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Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXIX

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NyQuil said:
We trade DBC or Batherson and all of a sudden people are losing their minds at seeing Joseph or Motte in the top six.
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We trade DeBrincat and in the summer we can replace him at 2nd line LW for around half of his 9M salary, the rest of which can be re-directed towards the defense.

Trading him during the season or at the deadline won't get us a replacement but obviously the season is over at that point anyways so who cares.
 
Hale The Villain said:
We trade DeBrincat and in the summer we can replace him at 2nd line LW for around half of his 9M salary, the rest of which can be re-directed towards the defense.

Trading him during the season or at the deadline won't get us a replacement but obviously the season is over at that point anyways so who cares.
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I’m not against trading him at the opportune time but I question the idea that we will instantly improve if we do so as he will leave a hole.
 
NyQuil said:
I’m not against trading him at the opportune time but I question the idea that we will instantly improve if we do so as he will leave a hole.
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Pretty much this, we can find the ideal RD that fits what the team needs, but I don't know if it'll help. Reason being DJ's coaching.

Having said that, aside from Dorion being the one to make the move, I'm more than fine with the logic of moving Cat (or Batherson) to get D help. Easier to give rookies like Grieg, Jarventie, Sokolov, or even Lodin a chance in the top 6 and not have too many consequences than it does having rookie D's in our sorry excuse for a blue line
 
bicboi64 said:
Pretty much this, we can find the ideal RD that fits what the team needs, but I don't know if it'll help. Reason being DJ's coaching.

Having said that, aside from Dorion being the one to make the move, I'm more than fine with the logic of moving Cat (or Batherson) to get D help. Easier to give rookies like Grieg, Jarventie, Sokolov, or even Lodin a chance in the top 6 and not have too many consequences than it does having rookie D's in our sorry excuse for a blue line
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There's no chance DJ is back next year even if they end up letting him limp through the rest of this one, so in the context of what to do for next season, its not a concern.
 
HSF said:
marino went for ty smith and a 3rd

you really don't need to trade high end players for a RD unless they are elitte. We already have our cornerstones on defense
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And these corner stones are not enough. One injury to any of them and we collapse.

We don't trade a top 6 winger straight up for a single RD defender, you do it for multiple pieces that help out our depth.
 
bicboi64 said:
And these corner stones are not enough. One injury to any of them and we collapse.

We don't trade a top 6 winger straight up for a single RD defender, you do it for multiple pieces that help out our depth.
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chabot and Sanderson is plenty to build around

trading cat is a step back. Giroux won't be here longterm
 
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HSF said:
chabot and Sanderson is plenty to build around

trading cat is a step back. Giroux won't be here longterm
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2LDs leaves 4 other positions open. RD are the hardest position to fill in the NHL while wingers are the easiest to fill.

If one of Grieg, Boucher, Sokolov, Jarventie, + whomever we draft this year, are not able to enter the top 6 by the time Giroux is no longer serviceable, we will have taken a step back in our development ability.

Trading Cat or Bath, while addressing D at the same time is a step forward. Trading either of them without doing that is a step back but I'm not proposing that

Hopefully if we bite the bullet on Myers, Allvin is dumb enough to throw in a piece like Hoglander in lol
 
Golden_Jet said:
I know how LTIR works thanks, and I never mentioned LTIR once, in the quote you posted. You totally misread what I posted, but that’s fine. To summarize I said they will need only to find about 20% of his cap hit by the time he comes back.
That was solely in response to your saying Paccioretty is coming back soon. My whole point was he’s not coming back soon, in my post, nothing to do with LTIR, that’s why I never brought it up. He’s 3 months away from coming back, not soon. Cheers.

Thanks for informing other posts how LTIR works though I guess lol.
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They will need to clear 161K to bring him back whether it is tomorrow or March. Not sure what you are referring to with the 20%
 
I am really not sure about Myers, last week I seen him take like 4-5 penalties in a game. Also lost his man that led to a goal. The team has been bad and that was a small sample size but scares me.
 
GCK said:
Weird deal unless Vancouver retains.
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The Senators have 4.5M of dead money sitting in the minors doing absolutely nothing for them, and that's going to continue into next season. They're going to want to clear that off the books, but they are no longer in a position where giving up futures to dump him makes any sense.

I have to assume that Vancouver's plan is to make this swap, pick up an asset and then buy Zaitsev out this summer. There is basically no change in Myers cap hit if he's bought out [6M vs 5.33M] but Zaitsev drops from 4.5M to 2.83M. Going from 6M down to 2.83M opens up a decent chuck of cap space for them. If they have to retain it probably gets too thin for it to be worth their while.

I think there is still a perception that Tyler Myers is a good player. I don't believe he is, but perception is reality in these cases. Every time a GM looks at him he's 6'8", y'know? That goes a long way in the NHL. He would clearly be the more desirable piece among the two.

The Senators probably have no idea who will play RD for them next season. Zub is a UFA. Hamonic is both a UFA and not very good. They've clearly closed the book on Zaitsev. Surely they can't be penciling in Lassi Thomson. They kind of need some bodies.
 
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DylanSensFan said:
My guess is that a trade is coming on the Formenton front. Too bad really. I liked him as a player.


DeBrincat isn't anywhere near our top forward.
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Shooting percentage goes up and he is. By far.

We won’t sign formenton for the same reason other teams won’t trade anything for him. Let alone a “top 4 d man”

Yak said:
I am really not sure about Myers, last week I seen him take like 4-5 penalties in a game. Also lost his man that led to a goal. The team has been bad and that was a small sample size but scares me.
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Yeah he’s bad man. Been bad for a very very very long time

As anyone seen habs defence. How many “top 4 d” do they have.
 
Ouroboros said:
The Senators have 4.5M of dead money sitting in the minors doing absolutely nothing for them, and that's going to continue into next season. They're going to want to clear that off the books, but they are no longer in a position where giving up futures to dump him makes any sense.

I have to assume that Vancouver's plan is to make this swap, pick up an asset and then buy Zaitsev out this summer. There is basically no change in Myers cap hit if he's bought out [6M vs 5.33M] but Zaitsev drops from 4.5M to 2.83M. Going from 6M down to 2.83M opens up a decent chuck of cap space for them. If they have to retain it probably gets too thin for it to be worth their while.

I think there is still a perception that Tyler Myers is a good player. I don't believe he is, but perception is reality in these cases. Every time a GM looks at him he's 6'8", y'know? That goes a long way in the NHL. He would clearly be the more desirable piece among the two.

The Senators probably have no idea who will play RD for them next season. Zub is a UFA. Hamonic is both a UFA and not very good. They've clearly closed the book on Zaitsev. Surely they can't be penciling in Lassi Thomson. They kind of need some bodies.
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It’s still a weird seal. Myers is awful.
 
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