Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXII

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Bevans

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I would like to target Zach Whitecloud from Vegas. He is on a sweetheart of a contract. If we are going big game hunting for a RD with a significant acquisition cost I think we should be kicking the tires on him to see if we can pry him loose.
I like him too. Shot blocking machine.
 
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I would like to target Zach Whitecloud from Vegas. He is on a sweetheart of a contract. If we are going big game hunting for a RD with a significant acquisition cost I think we should be kicking the tires on him to see if we can pry him loose.

Whitecloud is a good old boy from Brandon Manitoba, where McCrimmon lived, coached and GMed for over 20 years.

He collects prairie boys like pokemon. Whitecloud, Stone, Patrick, Thompson, Kolesar, Brooks are from Manitoba or played for the Wheat Kings, and then there's another dozen or so guys from Sask and Alberta on the team too.

Don't think Whitecloud is an option. Maybe if we put former Wheatie Greig on the table.
 
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HSF

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This removes one of the last 2? Outstanding big complaints about Dorion…. I think we’re down to Stepan for a 2ND.
Dorions list of mess ups is long

maybe he can finally get rid of Zaitsev. thank god MDZ is going
 

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Whitecloud is a good old boy from Brandon Manitoba, where McCrimmon lived, coached and GMed for over 20 years.

He collects prairie boys like pokemon. Whitecloud, Stone, Patrick, Thompson, Kolesar, Brooks are from Manitoba or played for the Wheat Kings, and then there's another dozen or so guys from Sask and Alberta on the team too.

Don't think Whitecloud is an option. Maybe if we put former Wheatie Greig on the table.

So you're saying there's a chance. My feeling is the price for Chychrun and Weegar is high. He won't be free. Maybe Greig is a high side fair price and is lower than what is being discussed here for Chychrun or Weegar.
 

Sweatred

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Ah yes here comes another one those Balanced views posters

You’ll have to provide that balance for me and update the current worst things were mad about Dorion for .. I’ll take 5 or 10 or whatever you think.

Looks like we can get Balcers back if we want him.
 

The Devilish Buffoon

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Weegar is so overrated ever since he did the Weegsy baby vids
I don't know what that is but he's been a legit top pairing DMan for at least 2 yrs now. And a successful #1 for extended stretches. If anything, I feel like some bad play in the playoffs + a Florida implosion have made him underrated.
 

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You’ll have to provide that balance for me and update the current worst things were mad about Dorion for .. I’ll take 5 or 10 or whatever you think.

Looks like we can get Balcers back if we want him.
Can you understand I don't want to be mad at Dorion ? I want him to do a good job and build a winning team. So far this off-season that is what he is doing so I personally don't give a f*** about his past mistakes. He is trending up and that is all that matters to me.
 
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Burrowsaurus

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How do you get blocked by Methot lol. Such a nice guy.
I legit don’t know. I never tweet at players although the is notorious for searching his own name. I’ve tweeted about him a few times. But nothing ever THAT bad? Once I said he deserved some norris consideration
 

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I don't know what that is but he's been a legit top pairing DMan for at least 2 yrs now. And a successful #1 for extended stretches. If anything, I feel like some bad play in the playoffs + a Florida implosion have made him underrated.
I would say neither of your first two premises are true, but then I'll get chewed out by Bert again. There's a reason they want to part with him, and it's not because he was only poor in the playoffs. I think he's a bounceback candidate, but people need to know he's a defensive liability.
 

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I would say neither of your first two premises are true, but then I'll get chewed out by Bert again. There's a reason they want to part with him, and it's not because he was only poor in the playoffs. I think he's a bounceback candidate, but people need to know he's a defensive liability.

"Want to part with him" is a huge stretch.

From what insiders have said, they want to extend him and are trying to do that. But depending on his asking price, they may not be able to considering their already tight cap situation, and Huberdeau's bargain contract expiring at the end of the year.
 

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I legit don’t know. I never tweet at players although the is notorious for searching his own name. I’ve tweeted about him a few times. But nothing ever THAT bad? Once I said he deserved some norris consideration

We know how f***ed up his hands are. Maybe his thumb slipped
 

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I would say neither of your first two premises are true, but then I'll get chewed out by Bert again. There's a reason they want to part with him, and it's not because he was only poor in the playoffs. I think he's a bounceback candidate, but people need to know he's a defensive liability.
He’s known as a good defensive d man. Stats seem to prove that? (Lots of defensive d men are bad defensively). This is first I’ve heard of defensive liability
 

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Dorion gave up a prospect we had just drafted in the 2nd for Burrows, gave him a 5M/2YR contract and then bought him out a year later

Dorion gave up a 2nd for Stepan, had to put Balcers on waivers due to a lack of forward spots, and it was an absolute flop.

Had less to do with Dahlen and Balcers being world beaters than terrible pro-scouting thinking Stepan and Burrows weren't finished.

Fair enough
 

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I would say neither of your first two premises are true, but then I'll get chewed out by Bert again. There's a reason they want to part with him, and it's not because he was only poor in the playoffs. I think he's a bounceback candidate, but people need to know he's a defensive liability.
The reason they might part with him is because he's going to get paid and they won't be able to afford it. He's been top 10 and top 15 in Norris voting the last two years, an extremely good possession player + driver of possession, including when playing a highly defensive role... some of the best shot suppression and expected + real goals against numbers in the league... physical, gets in front of pucks, good puck management... I really don't see any argument that he isn't a top pairing D, and I really don't see any argument that he didnt step up admirably in Ekblads absence.
 

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I almost drove my car into the ditch coming back from development camp I was laughing so hard when I heard SJ were not qualifying Dahlen & then they bought out Balcers. :laugh:
 
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So you're saying there's a chance. My feeling is the price for Chychrun and Weegar is high. He won't be free. Maybe Greig is a high side fair price and is lower than what is being discussed here for Chychrun or Weegar.

I'd be fine with Greig for Whitecloud, but it sounds like the Knights will need to move Martinez and his 5.25M deal to make room for Smith.

Don't think they trade both of them.
 

HSF

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I would say neither of your first two premises are true, but then I'll get chewed out by Bert again. There's a reason they want to part with him, and it's not because he was only poor in the playoffs. I think he's a bounceback candidate, but people need to know he's a defensive liability.
they are moving him cause they can't keep him due to the cap. Other than that it seems like they actually would want to bring him back

Why are we trading CBrown? Cause we can't sign him. Doesn't mean he isn't a warrior
 
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