Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

[Agent Zuuuub]

They arent the same thing at all. Giroux was a UFA, the team lacks depth up front and he doesnt have a history with the organization.

They would have to trade for Karlsson and they have their top 4 d men. This is Brady's team, Karlssons history certainly could impact the leadership group whether you want to acknowledge this or not.

I am interested in building a perennial contender. This teams best players arent even in their prime yet. Burning assets on Karlsson is extremely risky and counter productive to them actually winning a cup in 3 to 4 years when the core of this team is ready.

There is no Sidney Crosby, Malkin or Kane in this group. Why dont you look at the teams that have won recently. Colorado, Tampa, Washington, Vegas all these teams had to fail several times and all their best players are in their late 20's. You arent even looking at relevant comparables.

weak leadership if thats true.

guess its more important that the boys are having fun at the bars than winning. because Karlsson's history with the club is making it overperform and winning.

And the best part is you don't even have to burn many assets on Karlsson compared to his quality. Chabot or DeBrincat trades would both offset. In which case you're selling high and buying low, net positive assets AND your team gets much better.

And what all those teams have in common is they have multiple hall of famers. and you want to say no to a hall of famer because of Chabot or Bradys feelings?

 

[bert]

weak leadership if thats true.

guess its more important that the boys are having fun at the bars than winning. because Karlsson's history with the club is making it overperform and winning.

And the best part is you don't even have to burn many assets on Karlsson compared to his quality. Chabot or DeBrincat trades would both offset. In which case you're selling high and buying low, net positive assets AND your team gets much better.

And what all those teams have in common is they have multiple hall of famers. and you want to say no to a hall of famer because of Chabot or Bradys feelings?

Tell me you never played without telling me you never played. You dont understand a dressing room. Your infatuation with Karlsson makes it impossible to look at it objectively. Brady is a way more dedicated player off the ice.

None of those teams went out and got a 33 year old rocking the room before they had made the playoffs. They built as a group.

Karlsson is 33 years old he doesn't fit with this teams core. Your original argument has already been answered. This hall of famer in Karlssons time here is done get over it.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Tell me you never played without telling me you never played. You dont understand a dressing room. Your infatuation with Karlsson makes it impossible to look at it objectively. Brady is a way more dedicated player off the ice.

lol so please tell me how would Karlsson break the lockeroom? the player guys like Alfredsson, Stone, Turris, etc all vouch for.

crazy how well melnyk and dorion propaganda works on people.

 

[bert]

lol so please tell me you how would Karlsson break the lockeroom? the player guys like Alfredsson, Stone, Turris, etc all vouch for.

crazy how well melnyk and dorion propaganda works on people.

This has nothing to do with propaganda. I dont respect either Dorion or Melnyks opinion 1 iota. That is a completely false narrative that has nothing to do with this discussion.

Its Brady's room if you dont like it go cheer for another team. I guarantee Stone would not want Karlsson coming back into that room.

 

[Silencio]

Pagnotta says Ottawa is in on Carter Hart (along with the Leafs and Habs)

 

[Crosside]

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[Hale The Villain]

Out come the locker room whisperers

If you want to make the argument that Karlsson is too old, too expensive (even after retention), would cost too much to acquire, etc... that's all fine, but speculation about how Karlsson would break the locker room, destroy team chemistry, create some kind of off-ice drama, is completely unfounded.

Certain posters like to pretend they know these players intimately and know how they'd feel about Karlsson coming back to Ottawa, but that's obviously not the case.

 

[bert]

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So Ottawa trades Debrincat a 1st and a 2nd for Karlsson. So essentially for a 33 year old Karlsson Ottawa trades.

7th OA, 1st rounder, two seconds and a 3rd round pick. 5 picks. Imagine how god damned stupid someone would have to be to post this.

 

[bert]

Out come the locker room whisperers

If you want to make the argument that Karlsson is too old, too expensive (even after retention), would cost too much to acquire, etc... that's all fine, but speculation about how Karlsson would break the locker room, destroy team chemistry, create some kind of off-ice drama, is completely unfounded.

Certain posters like to pretend they know these players intimately and know how they'd feel about Karlsson coming back to Ottawa, but that's obviously not the case.

I made all of the above.

But if you actually think that bringing a player back of his magnitude has 0 impact on the dressing room then you are living in a fantasy world. This team is building properly. Why on earth would you risk messing it up. Its not a video game, they are real people there are real dynamics in every room.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

This has nothing to do with propaganda. I dont respect either Dorion or Melnyks opinion 1 iota. That is a completely false narrative that has nothing to do with this discussion.

Its Brady's room if you dont like it go cheer for another team. I guarantee Stone would not want Karlsson coming back into that room.

something makes me think that if it was Karlsson out partying and getting wasted the week the team choked against the worst teams and as a result missed the playoffs, you would be a lot harder on Karlsson vs Brady. why is that?

your bias against Karlsson is clearly emotional and this obsession with Brady's Room is weird. we never had Alfie's room, we never had Karlssons room, we never had Stone's room, it was just the Sens room. so now why all of a sudden the obsession with Brady's room and maybe Brady's Room actually needs a shakeup?

Karlsson teams overperformed their talent level.

Brady's teams have only underperformed.

and can you imagine if Giroux hadn't come this season? what a trainwreck that would have been and it was still a trainwreck.

and if you're against Karlsson because you think he has an ego, yea no shit Karlsson has a huge ego, but it helps him WIN. the team could use Karlssons ego.

and just based on facts and history Karlsson dedication to winning is much greater than what Brady has shown so far. those are facts.

anyway I like Brady too, and Karlsson feeding Brady down low for tips and passes imo would be incredible, another part of a championship core.

 

[Hale The Villain]

I made all of the above.

But if you actually think that bringing a player back of his magnitude has 0 impact on the dressing room then you are living in a fantasy world. This team is building properly. Why on earth would you risk messing it up. Its not a video game, they are real people there are real dynamics in every room.

You're acting like the first thing Karlsson is going to do is walk into the dressing room and challenge Brady to a Black Panther-esque fight for the mantle of leadership.

I seem to have a bit more faith that players would act like adults and be professionals.

 

[armani]

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Just for Agent Zub

The buzz you hear on hockeybuzz are from flies around shit. Not a good buzz, just shit.

 

[bert]

You're acting like the first thing Karlsson is going to do is walk into the dressing room and challenge Brady to a Black Panther-esque fight for the mantle of leadership.

I seem to have a bit more faith that players would act like adults and be professionals.

No I didnt. You just made that up.

 

[SquidNasty]

weak leadership if thats true.

guess its more important that the boys are having fun at the bars than winning. because Karlsson's history with the club is making it overperform and winning.

Every single NHL team is constantly at the bars whether they’re first or last in the standings. The only difference is that we’re now in the Snapchat/Instagram era and you can’t have yourself a proper night out without it being plastered everywhere.

This take is particularly crazy when you consider the reputation of those super successful Ottawa teams from the early 2000s.

 

[bert]

something makes me think that if it was Karlsson out partying and getting wasted the week the team choked against the worst teams and as a result missed the playoffs, you would be a lot harder on Karlsson vs Brady. why is that?

your bias against Karlsson is clearly emotional and this obsession with Brady's Room is weird. we never had Alfie's room, we never had Karlssons room, we never had Stone's room, it was just the Sens room. so now why all of a sudden the obsession with Brady's room and maybe Brady's Room actually needs a shakeup?

Karlsson teams overperformed their talent level.

Brady's teams have only underperformed.

and can you imagine if Giroux hadn't come this season? what a trainwreck that would have been and it was still a trainwreck.

and if you're against Karlsson because you think he has an ego, yea no shit Karlsson has a huge ego, but it helps him WIN. the team could use Karlssons ego.

and just based on facts and history Karlsson dedication to winning is much greater than what Brady has shown so far. those are facts.

anyway I like Brady too, and Karlsson feeding Brady down low for tips and passes imo would be incredible, another part of a championship core.

You are right thats what you think. Why would you ask me a question based on your own assumption that is 100 percent false.

I have no bias against Karlsson, 0 bias actually. I just know that he isnt a good fit at this point in time with this group. Mostly based on age and when this team will actually compete for a stanley cup. I also think its potentially counter productive to risk having the leadership in the room be impacted. As this team is very close and plays hard for one another.

This team didnt win anything significant with Karlsson and his leadership style. The room broke, now thats not all on him obviously it was a team that lacked character and had many large egos. One thing is for sure everyone knows it was extremely clique. Thats not the case with this current group. Just listen to Chris Neil's interview yesterday. Its common knowledge this leadership group respects the trainers. They are out in the community they care.

Karlsson is not nearly as close to as dedicated a player off the ice as Tkachuk I know this with absolute certainty. Karlsson's natural talent is almost unmatched but there was very little leadership going on in that regard. Brady works extremely hard in the offseason.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Every single NHL team is constantly at the bars whether they’re first or last in the standings. The only difference is that we’re now in the Snapchat/Instagram era and you can’t have yourself a proper night out without it being plastered everywhere.

This take is particularly crazy when you consider the reputation of those super successful Ottawa teams from the early 2000s.

Yes it matters if you win or not. If you're winning its all good.

When instead you look like you're partying harder than you're playing, in a week that basically determines the season? yikes.

but yea excuse it.

the standards for this team have fallen so low.

 

[Daffy]

Can we stop posting Eklund?

 

[bicboi64]

ESPN proposed Chytil and Kakko for an extended DBC. Thoughts?

If Dorion pulls off a trade where we get Chytil and Kakko for an extended Cat, and nothing else, I will get Dorion's name tattooed

 

[Bileur]

Ya the EK65 train has sailed. Yep, those dollars should and need to go to Sandy and Chychurn

I actually lol’ed at this.

The buzz you hear on hockeybuzz are from flies around shit. Not a good buzz, just shit.

If he really had sources good enough to know what picks are going where in a three way you’d think he’d occasionally break a trade…

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Remember when we had both Daccord and Gustavsson

'Mayor' Joey | Seattle Kraken

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I wonder if we could move DeBrincat to Seattle for package including a winger and Daccord. ..Daccord should be NHL ready .
They have some interesting options but lots with M-NTCs on the proven guys and they were a playoff team so its not like they'd favor Ottawa.

 

[NyQuil]

Remember when we had both Daccord and Gustavsson

'Mayor' Joey | Seattle Kraken

Firebirds goaltender Daccord provides swagger and shutouts for his teammates and Coachella Valley fans, leading to intense and vocal fan-favorite status. CVF up 2-0 in final

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I wonder if we could move DeBrincat to Seattle for package including a winger and Daccord. ..Daccord should be NHL ready .
They have some interesting options but lots with M-NTCs on the proven guys and they were a playoff team so its not like they'd favor Ottawa.

To be fair, I didn't get trading Gus either at the time.

No clue about Daccord being an NHL regular.

 

[bicboi64]

Remember when we had both Daccord and Gustavsson

'Mayor' Joey | Seattle Kraken

Firebirds goaltender Daccord provides swagger and shutouts for his teammates and Coachella Valley fans, leading to intense and vocal fan-favorite status. CVF up 2-0 in final

www.nhl.com

I wonder if we could move DeBrincat to Seattle for package including a winger and Daccord. ..Daccord should be NHL ready .
They have some interesting options but lots with M-NTCs on the proven guys and they were a playoff team so its not like they'd favor Ottawa.

If we can get Schwartz and a 1st (this years or next), that'd be a solid trade. I think Daccord is ufa so we might be able to get him to sign here on a prove it type deal

 

[L'Aveuglette]

If we can get Carter Hart in net and Chytil and Kakko for our third line, I'd be more than ok with losing DBC.

 

[Senator Stanley]

Remember when we had both Daccord and Gustavsson

'Mayor' Joey | Seattle Kraken

Firebirds goaltender Daccord provides swagger and shutouts for his teammates and Coachella Valley fans, leading to intense and vocal fan-favorite status. CVF up 2-0 in final

www.nhl.com

I wonder if we could move DeBrincat to Seattle for package including a winger and Daccord. ..Daccord should be NHL ready .
They have some interesting options but lots with M-NTCs on the proven guys and they were a playoff team so its not like they'd favor Ottawa.

Jeff Marek said on 31 Thoughts recently that Daccord is set to be a UFA. One of those special classes of UFAs that's based on age and games played.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Jeff Marek said on 31 Thoughts recently that Daccord is set to be a UFA. One of those special classes of UFAs that's based on age and games played.

Ok thanks
I would not mind taking a run at him. Always liked him when he was here.