Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXII

[Alf Silfversson]

The thing I like about Kleven is that he has some nastiness on the ice. It’s frustrating to watch big guys who don’t use their size in a physical manner. Can’t coach physicality into a player.

For sure. And he's getting better with the puck, but I still have serious doubts he'll be capable of processing NHL speed well enough to make any kind of plays in transition.

He's making progress though so hopefully he figures it all out.

 

[GCK]

For sure. And he's getting better with the puck, but I still have serious doubts he'll be capable of processing NHL speed well enough to make any kind of plays in transition.

He's making progress though so hopefully he figures it all out.

I just need him to be a hammer on the 3rd pair. Don’t care if he’s off the glass and out every single time he gets the puck.

 

[Bevans]

I think Senators should pivot on Chychrun and try to target Dysin Mayo. He's got 3 years at about 900k. He's RHD. He's extremely physical, blocks everything, and survived 3 min a game on Coyotes PK.

Start him on 3rd pair with brannstrom. Next year move him up to second pair, let hamonic walk.

Keep some powder dry for trade deadline, extending debrincat, and then long term Pinto money.

This way senators have 3 LH puck movers, 3 RH defensive D.

They don't need a chychrun. They need a Mayo.

 

[PatrickEaves]

I think Senators should pivot on Chychrun and try to target Dysin Mayo. He's got 3 years at about 900k. He's RHD. He's extremely physical, blocks everything, and survived 3 min a game on Coyotes PK.

Start him on 3rd pair with brannstrom. Next year move him up to second pair, let hamonic walk.

Keep some powder dry for trade deadline, extending debrincat, and then long term Pinto money.

This way senators have 3 LH puck movers, 3 RH defensive D.

They don't need a chychrun. They need a Mayo.

You spelled Scott Mayfield wrong.

 

[Bevans]

You spelled Scott Mayfield wrong.

I spelled Scott mayfield younger, cheaper, more cost controlled, and more physical.

You can have 1 year of Mayfield, I'll take 3 years of Mayo.

 

[Blotto71]

I think Senators should pivot on Chychrun and try to target Dysin Mayo. He's got 3 years at about 900k. He's RHD. He's extremely physical, blocks everything, and survived 3 min a game on Coyotes PK.

Start him on 3rd pair with brannstrom. Next year move him up to second pair, let hamonic walk.

Keep some powder dry for trade deadline, extending debrincat, and then long term Pinto money.

This way senators have 3 LH puck movers, 3 RH defensive D.

They don't need a chychrun. They need a Mayo.

I proposed targeting him on July 5th, so I'm on board.

Zaitsev + pick + prospect

Let LA (over)pay for JC and then be upset when he only plays 50-60 games per year.

 

[Senovision]

I proposed targeting him on July 5th, so I'm on board.

Zaitsev + pick + prospect

Let LA (over)pay for JC and then be upset when he only plays 50-60 games per year.

Exactly he has only played in about 330 of 430 games so far. A lot of injuries your a young guy.
Also he won't be available for the first 15 games.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

I spelled Scott mayfield younger, cheaper, more cost controlled, and more physical.

You can have 1 year of Mayfield, I'll take 3 years of Mayo.

What makes you think Coyotes will let him go?

 

[Bevans]

What makes you think Coyotes will let him go?

They may not, but he's 26, so hopefully they prefer a younger group. The Senators have spent the past year ironing out which prospects the Coyotes like. So leverage that.

 

[bicboi64]

Trading with the yotes is so hard because its a team without any direction. Aside from the one year with Hall, they're just accumulating picks and picks with no apparent direction. I'd love to get Mayo but being on a cheap ELC deal might be the reason they keep him. Its so frustrating, they have the capspace to weaponize and take our shite contracts.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I think Senators should pivot on Chychrun and try to target Dysin Mayo. He's got 3 years at about 900k. He's RHD. He's extremely physical, blocks everything, and survived 3 min a game on Coyotes PK.

Start him on 3rd pair with brannstrom. Next year move him up to second pair, let hamonic walk.

Keep some powder dry for trade deadline, extending debrincat, and then long term Pinto money.

This way senators have 3 LH puck movers, 3 RH defensive D.

They don't need a chychrun. They need a Mayo.

Mayo is not a top 4 DMan. He can be a good 3RD but that's his upside IMO. We can't go into next year downgrading at Top 4 RD.

As an aside....

EDIT: Food poisoning.

 

[HSF]

I think Senators should pivot on Chychrun and try to target Dysin Mayo. He's got 3 years at about 900k. He's RHD. He's extremely physical, blocks everything, and survived 3 min a game on Coyotes PK.

Start him on 3rd pair with brannstrom. Next year move him up to second pair, let hamonic walk.

Keep some powder dry for trade deadline, extending debrincat, and then long term Pinto money.

This way senators have 3 LH puck movers, 3 RH defensive D.

They don't need a chychrun. They need a Mayo.

Chychrun would be a massive upgrade over Mayo

 

[Big Muddy]

You spelled Scott Mayfield wrong.

Dysin Mayo has played 67 games but was drafted by Arizona in 2014. I'm not super familiar with his game, but would wonder if this is a viable good 2nd pair RD solution.

 

[Bevans]

Chychrun would be a massive upgrade over Mayo

It's just a matter of what Ottawa needs. I'm coming around to the argument that a RH defensive dman is a higher priority, especially with Mayo's great contract.

Chychrun would be far more expensive for that massive upgrade.

 

[aragorn]

I think a Kleven - Grans 3rd pairing would be an ideal young tandem for the team's future, obviously neither are ready yet, but both I think are close within two yrs IMO. I doubt they go that way & will likely have one of JBD & Thomson on the team soon enough. I like Scott Mayfield too & he is a UFA that could be available at the TDL, he would definitely fill a need to finish the yr at the least & may not be all that expensive.

Guennette should be an interesting guy to watch this yr to see if he can up his game to challenge those two & get his name in the mix. They need something at RD whether it's more skill or more size & toughness remains to be seen or both. I don't think Chychrun fits our needs & they should be trading for need & Scott Mayfield before the TDL makes the most sense IMO. One of JBD & Thomson, most likely JBD should replace Hamonic for next season.

 

[CornerStone61]

Mayo is not a top 4 DMan. He can be a good 3RD but that's his upside IMO. We can't go into next year downgrading at Top 4 RD.

As an aside....

 

[GCK]

I think a Kleven - Grans 3rd pairing would be an ideal young tandem for the team's future, obviously neither are ready yet, but both I think are close within two yrs IMO. I doubt they go that way & will likely have one of JBD & Thomson on the team soon enough. I like Scott Mayfield too & he is a UFA that could be available at the TDL, he would definitely fill a need to finish the yr at the least & may not be all that expensive.

Guennette should be an interesting guy to watch this yr to see if he can up his game to challenge those two & get his name in the mix. They need something at RD whether it's more skill or more size & toughness remains to be seen or both. I don't think Chychrun fits our needs & they should be trading for need & Scott Mayfield before the TDL makes the most sense IMO. One of JBD & Thomson, most likely JBD should replace Hamonic for next season.

Why on earth would LA move Grans ? He’s just starting his ELC and is waiver exempt for 3 year. Makes no sense.

 

[kinghock]

We should try & grab a big young 3rd pairing RD that might not cost as much in Helge Grans from LA, he aready looks close to being NHL ready.

Might not cost as much in Helge Grans from LA?

Kings know his value to themselves and to other teams.

Grans is only one from LA D prospects with good size.

Elite goalie prospect or physical LD with size will be the price for Grans.

Why on earth would LA move Grans ? He’s just starting his ELC and is waiver exempt for 3 year. Makes no sense.

Might not cost as much in Helge Grans from LA?
Kings know his value to themselves and to other teams.
Grans is only one from LA D prospects with good size.
Elite goalie prospect or physical LD with size will be the price for Grans.

 

[Silencio]

Leaf fans constantly point to Ottawa's "shitty" defense as proof that we really haven't improved as much as we think, but their blueline aside from Rielly ain't exactly all-world either. Giordano was great, but he's 39 now. Sandin could be great, but is still pretty raw. Never mind Mete currently pushing for a regular spot...lol.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Why on earth would LA move Grans ? He’s just starting his ELC and is waiver exempt for 3 year. Makes no sense.

As much as Kings fans like to pretend they'll keep all of their RDs - Doughty, Clarke, Roy, Durzi, Spence, Grans and Walker - something has to give.

Maybe one of those guys will make a successful transition to the left-side, but it's likely that a couple of them will be on the move at some point within the next 1-2 years.

 

[Silencio]

So much for that option next summer:

 

[kinghock]

As much as Kings fans like to pretend they'll keep all of their RDs - Doughty, Clarke, Roy, Durzi, Spence, Grans and Walker - something has to give.

Maybe one of those guys will make a successful transition to the left-side, but it's likely that a couple of them will be on the move at some point within the next 1-2 years.

You can have Walker for 3rd round pick

You can have Durzi for 2nd round pick

You can have Roy for 1st round pick

 

[JD1]

Leaf fans constantly point to Ottawa's "shitty" defense as proof that we really haven't improved as much as we think, but their blueline aside from Rielly ain't exactly all-world either. Giordano was great, but he's 39 now. Sandin could be great, but is still pretty raw. Never mind Mete currently pushing for a regular spot...lol.

I don't think anyone outside of a Leafs homer would credit Reilly being better than Chabot. From there when you go down their list, Brodie, Muzzin and Gio are 32 ,33 and 39 respectively. Benn is 35. Holl is 30. There's the potential for that lineup to be average and there's the potential for it to be a disaster if a step is lost by a few of those players.

 

[SensHulk]

So much for that option next summer:

I know we all marvel at the hot Pierre summer moves, rightfully so, but how do you not declare Brad Treliving the winner? Went from having his two best players wanting to leave town and somehow got even better in the process of replacing them (AND signing them long term to boot). Gotta marvel at this wizardry, he wins in my books

 

[DaveMatthew]

Leaf fans constantly point to Ottawa's "shitty" defense as proof that we really haven't improved as much as we think, but their blueline aside from Rielly ain't exactly all-world either. Giordano was great, but he's 39 now. Sandin could be great, but is still pretty raw. Never mind Mete currently pushing for a regular spot...lol.

Some Leafs fans will tell you that Ottawa's goaltending and defense is not good enough to compete for a wildcard playoff spot. Then they'll say, with a straight face, that their defense and Matt Murray is good enough to win a Stanley Cup. Madness.