Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXIX

[Sensinitis]

Not going after Marino for such an affordable price was a big mistake. Basically makes the same as Chychrun

Chabot-Zub
Sanderson-Marino
Brannstrom-Hamonic
Holden

Everyone slots in perfectly, just like our forwards before Norris got injured.

Hamonic has been more than adequate in his role and Zub’s injury has hurt the team but that’s why you need more depth and can’t count on ****ing Zaitsev if there are injuries

 

[Yak]

Dorion is too blame here, between many years of bad defense and for most part bad drafting of defense. He got us in this mess and needs to get us out of it.

 

[Cosmix]

Dorion is too blame here, between many years of bad defense and for most part bad drafting of defense. He got us in this mess and needs to get us out of it.

Yes to the first part but no to the second. Dorion has had time to manage the roster and failed. It is time to get a competent GM to do the job.

 

[Cosmix]

Yeah, DeMelo may not be a top 4 RHD on paper, but if he can complement Chabot like he did a couple of years ago, then who cares?

Chabot - DeMelo
Sanderson - Zub
Brannstrom - Hamonic

Looks perfect to me. Still wish we had someone who has a good shot from the blue line.

Looks "better" but. not "perfect".

 

[Que]

I don’t think Marino wanted to play here. I don’t think he wants to play in Canada. Oilers traded him for a 6th after they developed him for 3+ seasons.

Marino went to Harvard. I suspect he’d rather die than pay Canadian taxes. Let it go friends.

Even when we get Zub back we’re thin on D after just 1 injury.

Let’s hope we can sell Lou on Formy’s speed and steal Mayfield. I mean at this point I’d risk team chemistry by trading back for EK.

 

[Cosmix]

Winnipeg has DeMelo Schmidt Dillon and Stanley all potentially available

I wonder if Dorion will trade Formenton for one of them?

 

[Hale The Villain]

I don’t think Marino wanted to play here. I don’t think he wants to play in Canada. Oilers traded him for a 6th after they developed him for 3+ seasons.

Marino went to Harvard. I suspect he’d rather die than pay Canadian taxes. Let it go friends.

Even when we get Zub back we’re thin on D after just 1 injury.

Let’s hope we can sell Lou on Formy’s speed and steal Mayfield. I mean at this point I’d risk team chemistry by trading back for EK.

He wouldn't have had a choice. He's signed for 5 years and has no trade protection.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Not going after Marino for such an affordable price was a big mistake. Basically makes the same as Chychrun

Chabot-Zub
Sanderson-Marino
Brannstrom-Hamonic
Holden

Everyone slots in perfectly, just like our forwards before Norris got injured.

Hamonic has been more than adequate in his role and Zub’s injury has hurt the team but that’s why you need more depth and can’t count on ****ing Zaitsev if there are injuries

Unfortunately I think Hamonic and his 3.25M salary may be a reason Marino isn't a Senator right now.

We probably couldn't afford to add Marino's salary without dumping Zaitsev, which Pittsburgh couldn't afford.

Wouldn't have had to dump Zaitsev if we hadn't jumped the gun and traded for Hamonic before the off-season.

It's probably why there was a lot more smoke about Chychrun even though Marino would have been a better fit - AZ was willing to take on Zaitsev.

 

[Yak]

Unfortunately I think Hamonic and his 3.25M salary may be a reason Marino isn't a Senator right now.

We probably couldn't afford to add Marino's salary without dumping Zaitsev, which Pittsburgh couldn't afford.

Wouldn't have had to dump Zaitsev if we hadn't jumped the gun and traded for Hamonic before the off-season.

It's probably why there was a lot more smoke about Chychrun even though Marino would have been a better fit - AZ was willing to take on Zaitsev.

Mayfield is exactly what we need, Forms or Prospects whatever it takes we need to get this defense right!

 

[DaveMatthew]

Unfortunately I think Hamonic and his 3.25M salary may be a reason Marino isn't a Senator right now.

We probably couldn't afford to add Marino's salary without dumping Zaitsev, which Pittsburgh couldn't afford.

Wouldn't have had to dump Zaitsev if we hadn't jumped the gun and traded for Hamonic before the off-season.

It's probably why there was a lot more smoke about Chychrun even though Marino would have been a better fit - AZ was willing to take on Zaitsev.

It's also entirely possible that Pittsburgh liked Ty Smith more than anything we had to offer. Recent 1st round pick with NHL experience who was still waiver eligible.

Brannstrom couldn't be sent down while JBD/Thomson aren't as good.

 

[bicboi64]

I don’t think Marino wanted to play here. I don’t think he wants to play in Canada. Oilers traded him for a 6th after they developed him for 3+ seasons.

Marino went to Harvard. I suspect he’d rather die than pay Canadian taxes. Let it go friends.

Maybe the Oilers weren't happy with his development trajectory, besides Edmonton has awful player development relative to a lot of teams. Them giving up on anyone doesn't say much.

Marino is cost controlled, has limited trade protection, and for some reason Pens thought Petry was an upgrade. Getting him would have been more helpful to the roster than acquiring Talbot and DeBrincat.

 

[JD1]

It's entirely possible that NJ had more to offer than we did to acquire Marino. It's also possible that Bowness wasn't positive on Marino. It's also entirely possible that the team felt Marino wasn't going to really move the yardsticks

All this talk that Dorion needs to improve the D. The biggest thing that Dorion could do to improve our D is sit down with Thomas Chabot and have a heart to heart.

PD - do you like playing in Ottawa Thomas and do you want to stay?
TC - ya I like it here, think we can win
PD - well Thomas, we're not winning and you're one of the biggest reasons why. You need to figure it out. Quickly. You watching Jake? Do you see how he might be our best D by Christmas? If Jake is our best defensive LD in the New Year and there's not much difference between you and Brannstrom on the PP, I can't keep an 8M D man around. That money is better spent elsewhere. So you think about it and see what you can do to elevate your game to match your paycheque.

That conversation might improve the team a hell of a lot more than upgrading Zaitsev

 

[Snowwy]

It's entirely possible that NJ had more to offer than we did to acquire Marino. It's also possible that Bowness wasn't positive on Marino. It's also entirely possible that the team felt Marino wasn't going to really move the yardsticks

All this talk that Dorion needs to improve the D. The biggest thing that Dorion could do to improve our D is sit down with Thomas Chabot and have a heart to heart.

PD - do you like playing in Ottawa Thomas and do you want to stay?
TC - ya I like it here, think we can win
PD - well Thomas, we're not winning and you're one of the biggest reasons why. You need to figure it out. Quickly. You watching Jake? Do you see how he might be our best D by Christmas? If Jake is our best defensive LD in the New Year and there's not much difference between you and Brannstrom on the PP, I can't keep an 8M D man around. That money is better spent elsewhere. So you think about it and see what you can do to elevate your game to match your paycheque.

That conversation might improve the team a hell of a lot more than upgrading Zaitsev

 

[Silencio]

Deciding that a player doesn't want to pay Canadian taxes because they went to Harvard is certainly a take.

 

[Alex1234]

Formenton and WAS 2nd if needed but we need Mayfield

 

[Union2017]

It's entirely possible that NJ had more to offer than we did to acquire Marino. It's also possible that Bowness wasn't positive on Marino. It's also entirely possible that the team felt Marino wasn't going to really move the yardsticks

All this talk that Dorion needs to improve the D. The biggest thing that Dorion could do to improve our D is sit down with Thomas Chabot and have a heart to heart.

PD - do you like playing in Ottawa Thomas and do you want to stay?
TC - ya I like it here, think we can win
PD - well Thomas, we're not winning and you're one of the biggest reasons why. You need to figure it out. Quickly. You watching Jake? Do you see how he might be our best D by Christmas? If Jake is our best defensive LD in the New Year and there's not much difference between you and Brannstrom on the PP, I can't keep an 8M D man around. That money is better spent elsewhere. So you think about it and see what you can do to elevate your game to match your paycheque.

That conversation might improve the team a hell of a lot more than upgrading Zaitsev

And that's been a perfect example of how you should not talk to your $8M player. Or, actually, any of your players, starting with minor hockey teams.

 

[NyQuil]

The biggest thing that Dorion could do to improve our D is sit down with Thomas Chabot and have a heart to heart.

PD - do you like playing in Ottawa Thomas and do you want to stay?
TC - ya I like it here, think we can win
PD - well Thomas, we're not winning and you're one of the biggest reasons why. You need to figure it out. Quickly. You watching Jake? Do you see how he might be our best D by Christmas? If Jake is our best defensive LD in the New Year and there's not much difference between you and Brannstrom on the PP, I can't keep an 8M D man around. That money is better spent elsewhere. So you think about it and see what you can do to elevate your game to match your paycheque.

That conversation might improve the team a hell of a lot more than upgrading Zaitsev

I mean, I played sports, not at this kind of competitive level.

My father would keep a running tab of all the mistakes I made in the game, and bring them up on the ride home. He's a great guy, but not a very positive sports fan. He knows it, and he's much better with his grandchildren.

The reality is that I remembered every single one of them even before they were brought up. No one was more aware of my own issues with my play than me.

I don't think Chabot believes he's playing very well right now.

The real question is why? Is it a slump? Is it some kind of nagging injury? Is it the minutes?

I don't buy the partner excuse because a lot of his issues are when he is controlling the puck which has nothing to do with Zaitsev or Zub or whoever.

All players go through stretches of rough play - it's particularly bad at the beginning of the season when it's the only sample of play for the year thus far.

I think the solution is to reduce his minutes and responsibilities until he shows signs of improvement. I know the talking heads on the broadcast the other day were incredulous that Chabot wasn't out for the PP but he's not adding anything and until he shows signs of doing so, it should be someone else's job.

 

[Sens Vader]

I dont think we can afford a 4.5+m dman long term

Chabot Sanderson Zub are the big three

get another steady dman under 4m and hope Brann JBD Lassi and Kleven keep improving

 

[God Says No]

Formenton and WAS 2nd if needed but we need Mayfield

Is Mayfield even available? Why would NYI trade him?

 

[Alex1234]

I dont think we can afford a 4.5+m dman long term

Chabot Sanderson Zub are the big three

get another steady dman under 4m and hope Brann JBD Lassi and Kleven keep improving

Mayfield

 

[Alex1234]

Is Mayfield even available? Why would NYI trade him?

Don't know until its done but he's as good as possible as it gets
UFA, cheap contract, big stay at home RHD

He will ask more $ 4 sure
Can we afford I don't know
Can we pry him from the Islanders I don't know
But who else can we target reasonably?

 

[Xspyrit]

Seriously, there's no reason we can't build a good defense around Chabot, Sanderson, Zub, Brannstrom, JBD and maybe others (Kleven, Thomson, Hamara, etc)

This coaching staff just can't do it. Outside of most of them needing more experience, it's not the players.

And it's really not just about D-men, forwards have a large role in "team defense" too.

 

[bert]

Seriously, there's no reason we can't build a good defense around Chabot, Sanderson, Zub, Brannstrom, JBD and maybe others (Kleven, Thomson, Hamara, etc)

This coaching staff just can't do it. Outside of most of them needing more experience, it's not the players.

And it's really not just about D-men, forwards have a large role in "team defense" too.

I mean it really depends on whats happening with Chabot. If he was playing up to his capabilities were probalby not even talking about needing a top 4 d man. The 2nd pair has been good. Its been the first pair that is the largest reason for this teams losing record. The coaching staff isnt playing for him. Its a cop out. Be honest in your evaluations when you're watching the games. He is blowing coverage, getting beat, turning pucks over. Running around in his own end, flubbing passes missing passes.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

I mean, I played sports, not at this kind of competitive level.

My father would keep a running tab of all the mistakes I made in the game, and bring them up on the ride home. He's a great guy, but not a very positive sports fan. He knows it, and he's much better with his grandchildren.

The reality is that I remembered every single one of them even before they were brought up. No one was more aware of my own issues with my play than me.

I don't think Chabot believes he's playing very well right now.

The real question is why? Is it a slump? Is it some kind of nagging injury? Is it the minutes?

I don't buy the partner excuse because a lot of his issues are when he is controlling the puck which has nothing to do with Zaitsev or Zub or whoever.

All players go through stretches of rough play - it's particularly bad at the beginning of the season when it's the only sample of play for the year thus far.

I think the solution is to reduce his minutes and responsibilities until he shows signs of improvement. I know the talking heads on the broadcast the other day were incredulous that Chabot wasn't out for the PP but he's not adding anything and until he shows signs of doing so, it should be someone else's job.

His inability to release a shot quickly has been around since forever. I mean he has got to know that that second or two that he holds onto the puck either gets blocked/deflected or turned over. How has he not figured this out by now?

 

[TheNewEra]

at the very least bring back demelo. Not a top 4 dman per say but we know he fits with Chabot

Chabot-Demelo
Sanderson-Zub
Brannstrom-Holden/Hamonic