Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

[Senovision]

It would be nice to acquire a veteran player or two that have had playoff success and experience as depth pieces. Players that have been there before.

 

[Micklebot]

It would be nice to acquire a veteran player or two that have had playoff success and experience as depth pieces. Players that have been there before.

Watson has a trip to the SCF under his belt, Brassard went to the ECF with us, NYR, and the NYI and the SCF with NYR, Motte went to the WCF with Van, Holden went to the WCF with VGK as did Brown, Joseph was with TBay in a depth role for a SC

 

[Senovision]

Watson has a trip to the SCF under his belt, Brassard went to the ECF with us, NYR, and the NYI and the SCF with NYR, Motte went to the WCF with Van, Holden went to the WCF with VGK as did Brown, Joseph was with TBay in a depth role for a SC

I know but not a lot of experience in my opinion.

I know but not a lot of experience in my opinion.

And Giroux too.

 

[Senovision]

Watson and Joseph had minor roles in the playoffs. Only Giroux has had a lot of playoff experiences.

 

[Ice-Tray]

That's very much in question. If it wasn't, charges would have been laid a long time ago.

Assen na yo!

That’s not really how it works with these types of cases though. Legally it is accepted that she was assaulted, because she feels she never consented, full stop.

The question that remains is whether the accused knew that they were acting without consent or not. This is what police and the prosecution need to be able to prove, that the accused reasonably understood that she had not given consent. It’s why they made her do those videos…. After.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Lawyers, and Police, HC, and players in the room, is not teams. If teams knew there would have been a leak by now, no matter how much you’re convinced.

So you agree that lots of people know, add in the victims side that also knows, and yet there hasn’t been a leak yet.

But a team‘s management that is in a unique position to be really dialled into this situation would definitely leak it? Maybe they know, maybe they don’t, but if they did, they wouldn’t be leaking it any more than any of the other dozens of people who know. That’s grade A harmful information against the team.

Regardless, we have two players on our team that were allegedly in the room that night, maybe one would do us a solid and prevent us from trading for a third… lol

 

[Samsquanch]

I know but not a lot of experience in my opinion.


And Giroux too.

Am I tripping out, or did you just quote yourself AND contradict your own point????

Time for bed for me I think.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

It kind of depends on what the Blues organizational plan is. They traded away O'Reilly, Tarasenko and Barbashev at the trade deadline. It kind of seems like they are trying to do a rebuild/re-tool by getting younger. DeBrincat is fairly young so acquiring him would be in line with that. Schenn will be turning 32 this summer and is the oldest forward they have under contract.

I could certainly see the Blues parting with Schenn if they get DeBrincat in return. You bring up a valid point about the positional issue, but a big factor is likely trying to determine the best competitive window and optimizing assets. It also helps them manage their cap by reallocating the $6.5m cap hit from Schenn's contract to that of DeBrincat's future contract.

Blues fan coming in peace. Our team's stated goal is to retool without hitting rock bottom. Think they would like to hang around chase for playoffs this year, hopefully be contender again by 25-26 season. In order to achieve that, club would move either or both of our late 1sts for right deal. We are looking to add guys under about 27 with 3+ years of control. Organizationally we need centers and RD, but a top pair LD would be even better. Our GM is proactive and I would be surprised if we don't make a couple moves to reshape roster.

In terms of Schenn, he is key part of our leadership core and considered most likely to be next captain (we didn't replace ROR after he was dealt, just going with group of As). So while he likely isn't untouchable (like Thomas presumably is), Without ROR, we are thin down the middle and Schenn is counted on as 2C. I don't see him as someone club is looking to move. I especially don't see us looking to move him for small winger, even one as good as Debrincat. Note that I'm not weighing in on the value proposition, just that I don't see this as a fit for Blues.

 

[RAFI BOMB]

Blues fan coming in peace. Our team's stated goal is to retool without hitting rock bottom. Think they would like to hang around chase for playoffs this year, hopefully be contender again by 25-26 season. In order to achieve that, club would move either or both of our late 1sts for right deal. We are looking to add guys under about 27 with 3+ years of control. Organizationally we need centers and RD, but a top pair LD would be even better. Our GM is proactive and I would be surprised if we don't make a couple moves to reshape roster.

In terms of Schenn, he is key part of our leadership core and considered most likely to be next captain (we didn't replace ROR after he was dealt, just going with group of As). So while he likely isn't untouchable (like Thomas presumably is), Without ROR, we are thin down the middle and Schenn is counted on as 2C. I don't see him as someone club is looking to move. I especially don't see us looking to move him for small winger, even one as good as Debrincat. Note that I'm not weighing in on the value proposition, just that I don't see this as a fit for Blues.

Fair enough. We are speculating on here because it was reported that the Blues were one of the teams who apparently have an interest in DeBrincat.

I don't know enough about the Blues organization and management, and what their management has recently stated or implied as the current plan to know whether, or how good of a fit DeBrincat actually is. From what you are stating, it seems like the interest might not be that strong. Or, maybe better stated, while there might be interest in a player like DeBrincat, the Blues roster priorities lie elsewhere.

The Sens would likely have an interest in Schenn if a Sens-Blues deal were to be had. The Sens want to start making the playoffs and contending so with moving DeBrincat they will prioritize assets that can help them win now. They might be willing to accept picks/prospects and then flip them for help now, they might try to involve a third team, or they might take on picks/prospects and try to be very aggressive in free agency.

What assets do you think the Blues would realistically be willing to part with for DeBrincat? Is there any chance that ROR will resign with the Blues this offseason? If that happened, then maybe there is a higher possibility of Schenn getting traded.

 

[JungleBeat]

Sounds like Debrincat will go to the Avs.

 

[Daffy]

Sounds like Debrincat will go to the Avs.

Source?

 

[Qward]

Sounds like Debrincat will go to the Avs.

Avs dont have anything that I would want (besides the players that are untouchable)

 

[BondraTime]

If Detroit offered Kasper straight up, is there any who think the Sens would turn that down?

17th + piece seems like a likely scenario

At least has made the draft interesting for the Sens again

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

NYI: ADC, JBD

Philly: Bolduc, NYI 1st in 2024 conditional top 10, rights to Formenton, Wahlstrom

Ott: Konecny + Hart

 

[bert]

Avs dont have anything that I would want (besides the players that are untouchable)

Who's untouchable? A deal around Newhook and futures would be fine by me.

If Detroit offered Kasper straight up, is there any who think the Sens would turn that down?

17th + piece seems like a likely scenario

At least has made the draft interesting for the Sens again

I cant imagine.... I also dont see them doing that unfortunately.

What about Rasmussen and the Detroit First rounder for Debrincat. Id do that.

 

[Daffy]

NYI: ADC, JBD

Philly: Bolduc, NYI 1st in 2024 conditional top 10, rights to Formenton, Wahlstrom

Ott: Konecny + Hart

Ottawa would have to give up a lot more than that.

If Detroit offered Kasper straight up, is there any who think the Sens would turn that down?

17th + piece seems like a likely scenario

At least has made the draft interesting for the Sens again

Agreed. Thinking 17 and Zadina

 

[Micklebot]

Who's untouchable? A deal around Newhook and futures would be fine by me.

Depends on the futures Newhook would be an alright piece, but i don't think it's at all ideal

What about Rasmussen and the Detroit First rounder for Debrincat. Id do that.

Uh, yeah I'm sure you would, don't see that happening though, did you maybe mean the NYI. first that Det owns, because there's no way they give us their first plus

 

[bert]

Depends on the futures Newhook would be an alright piece, but i don't think it's at all ideal

Uh, yeah I'm sure you would, don't see that happening though, did you maybe mean the NYI. first that Det owns, because there's no way they give us their first plus

The real asset this team gets is cap space. So if they can get a young player that plays now maybe a 1st rounder or an equivlant prospect then use the money to sign a FA forward and a goalie thats big for this organization as they have very little depth up front.

Id do it for either. I guess thought it was out of the top 10 saw that its 9th. So yeah the 17th and Rasmussen seems like a decent deal as well.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Avs dont have anything that I would want (besides the players that are untouchable)

With what CBJ gave up to get a top 4d via sign-n-trade with Jersey, I wouldn't expect us to get much of anything in return for DBC no matter who trades for him.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Fair enough. We are speculating on here because it was reported that the Blues were one of the teams who apparently have an interest in DeBrincat.

I don't know enough about the Blues organization and management, and what their management has recently stated or implied as the current plan to know whether, or how good of a fit DeBrincat actually is. From what you are stating, it seems like the interest might not be that strong. Or, maybe better stated, while there might be interest in a player like DeBrincat, the Blues roster priorities lie elsewhere.

The Sens would likely have an interest in Schenn if a Sens-Blues deal were to be had. The Sens want to start making the playoffs and contending so with moving DeBrincat they will prioritize assets that can help them win now. They might be willing to accept picks/prospects and then flip them for help now, they might try to involve a third team, or they might take on picks/prospects and try to be very aggressive in free agency.

What assets do you think the Blues would realistically be willing to part with for DeBrincat? Is there any chance that ROR will resign with the Blues this offseason? If that happened, then maybe there is a higher possibility of Schenn getting traded.

I know Friedman speculated blues would be interested but has there been anything more tangible? Because it felt like him just throwing stuff against wall. But.. I really only see us with interest in debrincat (extended) if we were to move Kyrou. Otherwise its hard to envision tying up that much money on smaller wing. Even talented one in right age range.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we resign ROR, but would have to be at pretty significant discount to current contract. Whether he would rather take more $ elsewhere versus play in place he is comfortable, I can’t predict.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

With what CBJ gave up to get a top 4d via sign-n-trade with Jersey, I wouldn't expect us to get much of anything in return for DBC no matter who trades for him.

A little different cuz Severson was to be a UFA and could walk for nothing. If NJD wasn't going to sign him they recoup a 3rd to facilitate the trade.

 

[BondraTime]

With what CBJ gave up to get a top 4d via sign-n-trade with Jersey, I wouldn't expect us to get much of anything in return for DBC no matter who trades for him.

He was a UFA, they just paid to get 3 weeks of bargaining time on everyone else, CLB allowed them to get a contract done for a 3rd.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Oh he was UFA?

That is a relief!

 

[Que]

You’re supposed to take back bad contracts when a team is rebuilding. Not when you’re trying to contend.

Not bad contracts, but we allocated 9 million to DeBrincat and he’ll likely sign for under 8 in a preferred destination. If we take back 10-12 million it’s going to give another team flexibility, something they’d likely have to pay draft capital for.

 

[SpezDispenser]

If anyone knows dorion personally, can they tell him to please not f*** this up. Please.