Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

[benjiv1]

Just jumping in to reiterate what I have heard.

Dorion has had lots of conversations, but nothing seems imminent, so if something happens it’s probably on Friday when teams might lower their ask.

It doesn’t sound like he’s going to make a big move. Maybe a couple of small tweaks unless someone circles back.

Again, take it all with a grain of salt, but I was specifically told it should be quiet until Friday if they do anything at all.

 

[Johnny Hanson]

You're presuming two things

1. Karlsson wants to return here (and nowhere else)
2. The team wants him back

I'm not sure either presumption is valid

Methot said he believes Karl would love to come back in the right scenario. They are great friends. Doubt that’s speculation

 

[PlayItAgain]

Just jumping in to reiterate what I have heard.

Dorion has had lots of conversations, but nothing seems imminent, so if something happens it’s probably on Friday when teams might lower their ask.

It doesn’t sound like he’s going to make a big move. Maybe a couple of small tweaks unless someone circles back.

Again, take it all with a grain of salt, but I was specifically told it should be quiet until Friday if they do anything at all.

Thats actually relieving to hear. Thats the exact approach I want them to take. Don’t force a trade if it doesn’t make sense for the long term

 

[JD1]

Methot said he believes Karl would love to come back in the right scenario. They are great friends. Doubt that’s speculation

Then you still have the other half of the equation. Does them team want him back?

Chabot at 8 AAV
Sanderson at say 7 AAV
Zub signed for a few years

How do you slide Karlsson in at a very high AAV? There's literally no way around that problem that doesn't involve moving Chabot

Just jumping in to reiterate what I have heard.

Dorion has had lots of conversations, but nothing seems imminent, so if something happens it’s probably on Friday when teams might lower their ask.

It doesn’t sound like he’s going to make a big move. Maybe a couple of small tweaks unless someone circles back.

Again, take it all with a grain of salt, but I was specifically told it should be quiet until Friday if they do anything at all.

And if they win in MSG Thursday night, that might tilt PD into acquire mode.

 

[Alex1234]

Goes against every fibre of my being to compliment anything Leafs, but in my honest detached unemotional opinion, other than the uncertainty that remains in goal, I really don't know what the heck else Dubas could do to create success. I absolutely agree with you... it is on the bench (players and coaching) if they don't progress.

Me too
Hate the Leafs with a passion
But honestly they got robbed last year and are getting robbed this season too
Book it

Just jumping in to reiterate what I have heard.

Dorion has had lots of conversations, but nothing seems imminent, so if something happens it’s probably on Friday when teams might lower their ask.

It doesn’t sound like he’s going to make a big move. Maybe a couple of small tweaks unless someone circles back.

Again, take it all with a grain of salt, but I was specifically told it should be quiet until Friday if they do anything at all.

Thanks for the info
Always appreciated

 

[Mingus Dew]

Just jumping in to reiterate what I have heard.

Dorion has had lots of conversations, but nothing seems imminent, so if something happens it’s probably on Friday when teams might lower their ask.

It doesn’t sound like he’s going to make a big move. Maybe a couple of small tweaks unless someone circles back.

Again, take it all with a grain of salt, but I was specifically told it should be quiet until Friday if they do anything at all.

As always thank you for the insight.

 

[Senovision]

I like everyone else on here am wishing for a top 4 dman who can put up points some time soon. Whether it be at the trade deadline or in the off season.
But I have another wish....a bottom 6 forward that is a poor man's Tom Wilson. Someone who can be very physical and if need be fight and be very good at fighting so as to deter other teams from taking liberties and put up 40-50 points. I don't think we have anyone in our system like that.
Those are my only two additions I think our team needs.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I like everyone else on here am wishing for a top 4 dman who can put up points some time soon. Whether it be at the trade deadline or in the off season.
But I have another wish....a bottom 6 forward that is a poor man's Tom Wilson. Someone who can be very physical and if need be fight and be very good at fighting so as to deter other teams from taking liberties and put up 40-50 points. I don't think we have anyone in our system like that.
Those are my only two additions I think our team needs.

At this point we need some killers beside Brady

 

[bert]

Methot said he believes Karl would love to come back in the right scenario. They are great friends. Doubt that’s speculation

That doesnt mean he is holding San Jose randsom to come to Ottawa or that its the preferred destination.

You're presuming two things

1. Karlsson wants to return here (and nowhere else)
2. The team wants him back

I'm not sure either presumption is valid

Can confirm its absolutely not the situation.

I am still of the opinion that if Debrincat isnt willing to sign an extension they have to trade him by friday even if they win on Thursday. They have to protect an asset that is that valuable.

 

[WallyD]

Holy cow, things are happening. Cant believe i opened this thread to page 15 and its up to page 41, wow.

I had never thought about that before, when a team retains 4% of a player salary they must use up one of their 50 roster spots while paying it? Do i have that right? An interesting wrinkle

Very interesting observation. I knew some of the retention rules (no more than 50% retained Sal and AAV, no more than 15% of cap for a team, retaining team cannot re-aquire that player for a year, 50 contracts limit, no more than 2 teams on a player retain, etc...). Never heard of the 4% retain limit consuming a contract roster spot. I searched but couldn't find that one.

 

[topshelf15]

Don’t have the cap room.


They want 2 firsts and one of Greig or Soogard supposedly.

They can want all they want...Lol our unprotected 1st and a player like Greig would be very difficult for any team to match

 

[bert]

They can want all they want...Lol our unprotected 1st and a player like Greig would be very difficult for any team to match

Not a trade this organization can afford to make at this point for the franchise.

 

[Senator Stanley]

I like everyone else on here am wishing for a top 4 dman who can put up points some time soon. Whether it be at the trade deadline or in the off season.
But I have another wish....a bottom 6 forward that is a poor man's Tom Wilson. Someone who can be very physical and if need be fight and be very good at fighting so as to deter other teams from taking liberties and put up 40-50 points. I don't think we have anyone in our system like that.
Those are my only two additions I think our team needs.

Who are you thinking of, besides Tom Wilson?

 

[bicboi64]

That deal to between LA and CBJ seems like a dick move to Quick considering what happened with Kane. I wonder if Quick hangs the skates up after this year

 

[topshelf15]

I’d be ok trading Grieg for Chychrun, it’ll hurt but it addresses a more important gap.

Hoping we can try an avoid it but if it happens I’ll convince myself you gotta give to get

Yep ditto for the 1st...Our core group at forward is signed,we need to complete the defense

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Then you still have the other half of the equation. Does them team want him back?

Chabot at 8 AAV
Sanderson at say 7 AAV
Zub signed for a few years

How do you slide Karlsson in at a very high AAV? There's literally no way around that problem that doesn't involve moving Chabot


And if they win in MSG Thursday night, that might tilt PD into acquire mode.

Well we do have an 8-9 mil unsigned forward on the doorstep of UFA that may be out of the picture by this summer. Regardless of Karlsson, the future makeup of the team is in flux until thats resolved and there could be a significant amount of available cap space even though we're likely to take ssome salary back in any trade.

 

[Senovision]

Who are you thinking of, besides Tom Wilson?

No not Tom Wilson but a poor mans Tom Wilson.
Hard to say as to who you could get, more just a dream. Ok i will throw a name out there and he has been mentioned on this board by a few posters this season....Lawson Crouse. He has had a great season this year on a horrible Arizona team. My only worry is that was it just a one off??? Also he makes $4.3 million. Because of his salary that doesn't make him a poor man's Tom Wilson.
Do you have any suggestions or anybody else on this board?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Just jumping in to reiterate what I have heard.

Dorion has had lots of conversations, but nothing seems imminent, so if something happens it’s probably on Friday when teams might lower their ask.

It doesn’t sound like he’s going to make a big move. Maybe a couple of small tweaks unless someone circles back.

Again, take it all with a grain of salt, but I was specifically told it should be quiet until Friday if they do anything at all.

Curios what the remaining convos are about lol. Chychrun dumba. I don’t think he’s in on parayko that contract is simply too large.

 

[Mingus Dew]

We just cannot give up the center depth in Greig. Look what happened this year with the Norris injury. Do we want Gambrell as our 3C lol?

Stu
Norris
Pinto
Greig
Kasty

Is phenomenal center depth.

If there is a Chychrun trade that focuses on futures and ancillary pieces like JBD, Thompson, Sokolov etc. then I think we can get something done but that's going to mean no 1st this year and it makes me uneasy. I also don't see AZ selling low.

 

[Big Muddy]

Then you still have the other half of the equation. Does them team want him back?

Chabot at 8 AAV
Sanderson at say 7 AAV
Zub signed for a few years

How do you slide Karlsson in at a very high AAV? There's literally no way around that problem that doesn't involve moving Chabot

Yes, based on all of the spreadsheets or CapFriendly tables I've seen, it gets pretty tough to squeeze in a defender (or another player) that has a cap hit greater than $6 m assuming that Debrincat stays on the roster next year. To add a player above a $6 m cap hit, there's going to have to be some sizable/significant adjustments (subtractions) that a lot of people aren't going to like.

 

[Senator Stanley]

No not Tom Wilson but a poor mans Tom Wilson.
Hard to say as to who you could get, more just a dream. Ok i will throw a name out there and he has been mentioned on this board by a few posters this season....Lawson Crouse. He has had a great season this year on a horrible Arizona team. My only worry is that was it just a one off??? Also he makes $4.3 million. Because of his salary that doesn't make him a poor man's Tom Wilson.
Do you have any suggestions or anybody else on this board?

My point is you're describing a very hard player to find. There aren't many bottom 6 guys putting up 40-50 points, let alone ones who are intimidating fighters.

This is where Trent Mann would want me to mention that Tyler Boucher, in a best case scenario, has this kind of profile.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Yes, based on all of the spreadsheets or CapFriendly tables I've seen, it gets pretty tough to squeeze in a defender (or another player) that has a cap hit greater than $6 m assuming that Debrincat stays on the roster. To add a player above a $6 m cap hit, there's going to have to be some sizable/significant adjustments (subtractions) that a lot of people aren't going to like.

So much hinges on Debrincat. This summer should be interesting.

 

[Alex1234]

That doesnt mean he is holding San Jose randsom to come to Ottawa or that its the preferred destination.


Can confirm its absolutely not the situation.

I am still of the opinion that if Debrincat isnt willing to sign an extension they have to trade him by friday even if they win on Thursday. They have to protect an asset that is that valuable.

Who would you go after to replace him?

 

[bicboi64]

Preds seem to be doing a retool at the least, hope we can get Fabbro off them

 

[Big Muddy]

So much hinges on Debrincat. This summer should be interesting.

True. That's a large & important decision they need to make. There was some info out there that they'd wait until past the TDL to make the decision on Debrincat, but I found that idea kind of interesting if not odd.