Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

[SpezDispenser]

Debrincat for Duchene?

1M in cap savings, Duchene scored 40+ the same time Debrincat last did it. Bigger and faster player too.

I know I am going to hear that Duchene is a small one dimensional forward and we don't need that etc. Still think he would slot in nicely as #2LW. He has a 7 team NTC tho but I think Ottawa without Melnyk left a good impression.

Wrong age to acquire a huge ticket player. His best days are behind him likely. Don't do it

 

[bicboi64]

Don't want Perry here at all. Can't stand the idea of having that ray on our team, especially since he was on the Quacks roster that beat us in the finals

 

[Daffy]

Perry would be a fantastic addition. Doubt he comes here but would love it.

 

[KnuckChuckinTkachuk]

Ottawa
gets: Konecny
sends: rights to DeBrincat, Boucher, Brannstrom

St Louis
gets: DeBrincat (signs 8yr x 7.85mil per)
sends: 1st (TOR - 25TH overall) 2023, 1st (DAL - 29TH overall) 2023

Philly
gets: 1st, 1st, Boucher, Brannstrom
sends: Konecny

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

He went to Montreal so...

Perry would be a fantastic addition. Doubt he comes here but would love it.

Ottawa
gets: Konecny
sends: rights to DeBrincat, Boucher, Brannstrom

St Louis
gets: DeBrincat (signs 8yr x 7.85mil per)
sends: 1st (TOR - 25TH overall) 2023, 1st (DAL - 29TH overall) 2023

Philly
gets: 1st, 1st, Boucher, Brannstrom
sends: Konecny

I would assume Philly wants one better piece than Brannstrom but doesn't look entirely unrealistic.

 

[Very Stable Genius]

ESPN proposed Chytil and Kakko for an extended DBC. Thoughts?

 

[UglyPuckling]

Ottawa
gets: Konecny
sends: rights to DeBrincat, Boucher, Brannstrom

St Louis
gets: DeBrincat (signs 8yr x 7.85mil per)
sends: 1st (TOR - 25TH overall) 2023, 1st (DAL - 29TH overall) 2023

Philly
gets: 1st, 1st, Boucher, Brannstrom
sends: Konecny

I noticed this on the main Trade Forum. Blues fans seem to think that defenders are their biggest need.

 

[Boud]

ESPN proposed Chytil and Kakko for an extended DBC. Thoughts?

Done easily.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Ottawa
gets: Konecny
sends: rights to DeBrincat, Boucher, Brannstrom

St Louis
gets: DeBrincat (signs 8yr x 7.85mil per)
sends: 1st (TOR - 25TH overall) 2023, 1st (DAL - 29TH overall) 2023

Philly
gets: 1st, 1st, Boucher, Brannstrom
sends: Konecny

I read this as a three way trade and legit got dizzy and threw up.

So I am already penciling Perry on the 4RW spot based on Bruce’s article.

Tkachuk-Stutzle-Giroux
xxxx-Norris-Batherson
xxxx-Pinto-Joseph
Greig-Kastelic-Perry

Chabot-Chychrun
Sanderson-Zub
Branny-JBD

Forsberg
xxxx

With giroux retiring, batherson possibly suspended (spec) and Norris shoulder injuries. We are dangerously close to only having 2 top 6 forwards.

 

[BondraTime]

ESPN proposed Chytil and Kakko for an extended DBC. Thoughts?

Sens would run to the airport and cut the phone lines after hanging up.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Ottawa
gets: Konecny
sends: rights to DeBrincat, Boucher, Brannstrom

St Louis
gets: DeBrincat (signs 8yr x 7.85mil per)
sends: 1st (TOR - 25TH overall) 2023, 1st (DAL - 29TH overall) 2023

Philly
gets: 1st, 1st, Boucher, Brannstrom
sends: Konecny

Ottawa gets bent over here.

 

[bert]

ESPN proposed Chytil and Kakko for an extended DBC. Thoughts?

Id do that one for sure.

I read this as a three way trade and legit got dizzy and threw up.


With giroux retiring, batherson possibly suspended (spec) and Norris shoulder injuries. We are dangerously close to only having 2 top 6 forwards.

Giroux has two more seasons..... Pinto is trending to be a top 6 forward as well. Batherson isnt getting suspended. Alot of hyperbole here.

Norris shoulder is concerning.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

My understanding is Malhotra's will be funding/interested in the roster, Alfie close to the Malhotra's, Alfie likely to be high ranking in new Org, Alfie and Karlsson close,

= Karlsson coming home

sometimes nepotism is nice.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Ottawa
gets: Konecny
sends: rights to DeBrincat, Boucher, Brannstrom

St Louis
gets: DeBrincat (signs 8yr x 7.85mil per)
sends: 1st (TOR - 25TH overall) 2023, 1st (DAL - 29TH overall) 2023

Philly
gets: 1st, 1st, Boucher, Brannstrom
sends: Konecny

No. In a year you're back to having to deal with contracts with Konecny. And then, even if he wants to sign with Ottawa, you're nearing that deadly age where he'd want an 8 year deal that wouldn't end until he's 36.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Why is Batherson all of a sudden getting suspended?

 

[bert]

Why is Batherson all of a sudden getting suspended?

He isnt. It was a gas lighting post.

My understanding is Malhotra's will be funding/interested in the roster, Alfie close to the Malhotra's, Alfie likely to be high ranking in new Org, Alfie and Karlsson close,

= Karlsson coming home

sometimes nepotism is nice.

Karlsson isnt coming back to Ottawa any time soon. Malhotras arent going to be making any roster decisions either. They are here for the real estate. Yes they do have a relationship with Alfie but if you think for a second they are going to manipulate his decisions then you are really grasping. Unless you have 51 % you arent making those decisions.

I truly hope that the owner has nothing to do with any of the on ice product decision making. Let the real professionals do their job.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

He isnt. It was a gas lighting post.


Karlsson isnt coming back to Ottawa any time soon. Malhotras arent going to be making any roster decisions either. They are here for the real estate. Yes they do have a relationship with Alfie but if you think for a second they are going to manipulate his decisions then you are really grasping. Unless you have 51 % you arent making those decisions.

I truly hope that the owner has nothing to do with any of the on ice product decision making. Let the real professionals do their job.

I'm just saying there is going to be a lot of bias for wanting to bring Karlsson back. I don't know how there won't at least be tire kicking (which apparently has even happened last year)

Alfie, probably Malhotras, and probably Andlauer as well who saw Karlsson burn his habs so much. They all know very intimately how good Karlsson is and they are the decision makers.

We also have a need for an RD and a player who is good at 5 on 5 (Karlsson is top at both), not to mention we are losing DBC and thus bringing an even better player is a good way to make a splash, sell tickets, and ultimately make the team much better.

 

[armani]

Love EK65, one of the best players in the league yet again, it's just that we already have Chabot, Sanderson, and Chychrun as puck movers, without including RFA Brannstrom. Even though all of them are LD (with Chychyrun and Brann having played RD in minors/juniors but rarely in the NHL).

Unless someone like Chabot is moved, I don't see EK65 even on heavy retention coming back to Ottawa. Maybe in a couple of years he returns as a legacy player/veteran if he's still got the legs, would love to see him in Sens jersey, but it doesn't appear realistic in the immediate term after Sanderson's emergence and Chychrun's acquisition.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Love EK65, one of the best players in the league yet again, it's just that we already have Chabot, Sanderson, and Chychrun as puck movers, without including RFA Brannstrom. Even though all of them are LD (with Chychyrun and Brann having played RD in minors/juniors but rarely in the NHL).

Unless someone like Chabot is moved, I don't see EK65 even on heavy retention coming back to Ottawa. Maybe in a couple of years he returns as a legacy player/veteran if he's still got the legs, would love to see him in Sens jersey, but it doesn't appear realistic in the immediate term after Sanderson's emergence and Chychrun's acquisition.

yea ideally we trade Chabot if we get Karlsson. Chabot makes too much for what he has been bringing, while Karlsson could put up a better season on one foot. The talent gap is just so big, like comparing DBC or Batherson to Stutzle maybe even bigger gap. It's a no brainer.

Chychrun-Karlsson
Sanderson-Zub

is much better, more flexible, and cheaper than

Chabot-Chychrun
Zub-Sanderson

 

[bert]

I'm just saying there is going to be a lot of bias for wanting to bring Karlsson back. I don't know how there won't at least be tire kicking (which apparently has even happened last year)

Alfie, probably Malhotras, and probably Andlauer as well who saw Karlsson burn his habs so much. They all know very intimately how good Karlsson is and they are the decision makers.

We also have a need for an RD and a player who is good at 5 on 5 (Karlsson is top at both), not to mention we are losing DBC and thus bringing an even better player is a good way to make a splash, sell tickets, and ultimately make the team much better.

Stutzle and Sanderson are 21 years old. Brady is the captain he is 24. Trading for a 33 year old Karlsson at his most inflated value doesn't make any sense for this franchise no matter how much people want to romanticize about it.

They have to commit the dollars to Sanderson and Chychrun who actually fit into the core age group of this team.

You hear it over and over again, how this team is out in the community volunteering their time committed to the city and the organization. It feels like the way the team in the late 90's was built and the type of character people they have in the core in the room. I dont think they are going to mess with that. Its time to let go and embrace what is here and whats commited to this team and city.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Stutzle and Sanderson are 21 years old. Brady is the captain he is 24. Trading for a 33 year old Karlsson at his most inflated value doesn't make any sense for this franchise no matter how much people want to romanticize about it.

They have to commit the dollars to Sanderson and Chychrun who actually fit into the core age group of this team.

You hear it over and over again, how this team is out in the community volunteering their time committed to the city and the organization. It feels like the way the team in the late 90's was built and the type of character people they have in the core in the room. I dont think they are going to mess with that. Its time to let go and embrace what is here and whats commited to this team and city.

Ya the EK65 train has sailed. Yep, those dollars should and need to go to Sandy and Chychurn

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Stutzle and Sanderson are 21 years old. Brady is the captain he is 24. Trading for a 33 year old Karlsson at his most inflated value doesn't make any sense for this franchise no matter how much people want to romanticize about it.

They have to commit the dollars to Sanderson and Chychrun who actually fit into the core age group of this team.

You hear it over and over again, how this team is out in the community volunteering their time committed to the city and the organization. It feels like the way the team in the late 90's was built and the type of character people they have in the core in the room. I dont think they are going to mess with that. Its time to let go and embrace what is here and whats commited to this team and city.

Do you think Giroux was a bad move? Karlsson is younger, better, and was even more clutch in the playoffs. To like Giroux for this roster but not like Karlsson makes no sense.

The salary aspect is another reason why swapping Chabot for Karlsson makes so much sense. Karlssons contract will be same as Chabot but shorter. That flexibility could be invaluable.

Yes, Stutzle, Sanderson, Brady are all in their primes now and the ages Crosby, Malkin, Kopitar, Doughty, Kane, Toews all won their cups.

And you're happy just kicking rocks on the perimeter instead of going for the jugular? maybe in 3 or 5 years we can make a run?

I'd rather make a run every year for the next 10 years.

 

[Senator Stanley]

ESPN proposed Chytil and Kakko for an extended DBC. Thoughts?

This is from the ESPN write up by Greg Wyshynski:

So how do they get a DeBrincat trade done? It starts with including Filip Chytil in the deal. The Senators need centers. They also need players who are locked into playing in Ottawa for some time. Chytil makes $4,437,500 against the cap through 2026-27. He's ideal.

Could the trade involve two Kid Line members? I don't think the Rangers are going to give up on Lafreniere. I'm less convinced they feel the same way about Kaapo Kakko. He's coming off a promising 18-goal season. I think they can unload here to clear even more space.

All these national writers keep saying that the Sens need centers. It's like they've forgotten about Norris and haven't clued in on Stutzle.

NHL offseason dominoes: How trades for Karlsson, Saros, Dubois could alter the landscape

What happens if the Ducks don't take Adam Fantilli at No. 2 overall? We examine the downstream impacts of potential summer blockbusters.

www.espn.com

 

[stempniaksen]

ESPN proposed Chytil and Kakko for an extended DBC. Thoughts?

Being able to run our very own "kid line" with Chytil/Kakko/Pinto would certainly ease the sting of losing DeBrincat, moreso than any of the futures packages tossed around. Sign me up.

 

[bert]

Do you think Giroux was a bad move? Karlsson is younger, better, and was even more clutch in the playoffs. To like Giroux for this roster but not like Karlsson makes no sense.

The salary aspect is another reason why swapping Chabot for Karlsson makes so much sense. Karlssons contract will be same as Chabot but shorter. That flexibility could be invaluable.

Yes, Stutzle, Sanderson, Brady are all in their primes now and the ages Crosby, Malkin, Kopitar, Doughty, Kane, Toews all won their cups.

And you're happy just kicking rocks on the perimeter instead of going for the jugular? maybe in 3 or 5 years we can make a run?

I'd rather make a run every year for the next 10 years.

They arent the same thing at all. Giroux was a UFA, the team lacks depth up front and he doesnt have a history with the organization.

They would have to trade for Karlsson and they have their top 4 d men. This is Brady's team, Karlssons history certainly could impact the leadership group whether you want to acknowledge this or not.

I am interested in building a perennial contender. This teams best players arent even in their prime yet. Burning assets on Karlsson is extremely risky and counter productive to them actually winning a cup in 3 to 4 years when the core of this team is ready.

There is no Sidney Crosby, Malkin or Kane in this group. Why dont you look at the teams that have won recently. Colorado, Tampa, Washington, Vegas all these teams had to fail several times and all their best players are in their late 20's. You arent even looking at relevant comparables.