Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXIX

[Hale The Villain]

Myers for Zaitsev is an off-season move that makes some sense for both sides.

After his 5M bonus Myers may have some value to a budget team on a 1M salary, assuming we're not going to spend right up to the cap in salary even after new ownership takes over.

Makes no sense for it to happen now.

 

[scout20]

Trade Alex DeBrincat to the Canes for RD prospect Scott Morrow take savings sign Zub.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Trade Alex DeBrincat to the Canes for RD prospect Scott Morrow take savings sign Zub.

Surely as part of package which includes at least a 1st round pick +

 

[NyQuil]

How can you "guarantee" that?

I’ve been on this board for 17 years.

 

[HSF]

2LDs leaves 4 other positions open. RD are the hardest position to fill in the NHL while wingers are the easiest to fill.

If one of Grieg, Boucher, Sokolov, Jarventie, + whomever we draft this year, are not able to enter the top 6 by the time Giroux is no longer serviceable, we will have taken a step back in our development ability.

Trading Cat or Bath, while addressing D at the same time is a step forward. Trading either of them without doing that is a step back but I'm not proposing that

Hopefully if we bite the bullet on Myers, Allvin is dumb enough to throw in a piece like Hoglander in lol

greig is the only one with top 6 potential and even he is not a lock

Getting a RD does not require trading a Debrincat. We saw Marino go for Smith and a 3rd.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Trade Alex DeBrincat to the Canes for RD prospect Scott Morrow take savings sign Zub.

IF we are trading Cat I'm sending him to NYR for 1st+Schneider+another prospect

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

IF we are trading Cat I'm sending him to NYR for 1st+Schneider+another prospect

Agreed. This is the course of action I would take. Or something akin to it.

Aside from that, there's a very real possibility of perhaps getting DeBrincat 8 or less longterm and I would rather pursue that.

 

[HSF]

IF we are trading Cat I'm sending him to NYR for 1st+Schneider+another prospect

fix one hole to create another

 

[Senscore]

IF we are trading Cat I'm sending him to NYR for 1st+Schneider+another prospect

Do you really think we could get 1st or 2nd overall for Cat?

 

[Ice-Tray]

Today I would take Boston.
McAvoy > Chabot
Lindhom >> Zub
Carlo < Sanderson
Clifton > Hamonic

Hells no.

Sanderson > McAvoy
Chabot > Lindholm
Zub > Carlo

The rest….

Myers for Zaitsev is an off-season move that makes some sense for both sides.

After his 5M bonus Myers may have some value to a budget team on a 1M salary, assuming we're not going to spend right up to the cap in salary even after new ownership takes over.

Makes no sense for it to happen now.

Sure it does. It’s a shake up to add a player that we may actually use in an NHL game. We have shown that spending dollars is not a huge deal right now so signing bonus stuff should not be a fan concern at the moment.

 

[GCK]

greig is the only one with top 6 potential and even he is not a lock

Getting a RD does not require trading a Debrincat. We saw Marino go for Smith and a 3rd.

People keep bringing that up but fail to understand Pittsburgh was not going to accept any money back and they wanted a waiver exempt player who they can put in the AHL. Ty Smith is going to replace Dumoulin next season.

Hells no.

Sanderson > McAvoy
Chabot > Lindholm
Zub > Carlo

The rest….

Lol. Good one

 

[HSF]

People keep bringing that up but fail to understand Pittsburgh was not going to accept any money back and they wanted a waiver exempt player who they can put in the AHL. Ty Smith is going to replace Dumoulin next season.


Lol. Good one

I think the basis of what I am saying is that the Sens have two cornerstones in Sanderson and Chabot. What they need is a RD that can compliment either of those guys. I don't think we need to add elite RD where we need to give up a top line LW for.

greig, thomson, jbd should all be on the table for a deal like how ty smith was for njd

 

[Sun God Nika]

We need to sign Zub really bad. Like offer pay him with term and $$$ if that’s the only way it gets done . The team will take a step backwards without this guy.


If he is committed to testing the market the sens can’t take that risk . This guy can easily fetch u a first rounder + at the deadline .

 

[Ice-Tray]

People keep bringing that up but fail to understand Pittsburgh was not going to accept any money back and they wanted a waiver exempt player who they can put in the AHL. Ty Smith is going to replace Dumoulin next season.


Lol. Good one

You’re reactionary and wrong.

But… this season has sucked so I understand.

 

[Alex1234]

Sanderson is not better then McAVoy lol

 

[Silencio]

Sanderson probably will be better than McAvoy. But not yet.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Sanderson is not better then McAVoy lol

Sanderson is better …. Than…. Pretty much every other Ottawa DMan…. And yes right now he’s not better……than……McAvoy…. But let’s give him a few seasons, and then compare.

 

[GCK]

You’re reactionary and wrong.

But… this season has sucked so I understand.

Straight from Hextall’s mouth

With Kris Letang on a new six-year deal, John Marino in the second of a six-year $26.4 million deal, Marcus Pettersson in the second of a five-year deal with a $4.025 million AAV, and veteran Brian Dumoulin in the final year of a six-year contract which also pays north of $4 million, the Penguins have some meaty contracts on the blue line.

But not necessarily easily moveable options.

“… We have nine defensemen. That’s a couple too many,” Hextall said. “If we could move a defenseman maybe for a forward, something like that, or if we could move a defenseman for futures, those are the types of things that we’ll be looking at. I don’t know when or where…”

 

[operasen]

I think the basis of what I am saying is that the Sens have two cornerstones in Sanderson and Chabot. What they need is a RD that can compliment either of those guys. I don't think we need to add elite RD where we need to give up a top line LW for.

greig, thomson, jbd should all be on the table for a deal like how ty smith was for njd

I agree here and signing Zub is a top priority. We’ll need $$ for that as his cost is increasing all the time.
Since this season is basically a clone of the last two, we should end up with another high pick and unless we trade down or reach, RD will not be on the table to draft. Another good forward will be.
That’s why I’m willing to overpay for a potential elite RD now. If Anaheim wanted to move a 20 year old No 6 overall pick for an established elite forward, another former 1st (Brannstrom or Boucher) and our 2024 1st, I’d do it. If it turned out to be Drysdale, I’d add in a prospect (not named Ridley) to seal the deal.
We get a super Top 4 plus a Kleven, JBD, Thomson, etc to add to the Hamonic/Holden extras we already have. I know that’s overpay but what we have and coming does not solve our D issue.
And we still need a better D corps coach.

 

[Ice-Tray]

People keep bringing that up but fail to understand Pittsburgh was not going to accept any money back and they wanted a waiver exempt player who they can put in the AHL. Ty Smith is going to replace Dumoulin next season.


Lol. Good one

Which one of those trades would you make?

Would you trade Sanderson for MacAvoy?

Would you trade Chabot for Lindholm?

Would you trade Zub for Carlo?

I wouldn’t make any of those trades, fine if you would, but to me it’s not an ‘lol’

Sanderson is not better then McAVoy lol

Lol away dude, but would you trade Sanderson for him right now? 20 games into Sanderson’s career and it’s a hells no for me.

 

[UglyPuckling]

Straight from Hextall’s mouth

With Kris Letang on a new six-year deal, John Marino in the second of a six-year $26.4 million deal, Marcus Pettersson in the second of a five-year deal with a $4.025 million AAV, and veteran Brian Dumoulin in the final year of a six-year contract which also pays north of $4 million, the Penguins have some meaty contracts on the blue line.

But not necessarily easily moveable options.

“… We have nine defensemen. That’s a couple too many,” Hextall said. “If we could move a defenseman maybe for a forward, something like that, or if we could move a defenseman for futures, those are the types of things that we’ll be looking at. I don’t know when or where…”

With COVID and a flat cap for several years, those kind of kind of situations arose.

With the cap going up, I think many teams by and large will be in better shape and you'll see fewer of these kind of deals. I think you can get mesmerized thinking these kind of deals for RDs will always be bountiful.

 

[Salva Mea]

i have no problem if we trade debrincant, +9M for us is too much, hi is divine shooter(scorer) but other things is not looks like +9m ... +pinto factor,

easly also branny, lassi and jbd ..


point is, sing zub 4-6 range... search good top 4 RHD ( dont care 4-7 m ) we neeed this too much is fact..

+add 3-4 liners 2-3 1-3 m range player, who can skating and forecheck ( watson and kelly is meh)

 

[Micklebot]

Which one of those trades would you make?

Would you trade Sanderson for MacAvoy?

Would you trade Chabot for Lindholm?

Would you trade Zub for Carlo?

I wouldn’t make any of those trades, fine if you would, but to me it’s not an ‘lol’

To be fair, he was responding in the context of this season only. You seem to be responding in a long term context which obviously has different considerations. I'd trade Chabot for McAvoy, which is the comparison he initially set up, but not Sanderson.

Interestingly, I think the groups aren't exactly night and day even looking through the context of today only, I personally think the Bos group is a bit better, but their team is just playing so much better as a group, they get far better support from the forwards, and that to me is why they are at the top of the standings. Part of that is personnel with guys like Bergeron, and part of that is coaching.

 

[UglyPuckling]

I think the basis of what I am saying is that the Sens have two cornerstones in Sanderson and Chabot. What they need is a RD that can compliment either of those guys. I don't think we need to add elite RD where we need to give up a top line LW for.

greig, thomson, jbd should all be on the table for a deal like how ty smith was for njd

COVID and a flat cap for several years affected the trade market. The cap is destined to rise significantly within the next couple of years, so I think you'll see a different market place and fewer of these kind of deals. Acquiring RDs hasn't been easy for multiple years aside from this unusual market that we've been in lately.

 

[Ice-Tray]

To be fair, he was responding in the context of this season only. You seem to be responding in a long term context which obviously has different considerations. I'd trade Chabot for McAvoy, which is the comparison he initially set up, but not Sanderson.

Interestingly, I think the groups aren't exactly night and day even looking through the context of today only, I personally think the Bos group is a bit better, but their team is just playing so much better as a group, they get far better support from the forwards, and that to me is why they are at the top of the standings. Part of that is personnel with guys like Bergeron, and part of that is coaching.

That’s fair, but wasn’t the original question whether we would trade our entire D for Boston’s? Then he had the players lined up in such a way that our best assets weren’t matched to theirs. I agree that Chabot for MacAvoy might be doable, but that’s their top asset for our second best asset at this point.

I’m not trying to take a massive dump on their D squad, but when you align the assets top to bottom, I don’t think it’s a good trade for us, and as the games tick by I think it becomes more clear how good Sanderson is/going to be.