Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

This is from the ESPN write up by Greg Wyshynski:



All these national writers keep saying that the Sens need centers. It's like they've forgotten about Norris and haven't clued in on Stutzle.

NHL offseason dominoes: How trades for Karlsson, Saros, Dubois could alter the landscape

What happens if the Ducks don't take Adam Fantilli at No. 2 overall? We examine the downstream impacts of potential summer blockbusters.

www.espn.com

With Norris coming off major surgery, it's not a terrible idea to at least have some more security there. A winger that can also play center in a pinch would be ideal.

 

[Hale The Villain]

This is from the ESPN write up by Greg Wyshynski:



All these national writers keep saying that the Sens need centers. It's like they've forgotten about Norris and haven't clued in on Stutzle.

NHL offseason dominoes: How trades for Karlsson, Saros, Dubois could alter the landscape

What happens if the Ducks don't take Adam Fantilli at No. 2 overall? We examine the downstream impacts of potential summer blockbusters.

www.espn.com

Stutzle is still listed as a LW on NHL.com and a lot of other prominent sites.

You'd think a professional hockey writer would do more research than a simple google search to confirm a player's position, but you'd be giving the profession far too much credit.

 

[BondraTime]

The buzz you hear on hockeybuzz are from flies around shit. Not a good buzz, just shit.

The site has taken a massive hit since Kevin Francis’ unfortunate departure.

 

[Sensators]

If we can't pull off a sign and trade w/ debrincat I don't really care if we trade him during the summer or at the TDL. I don't think there will be a big difference in the returns, last year was a down year for him - if they give him the same pp opportunity I think he will do much better numberwise.. he missed so many great chances.

 

[NyQuil]

With Norris coming off major surgery, it's not a terrible idea to at least have some more security there. A winger that can also play center in a pinch would be ideal.

I don't mind the concept of redundancy but at what cost?

In Wysh's example, Chytil is still being paid $4.5M which means we're investing over $20M for 3 centres with Pinto due a new contract.

If he can play the wing (or maybe Pinto can), perhaps it could work, although I see Pinto's strengths being more up the middle personally.

Perhaps most obviously, the biggest hole on the team with ADB leaving is a top six winger.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I don't mind the concept of redundancy but at what cost?

In Wysh's example, Chytil is still being paid $4.5M which means we're investing over $20M for 3 centres with Pinto due a new contract.

If he can play the wing (or maybe Pinto can), perhaps it could work, although I see Pinto's strengths being more up the middle personally.

Minimal. I like the idea of insulating the position, but we have to somewhat take our chances. I'm just saying it shouldn't be considered crazy to prioritize it a bit if the right opportunity presents itself cuz I'm sure we're all nervous about that shoulder. I know I am, probably more than anything else other than maybe Chychrun staying healthy too.

 

[bert]

I don't mind the concept of redundancy but at what cost?

In Wysh's example, Chytil is still being paid $4.5M which means we're investing over $20M for 3 centres with Pinto due a new contract.

If he can play the wing (or maybe Pinto can), perhaps it could work, although I see Pinto's strengths being more up the middle personally.

Perhaps most obviously, the biggest hole on the team with ADB leaving is a top six winger.

Can never have too many centers. Chytil can play both he is a very versatile player. I dont see any scenario where NY trades both Chytil and Kakko for Debrincat though.

 

[NyQuil]

Can never have too many centers. Chytil can play both he is a very versatile player. I dont see any scenario where NY trades both Chytil and Kakko for Debrincat though.

No, they'll keep Kakko.

 

[bert]

No, they'll keep Kakko.

Extended Debrincat for NYR 1st and Chytil... Sign me up. Dont see that happening either but id love that deal. They have to extend Miller, Lafreniere and fill up back up goalie, two forward spots and another D man. So no thats not happening. I mean maybe they could squeeze it but I doubt it.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

You are right thats what you think. Why would you ask me a question based on your own assumption that is 100 percent false.

I have no bias against Karlsson, 0 bias actually. I just know that he isnt a good fit at this point in time with this group. Mostly based on age and when this team will actually compete for a stanley cup. I also think its potentially counter productive to risk having the leadership in the room be impacted. As this team is very close and plays hard for one another.

This team didnt win anything significant with Karlsson and his leadership style. The room broke, now thats not all on him obviously it was a team that lacked character and had many large egos. One thing is for sure everyone knows it was extremely clique. Thats not the case with this current group. Just listen to Chris Neil's interview yesterday. Its common knowledge this leadership group respects the trainers. They are out in the community they care.

Karlsson is not nearly as close to as dedicated a player off the ice as Tkachuk I know this with absolute certainty. Karlsson's natural talent is almost unmatched but there was very little leadership going on in that regard. Brady works extremely hard in the offseason.

you wanna see leadership and dedication to winning?

this is leadership and dedication.





Karlsson, Turris, Stone led on the ice. played hard at both ends and rose to the pressure situations. their teams overperformed their talent level.

Brady plays hard one way only to be lazy and loose going the other way. The whole team follows suit and underperforms their talent level. That is not good leadership and dedication to winning.

 

[Golden_Jet]

you wanna see leadership and dedication to winning?

this is leadership and dedication.





Karlsson, Turris, Stone led on the ice. played hard at both ends and rose to the pressure situations. their teams overperformed their talent level.

Brady plays hard one way only to be lazy and loose going the other way. The whole team follows suit and underperforms their talent level. That is not good leadership and dedication to winning.

Karlsson didn’t even want to practice, he’d go to coach and ask for the team not to practice. Other guys couldn’t say much as he was the captain.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

you wanna see leadership and dedication to winning?

this is leadership and dedication.





Karlsson, Turris, Stone led on the ice. played hard at both ends and rose to the pressure situations. their teams overperformed their talent level.

Brady plays hard one way only to be lazy and loose going the other way. The whole team follows suit and underperforms their talent level. That is not good leadership and dedication to winning.

Karlsson being a great leader doesn't mean others can't be.

It's been a team playing for nothing in Ottawa for Brady's entire tenure. Lets see how he does when the games start to matter.

That said, Brady will get the support of a proper owner and be on a cap team, so they're not a fair comparable either way.

 

[bert]

you wanna see leadership and dedication to winning?

this is leadership and dedication.





Karlsson, Turris, Stone led on the ice. played hard at both ends and rose to the pressure situations. their teams overperformed their talent level.

Brady plays hard one way only to be lazy and loose going the other way. The whole team follows suit and underperforms their talent level. That is not good leadership and dedication to winning.

You dont really understand leadership extends further than on ice play there is way more too it. Karlsson also has a history of selfish play on the ice too. But I mean you dont seem to be able to identify with that as it doesnt fit this false narrative you push constantly. Blaming the entire sens team on their defensive play and work ethic on one player is absolutely absurd. Leadership is about being active in the community, inclusive of your teammates, supporting your teammates. Good off ice habits in terms of hard work and nutrition. There is simply far more to it. I get thats when you started following hockey and you enjoyed the run so did I but thats what it was a run. A team got hot at the right time.

 

[bicboi64]

if the rags want to move Chytil for Cat, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot. They are so strapped for cash, they have to rely on Laf, Chytil, Kakko, Schneider, and Miller being good value contracts. They won't move Trouba, Kreider, Trochek and will have a bit of trouble moving Goodrow. No way they get to keep both Kane and Tarasenko, so if they have a crackhead moment and want to have Cat for whatever he'll cost, I'd hope we can fleece Drury.

Chytil can play wing as well and can fill in on the second line. Even if it's just Chytil and the 23rd overall, I think it'd be a decent move for us.

 

[bicboi64]

Also, everyone arguing about EK or Brady being a good leader.

They both suck. One likes country music, the other wears crocs.

The best captain would've been potential sens legend Balcers.

 

[GCK]

Keller isn't being traded, but I do find it amusing how quickly HF opinion shifts on players.

A year ago DeBrincat was viewed around here as a superstar 40-50G threat and Keller was only one season removed from being considered a bad contract.

One season later and no one wants DeBrincat and everyone is thirsting over Keller

Keller was never a bad contract.

 

[Senator Stanley]

if the rags want to move Chytil for Cat, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot. They are so strapped for cash, they have to rely on Laf, Chytil, Kakko, Schneider, and Miller being good value contracts. They won't move Trouba, Kreider, Trochek and will have a bit of trouble moving Goodrow. No way they get to keep both Kane and Tarasenko, so if they have a crackhead moment and want to have Cat for whatever he'll cost, I'd hope we can fleece Drury.

Chytil can play wing as well and can fill in on the second line. Even if it's just Chytil and the 23rd overall, I think it'd be a decent move for us.

Maybe there's a deal to be made around a signed DeBrincat for Lafreniere (an RFA), Goodrow ($3.6M x 4, 15 team NTC), and a pick. The Rangers get the best player and get off a contract, and Sens get a replacement top 6 winger with upside and some veteran depth.

Lafreniere is a tricky evaluation. In a year, this could look like New York selling low or it could look like they sold just in time.

 

[Micklebot]

They both suck. One likes country music, the other wears crocs.

Crocs eh, well, at least it's not sandals with socks, that's the true mark of poor leadership...

 

[bicboi64]

Maybe there's a deal to be made around a signed DeBrincat for Lafreniere (an RFA), Goodrow ($3.6M x 4, 15 team NTC), and a pick. The Rangers get the best player and get off a contract, and Sens get a replacement top 6 winger with upside and some veteran depth.

Lafreniere is a tricky evaluation. In a year, this could look like New York selling low or it could look like they sold just in time.

I'd do that deal but only if its the Rags 1st rounder included. They gotta pay us to take Goodrow.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Keller was never a bad contract.

He signed an 8 year extension worth 7.15M a year after his sophomore season and then followed it up with a 44P/70GP season in 19/20 and a 35P/56GP season in 20/21.

For awhile there it was looking like he may not live up to the big extension he was given, but he's turned it around.

 

[bert]

He signed an 8 year extension worth 7.15M a year after his sophomore season and then followed it up with a 44P/70GP season in 19/20 and a 35P/56GP season in 20/21.

For awhile there it was looking like he may not live up to the big extension he was given, but he's turned it around.

They werent paying him that deal for his sophmore season. Its going the way it should have and he is improving with it to the point where it looks like a steal in the later years. I think we hoped that would happen with Chabot as well.

 

[Hale The Villain]

They werent paying him that deal for his sophmore season. Its going the way it should have and he is improving with it to the point where it looks like a steal in the later years. I think we hoped that would happen with Chabot as well.

Oh there's no question they are happy with it now, but there was significant doubt brewing after Keller's very underwhelming 20/21 campaign that he'd live up to the contract, especially considering it made it 3 straight seasons of stagnating production of about 50P/82GP.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Crocs eh, well, at least it's not sandals with socks, that's the true mark of poor leadership...

Is this a buried Mark Stone joke?

You know what's worse though?

Bare feet!!! Put those damn things away people.

 

[bicboi64]

Is this a buried Mark Stone joke?

You know what's worse though?

Bare feet!!! Put those damn things away people.

Return Of The Crocs // Brady Tkachuk - DOODLING DARRYL

Brady Tkachuk of the Ottawa Senators (and his crocs) return!

doodlingdarryl.com

Brady loves Crocs. Even had a clip on nhl.com (can't find it) of him visiting a crocs store and describing what type of crocs each player on the team would wear. Certified dweeb.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Return Of The Crocs // Brady Tkachuk - DOODLING DARRYL

Brady Tkachuk of the Ottawa Senators (and his crocs) return!

doodlingdarryl.com

Brady loves Crocs. Even had a clip on nhl.com (can't find it) of him visiting a crocs store and describing what type of crocs each player on the team would wear. Certified dweeb.

Shit man, I rock the croc(s) too lol

But I'm old on the doorstep of 40 and dgaf.