move the guy, because they won't accept it any better when you move him with zero leverage.
Sure, it's not guaranteed. There's a pretty good chance Vegas would have given us the package they gave up for Pacioretty, perhaps a bit more since Stone was the better asset, or maybe we'd have been in conversations with the Blues and offered them an alternative to trading for O'Reilly, but it's not guaranteed. Stone would have arguably been the biggest piece on the market. The point though is that we put ourselves in a position where it is guaranteed our leverage was less than had we tried to move him earlier. we put our backs up against the wall when it was pretty clear that we were compromising ourselves. We held out hope that maybe Stone would change his mind and sign with us when all the signs were pointing towards it being a tough sell.
When your owner refuses to take salary back it makes getting good returns hard. Montreal took on Tatars 3 years at about 5M, Buffalo took on multiple years of Sobotka and a long term commitment to Berglund, can you honestly imagine Melnyk agreeing to either of those scenarios?
You don’t think that the on ice team is a huge factor in buying the team do you?
