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[BankStreetParade]

Interestingly, Hart's advanced stats rebounded pretty well this past season. His 15.8 Goals Saved Above Expected at 5 on 5 put him 11th last year among all goalies. If there's no realistic trade scenario for a guy like Saros (who would be my #1 choice) then I think there's certainly a pretty good fit for Hart here, depending on contract extension.

 

[Crosside]

Interestingly, Hart's advanced stats rebounded pretty well this past season. His 15.8 Goals Saved Above Expected at 5 on 5 put him 11th last year among all goalies. If there's no realistic trade scenario for a guy like Saros (who would be my #1 choice) then I think there's certainly a pretty good fit for Hart here, depending on contract extension.

I read an article yesterday , they say Kings was close to acquire Saros last year. Nashville ask multiple first plus prospect

 

[PlayersLtd]

Everyone is underestimating Carter Hart, that's the problem here.

He is an elite young workhorse goalie that has excelled at every level and has proven big game attributes. He rebounded last year and will continue to emerge as a top NHL goaltender especially on a better team.

He checks every box in what you look for in a rock solid starter, primarily pedigree. The type of development that Hart has shown over his career is exactly what you want if you're trying to cement your crease for a decade or more. Korpisalo and Vanecek are not in the same class in terms of long term reliability, not even close.

If he can be had for less than that deal it is the definition of buying low.

 

[Norris4Norris]

Dubois is in the same boat as DeBrincat. Doesnt make sense other than aragorn's boner for the bigbois

Forgive my ignorance.

Can we make a sign and trade with Debrincat? and same question for Dubois?

 

[Golden_Jet]

Everyone is underestimating Carter Hart, that's the problem here.

He is an elite young workhorse goalie that has excelled at every level and has proven big game attributes. He rebounded last year and will continue to emerge as a top NHL goaltender especially on a better team.

He checks every box in what you look for in a rock solid starter, primarily pedigree. The type of development that Hart has shown over his career is exactly what you want if you're trying to cement your crease for a decade or more. Korpisalo and Vanecek are not in the same class in terms of long term reliability, not even close.

If he can be had for less than that deal it is the definition of buying low.

I don’t see Sens going after Carter Hart, until report on WJC Team Canada 2018 is released. Sens already have 2 players that their not sure on.

 

[BondraTime]

I don’t see Sens going after Carter Hart, until report on WJC Team Canada 2018 is released. Sens already have 2 players that their not sure on.

Sens, and everyone involved, know who is involved there

 

[PlayersLtd]

I don’t see Sens going after Carter Hart, until report on WJC Team Canada 2018 is released. Sens already have 2 players that their not sure on.

And thats fair. Personally I match goalies more to the profile of serial killers and not sexual predators but your point stands...

 

[Golden_Jet]

Sens, and everyone involved, know who is involved there

Speculation since no one has released a report. If they had leaked something, it would of been leaked to the press by now.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

much rather our team be good enough to shelter a meh goalie than a meh team needing sheltering by a good goalie.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Speculation since no one has released a report. If they had leaked something, it would of been leaked to the press by now.

You can’t possibly think everyone plugged into hockey on the inside don’t know exactly who the 5 guys are who could potentially be charged would be.
Of course it’s not leaking anymore, in the event they don’t get charged lawsuits would fly.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Speculation since no one has released a report. If they had leaked something, it would of been leaked to the press by now.

Not true. The guys who were in the room know who was there, and guys who weren’t in the room know they weren’t there.

If we believe the articles earlier in the year that Batherson did a fly by in the room for Pizza and left without getting involved, he would also know who was in the room.

The names haven’t been released, and for good reason, but you can bet that the Sens in particular have a good idea of who was there.

 

[bert]

Sens, and everyone involved, know who is involved there

Which makes is surprising that Hart is even being sought after. Maybe Brier is trying to pull a fast one. In regards to a goalie, there are plenty of options in the FA market that are affordable. This team simply does not have the asset or player depth to making deals right now depleting what is already a weak group of prospects, (no picks) and organizational depth in its 2nd 3rd and 4th lines.

Hill, Varlamov, Andersen are all FA's thats who they should be going after.

 

[Golden_Jet]

You can’t possibly think everyone plugged into hockey on the inside don’t know exactly who the 5 guys are who could potentially be charged would be.
Of course it’s not leaking anymore, in the event they don’t get charged lawsuits would fly.

Ahh got it, so Briere knows something, and wants to dump player.

 

[bert]

You can’t possibly think everyone plugged into hockey on the inside don’t know exactly who the 5 guys are who could potentially be charged would be.
Of course it’s not leaking anymore, in the event they don’t get charged lawsuits would fly.

I mean everyone knows who was in the room now yes. Which makes the hart trade concept one I dont understand. Unless a team is willing to take the risk or making a longer play.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I mean everyone knows who was in the room now yes. Which makes the hart trade concept one I dont understand. Unless a team is willing to take the risk or making a longer play.

Ooooooor, Hart wasn’t in the room.

Ahh got it, so Briere knows something, and wants to dump player.

If anyone knows something NHL wise, it’s likely the Sens. We have two players on our roster who were allegedly in the room at some point.

 

[JD1]

Ooooooor, Hart wasn’t in the room.


If anyone knows something NHL wise, it’s likely the Sens. We have two players on our roster who were allegedly in the room at some point.

The league knows who is involved. They finished their investigation and provided the info to the London PD.

I'm not sure if we should be surprised that charges haven't been laid yet.

 

[Sens Vader]

Friedman linked Debrincat to St.Louis

I think that makes a lot of sense as he can play with Thomas and Kyrou

they have two late firsts and NHL-ready guys like Schenn who can come in to replace a top 9 spot

 

[Hale The Villain]

One option that could be a lot cheaper than Hart both in salary and assets is Connor Ingram.

Had some off-ice issues that he's apparently worked out after going into the player assistance program, but he's been fantastic at every level.

2015/16: .922 SV% in 61 WHL games
2016/17: .927 SV% in 45 WHL games
2017/18: .914 SV% in 35 AHL games
2018/19: .922 SV% in 22 AHL games
2019/20: .933 SV% in 33 AHL games
2020/21: (checked into PA program)
2021/22: .915 SV% in 54 AHL games

And then last season he had a respectable .907 SV% in 27 games on a terrible Yotes team.

I don't know why the Yotes would trade him, but he could be a great option to split starts with Forsberg.

Hill, Varlamov, Andersen are all FA's thats who they should be going after.

Problem is that we're not a team that can typically attract sought after UFAs.

Until this team becomes a contender it will be difficult to convince players to come here.

 

[Ice-Tray]

The league knows who is involved. They finished their investigation and provided the info to the London PD.

I'm not sure if we should be surprised that charges haven't been laid yet.

I mean it really wouldn’t be hard to find out since undoubtably the guys talked about it to other players at the time, and theses guys are all connected through agents and teammates.

The names are known, the only thing not known is whether the boys’ behaviour legally constitutes sexual assault, or more specifically if it can be reasonably proven in court.

 

[bert]

One option that could be a lot cheaper than Hart both in salary and assets is Connor Ingram.

Had some off-ice issues that he's apparently worked out after going into the player assistance program, but he's been fantastic at every level.

2015/16: .922 SV% in 61 WHL games
2016/17: .927 SV% in 45 WHL games
2017/18: .914 SV% in 35 AHL games
2018/19: .922 SV% in 22 AHL games
2019/20: .933 SV% in 33 AHL games
2020/21: (checked into PA program)
2021/22: .915 SV% in 54 AHL games

And then last season he had a respectable .907 SV% in 27 games on a terrible Yotes team.

I don't know why the Yotes would trade him, but he could be a great option to split starts with Forsberg.



Problem is that we're not a team that can typically attract sought after UFAs.

Until this team becomes a contender it will be difficult to convince players to come here.

Take a look at cap friendly and show me the teams with cap space that are more desirable than Ottawa that have a starters spot open. Carolina is about it. Boston has to dump a goalie too. The flat cap has really helped the Sens here they need to take advantage of it.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Friedman linked Debrincat to St.Louis

I think that makes a lot of sense as he can play with Thomas and Kyrou

they have two late firsts and NHL-ready guys like Schenn who can come in to replace a top 9 spot

Got to say I'm surprised by that.

Yeah they were sniffing around Meier at the deadline but that was before picking up Vrana, Kapanen and Blais, all of whom were excellent for the Blues down the stretch and filled out the remaining forward spots for next season.

Maybe they are willing to include one of them in the deal or Schenn/Saad are willing to waive their NTC to come to Ottawa.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Take a look at cap friendly and show me the teams with cap space that are more desirable than Ottawa that have a starters spot open. Carolina is about it. Boston has to dump a goalie too. The flat cap has really helped the Sens here they need to take advantage of it.

Seattle, Buffalo, Detroit, Montreal and Columbus are all teams I suspect want to add goaltending help.

Same goes for Anaheim if they trade Gibson, Winnipeg if they trade Hellebuyck and Philly after they trade Hart, although obviously trading them will scratch some names off the list of teams above.

There are rumours that Edmonton and Toronto are sniffing around Hart, but I doubt they make any changes to their goaltending duos.

As for your point about desirable destinations and open starter spots, it's obviously the case that Ottawa is not an ideal destination for most players and is on most player's NTCs. It's also debatable whether we have an open spot for a starter, as I'm sure any goalie we add will be splitting starts in a 1A/1B format with Forsberg.

 

[BondraTime]

St. Louis has a lot of realistic pieces the Sens should want in return for DBC.

25th, 29th, Bolduc, Dean. That's 4 1st round pieces. Getting two of them without an extension would be fine with me.

Schenn and his contract would need to be a part of it, unless they had another trade to move Parayko/Krug/Faulk out. Schenn + 25th/Dean, something like that

 

[BondraTime]

Friedman also mentioned that the Sens aren't looking into Hart, from what he's heard

 

[Daffy]

Incarcerated Bob says Sens interested in Hart.

He's actually right a fair amount, at least from what I've seen.