Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXX

[Que]

Can someone tag Pierre and make sure he reads those twitter comments?!?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Weegers contract alone makes me want to avoid him .

Yes Parynko is similar but he’s the better player .

Is parayko the better player? I…don’t see that

 

[TheNewEra]

It is insane - which is why I’d steer away from Parayko. He has a full NTC and I suspect he’d rather not play in Ottawa.

Also, if St. Louis is only asking something of that magnitude for Parayko is that not sending off warning signs or flags?

the clause is going to save ottawa again

 

[DaveMatthew]

Parayko only works if you can get out from the Joseph and Zaitsev contracts, and even then, it'd be very tight if you want to keep Debrincat. You'd have to run with a league minimum player as the 3rd line RW, a Kelly-Kastelic-Gauthier 4th line and spend under $1.25M on a backup goalie.

I'm also not sure St.Louis would want to take Joseph back, so you'd be looking at:

A 2nd to dump Zaitsev somewhere
A 2nd to dump Joseph somewhere
Kleven/JBD + a couple of picks (potentially a '24 or '25 1st) to acquire Parayko

Seems like way too much.

The best I'd do is:

To St.Louis: Mathieu Joseph + Jacob Bernard-Docker + 2nd '24
To Ottawa: Colton Parayko

If they don't take Joseph, I'd need 10-15% retention on Parayko to get his cap hit down to $5.5-5.7M, but I'm not giving up a 1st to do it.

 

[Que]

Trade Chabot and Zaitsev for EK.

Sign Kleven immediately.

Ask Brady to beg Brinsky to plead for Kaner. Trade stoopid futures.

Add one bottom six forward. Ideally a center.

Tkachuk - Stützle - Batherson
DeBrincat - Pinto - Kane
Joseph - Grieg - Giroux
Kelly - xxxxx - Gauthier
(Gambrell - Brassard - Kastelic)

Sanderson - Karlsson
Brannström - Zub
Kleven - Hamonic
(Holden - JBD)

 

[Senator Stanley]

If anyone is going to overpay for Colton Parayko and his contract, it's Pierre Dorion. Frightening times.

 

[Cosmix]

DeBrincat hisses at you.

And I hisses with a P at him!

 

[ThaShow]

 

[armani]

 

[guyzeur]

"hearing" "believe" "rumoured" "close" "player OR a pick". "my sources" "whispers" "from insiders" "suggest" "evolving possible story"

lolololol

 

[DaveMatthew]

With St.Louis rumored to be after Meier, I wonder if a 3-way could be worked out with Ottawa taking Parayko's contract, San Jose absorbing Zaitsev + Joseph and the getting a package of picks/prospects from both teams.

Something like:

To Ottawa: Colton Parayko
To St.Louis: Timo Meier
To San Jose: Neighbours + Bernard-Docker + 1st '23 (from STL via TOR) + 2nd '23 (from OTT) + 2nd '24 (from OTT via WSH) + Zaitsev + Joseph

Basically breaks down as:

Ottawa trades Joseph + JBD + 2nd '23 to St.Louis for Parayko.
St. Louis flips Joseph + JBD + 2nd '23 as well as Toronto's 1st + Neighbours for Meier with an extension
Ottawa trades a 2nd in '24 to San Jose to absorb Zaitsev for a year

 

[Gil Gunderson]

"hearing" "believe" "rumoured" "close" "player OR a pick". "my sources" "whispers" "from insiders" "suggest" "evolving possible story"

lolololol

He’s clearly making a joke.

 

[swiftwin]

My sources say that the Sens are very close to acquiring a player or a pick, but that Dorion is happy with the team as it is, therefore doesn't want to make a move. Unless there's interest in expiring players like Watson, we may get a pick back. He's also always on the lookout for a top-4 RD, so we may see a move for one of those. But the cost may be too high, so a move may not happen. Considering we have a few million in cap space, I hear, he may use that space to improve the team though.

If anyone is going to overpay for Colton Parayko and his contract, it's Pierre Dorion. Frightening times.

Does Dorion have a history of overpaying for players on long contracts?

 

[Micklebot]

I would think this is a no-brainer but I've been seeing Blues fans dump on Parakyo lately.

He talked about it on coming in hot today too, told the ask from a team like the sens is a young NHL ready D, so Brannstrom? JBD? Thomson? Maybe Kleven... Certainly not Sanderson.

 

[swiftwin]

In all seriousness though, I can't see Dorion going after Parayko. It goes completely against his MO. Having a player on such a long contract well into his 30's (ends at 37!!!) is unheard of for Dorion. He's always been super stingy on term for players later in their primes, even before we were rebuilding (see: Turris).

Also, wasn't he scared off by the term on Marino's contract?

 

[DaveMatthew]

In all seriousness though, I can't see Dorion going after Parayko. It goes completely against his MO. Having a player on such a long contract well into his 30's (ends at 37!!!) is unheard of for Dorion. He's always been super stingy on term for players later in their primes, even before we were rebuilding (see: Turris).

Also, wasn't he scared off by the term on Marino's contract?

The counterpoint is he was, and apparently still is, very interested in Weegar. Weegar is the same age as Parayko, and signed for a year longer.
He also made a pitch for Burns (which was blocked by a NMC) who's signed until 39.

 

[Sens Vader]

We just gotta think who the best partner for Sanderson or Chabot is

I think Parayko is a perfect fit for these guys.

Not always about the best player or contract, it’s about chemistry and fit

 

[Gil Gunderson]

So Marino had too much term but Parayko’s our guy? Sure.

 

[Micklebot]

In all seriousness though, I can't see Dorion going after Parayko. It goes completely against his MO. Having a player on such a long contract well into his 30's (ends at 37!!!) is unheard of for Dorion. He's always been super stingy on term for players later in their primes, even before we were rebuilding (see: Turris).

Also, wasn't he scared off by the term on Marino's contract?

Scared off by his term might be because he wasn't completely sold on how good the player was.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Also, wasn't he scared off by the term on Marino's contract?

Maybe the term was too short

 

[aragorn]

Who would people rather have between Weegar and Parayko

same age, similar salary. Both available

Parayko, Ottawa needs more size on defence & he's a very good defenceman which makes him even more valuable to us.

 

[swiftwin]

Scared off by his term might be because he wasn't completely sold on how good the player was.

Okay, but how sold are we on Parayko's play lasting into his mid-late 30's? The only way this move makes sense is if we're confident we can LTIR him if/when his play drops.

Looking at our core, the absolute peak of our window is going to be 2025-2028: Tkachuk (26-29), Norris (26-29), Stutzle (23-26), Chabot (28-31) will all be at the absolute peaks of their careers and still be on their current contracts which will be a much smaller percentage of the team's cap since we expect the cap to go up a ton by then. Having a potential anchor of a contract @ 6.5M for a player who is 32-35 could be utterly devastating during this core's absolute peak years.

Maybe I'm just underrating Parayko? It does seem like he would be a perfect fit for the next 2-3 seasons though. Perhaps that's more important that worrying about 2028.

 

[Puikiou]

Get it done.

1. Zaitsev (4.5M x 2 years) + Joseph (3M x 4 years) + Thomson + 1st/2nds x 2 for Parayko (6.5M x 8 years)

2. Debrincat 8.2M x 7 years (Tkachuk's deal)

Tkachuk - Stützle - Greig
Debrincat - Norris - Giroux
Formenton - Pinto - Batherson
Kelly - Kastelic - Gauthier

Chabot - Parayko
Sanderson - Zub
Kleven - Brännström

Forsberg
Sogaard​

 

[Emerica]

Whats with soon to be 30 year olds 3-4D getting 8 year deals. I would not touch Parayko or Weegar with those contracts.

 

[HSF]

Parayko has slowed down this year which is concerning

Weegar is having another great year and might have less mileage on his body