Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

[Sens of Anarchy]

I think it’s now clear Debrincat won’t be on the roster if he accepts his QO as he won’t fit.

I'd go 7.5-8 x ?? whatever .. He'll want more but I'm moving him if that # has to be over 8

 

[Micklebot]

Even if we get rid of Talbot + Joseph and with Hamonic + Holden coming off the books?

That's keeping Joseph but no Talbot or Hamonic or Holden. Joseph would open up about 2 mil because you still need a warm body to replace him on the roster

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

That's keeping Joseph but no Talbot or Hamonic or Holden. Joseph would open up about 2 mil because you still need a warm body to replace him on the roster

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Decent availability on a replacement under 1.25m

 

[SlapJack]

That's keeping Joseph but no Talbot or Hamonic or Holden. Joseph would open up about 2 mil because you still need a warm body to replace him on the roster

Yeah it will be tight next year to add an experienced goalie, but they can roll with Forsberg/Soogard and then wait for the inevitable injury of one of our top players to gain some cap room

 

[Micklebot]

I'd go 7.5-8 x ?? whatever .. He'll want more but I'm moving him if that # has to be over 8

Not going to get him for less than Fiala imo, I'd offer him Norris' deal, Tkachuk is the absolute ceiling imo, so ~8.2

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Not going to get him for less than Fiala imo, I'd offer him Norris' deal, Tkachuk is the absolute ceiling imo, so ~8.2

close enough

 

[OmniSens]

I'd go 7.5-8 x ?? whatever .. He'll want more but I'm moving him if that # has to be over 8

For sure his number will be over 8

So basically

Zaitsev, 9 picks for DeBrincat and Chychrun. Nicely done PD!

 

[GoSenatorsGo]

I think how the team is rolling (24-14-3 since Nov 25 vs Anahiem) plus the addition of Chychrun, I could see Cat committing to the team now. Up and coming team with a strong top 6, strong defence.. playing with a superstar in Stützle.. you couldn’t really ask for anything more

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

For sure his number will be over 8

So basically

Zaitsev, 9 picks for DeBrincat and Chychrun. Nicely done PD!

I would not involve the Fixing of the Zaitsev mistake with either acquisition.

That cleanup re Zaitsev is separate He's messed up plenty.. the value paid for DBC and Chychrun in isolation was good but DBC either should have come with an extension at a good price or not be done .. he'll lose value on that one too.

Chychrun value is there

 

[Answer]

We don't need DeBrincat at 8-9 million

I'd rather have someone like C. Brown or Formenton, with Norris back and healthy. Not to mention Pinto and Greig coming along nicely, as well

 

[dmarc]

It seems like most of the big trades are done here but its time for Ottawa to third party retain some salary for expiring contracts.
Defo need to recoup some picks now

 

[Answer]

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
(someone reasonable) - Norris - Batherson
R. Grieg - Pinto - Joseph
??? - ??? - ???

Chabot - Zub
Sanderson - Chychrun
??? - ???

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Woah (in my best Keanu voice)

 

[JD1]

I would not involve the Fixing of the Zaitsev mistake with either acquisition.

That cleanup re Zaitsev is separate He's messed up plenty.. the value paid for DBC and Chychrun in isolation was good but DBC either should have come with an extension at a good price or not be done .. he'll lose value on that one too.

Chychrun value is there

This is a video game, chess piece, asset mgmt view.

That's not really how this works. Yes, it's likely that if DeBrincat doesn't sign here, we won't recoup the assets we gave up. But we've got a 20 game stretch coming here that is going to go a long way to educating our young players. We're adding. They're gaining experience. DeBrincat being here has certainly helped put us in this position so if we don't recoup the assets, there's still significant benefit from the experience

See the bit here from Alfie that was in the Athletic the other day.

"They’re not throwing away games and giving up easy goals any more,” said Alfredsson. “The product is there. They’re missing a few pieces. More than anything, I think they’re missing experience.”

They're gaining that experience.

 

[TkachukMyAho]

Woah (in my best Keanu voice)

Amazing. DRW got Sens'd so hard that their entire season was blown up after a 2 game set.

 

[Relapsing]

I'm still laughing at the wings instantly going into seller mode after the spanking we gave them. Just delightful

 

[BankStreetParade]

I'm still laughing at the wings instantly going into seller mode after the spanking we gave them. Just delightful

LOL, I said this on Tuesday:

GDT: - Red Wings @ Senators | Round 2, Fight! Edition | Tue Feb 28th 2023, 7PM | TSN5, RDS

forums.hfboards.com

Pure domination. We beat them in every single conceivable way. We just ended their season. They won't recover from these 2 games.

 

[NyQuil]

Pasta is a great scorer but he's almost a third more expensive than Tkachuk and Stutzle.

And that's still a fair deal for Pasta.

 

[Relapsing]

Pasta is a great scorer but he's almost a third more expensive than Tkachuk and Stutzle.

And that's still a fair deal for Pasta.

I'm tickled pink by the fact that no one in our top 6 is making that much for our window. Amazing

 

[BankStreetParade]

Pasta is a great scorer but he's almost a third more expensive than Tkachuk and Stutzle.

And that's still a fair deal for Pasta.

Holy Christ. What's the plan there when they inevitably become bad after Bergeron et al. are done?

 

[Relapsing]

LOL, I said this on Tuesday:

GDT: - Red Wings @ Senators | Round 2, Fight! Edition | Tue Feb 28th 2023, 7PM | TSN5, RDS

forums.hfboards.com

Feels good man. Something fell into place with this team during those two wins, and I'm so f***ing excited to see what comes of it all

 

[Mingus Dew]

Holy Christ. What's the plan there when they inevitably become bad after Bergeron et al. are done?

They had no choice to be honest.

They are cup favorites this year so I don't think they are worrying too much about the future.

 

[Bileur]

Amazing. DRW got Sens'd so hard that their entire season was blown up after a 2 game set.

Plus they decide to go get even softer lol.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

This is a video game, chess piece, asset mgmt view.

That's not really how this works. Yes, it's likely that if DeBrincat doesn't sign here, we won't recoup the assets we gave up. But we've got a 20 game stretch coming here that is going to go a long way to educating our young players. We're adding. They're gaining experience. DeBrincat being here has certainly helped put us in this position so if we don't recoup the assets, there's still significant benefit from the experience

See the bit here from Alfie that was in the Athletic the other day.

"They’re not throwing away games and giving up easy goals any more,” said Alfredsson. “The product is there. They’re missing a few pieces. More than anything, I think they’re missing experience.”

They're gaining that experience.

its just a view ... I don't play Video games .., Not sure how this is a video game perspective. But whatever ..,. Not sure you can post without an insult. And I am not sure why you think its necessary. Something I would worry about more than any hockey opinion post.

 

[BankStreetParade]

They had no choice to be honest.

They are cup favorites this year so I don't think they are worrying too much about the future.

No, I understand, he's one of the game's elite players but how good will he be without a great supporting cast around him?

I look at their window and I'm thinking it's this year and maybe next year. What do they have after that? Haven't hit on a draft pick since Swayman in 2017. Have traded away almost all their draft capital incl. 2018 1st, 2020 1st, 2022 1st, 2023 1st, 2024 1st, 2nd in 2023, 2024, 2025. I don't know what the alternative would have been but I'm really happy we don't have that problem because that's the kind of contract that decimates your team depth.