Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

[Ice-Tray]

If Arz can't keep Keller & Ottawa can't sign DBC they should look to make a deal. Both players are about the same age, about the same size, about the same pts & about the same amount of money. Given Keller is at around $7 mil makes him a little more attractive to Ottawa than paying $8 mil for DBC. And if Ottawa could expand that deal to include Crouse would be a home run.

To Arz: DBC LW/RW, Formenton LW, Joseph LW/RW, Brannstrom LD/RD, Thomson RD & Jarventie C/LW - approx. $11 mil out

To Ott: Keller LW/RW & Crouse LW - approx. $11 mil in

- Ottawa trades a guy they might have to pay more for, a guy who has media issues if he returns, a guy they paid too much, a guy they could lose to waivers & a guy they have trouble justifying in the Stone trade. PD could fix a few problems with one deal.

- Arz get a top six playmaker & goalscorer, a super fast 30 pt winger, another speedster, a decent defenceman who can play either side & two promising prospects.

Tkachuk - Stutzle - Giroux
Crouse - Norris - Keller
Greig - Pinto - Batherson
Ostapchuk - Kastelic - Sokolov/Gauthier

Except DBC isn’t going to sign there. If he was waiting to see what ownership does here, he sure as shit isn't going to be happy there.

I think nobody wants to play there if they want to win hockey games.

Arizona’s local revenues are almost non-existent. Keller will be paid 6M on a 7M cap hit, he’s not moving. Schmaltz is almost certainly gone as he is owed more than his cap hit. Arizona is not rebuilding this year, they are trying to spend the fewest dollars possible.

Lol been there done that…. Oof

 

[aragorn]

Except DBC isn’t going to sign there. If he was waiting to see what ownership does here, he sure as shit isn't going to be happy there.

I think nobody wants to play there if they want to win hockey games.


Lol been there done that…. Oof

$8 mil can be very convincing but it's not ideal today, I agree with you there. What if one of the losing bidders in Ottawa get a shot at the Arz team (Sparks) & could potentially build a new arena or move the team? Consolation prize.

 

[Ice-Tray]

$8 mil can be very convincing but it's not ideal today, I agree with you there. What if one of the losing bidders in Ottawa get a shot at the Arz team (Sparks) & could potentially build a new arena or move the team? Consolation prize.

It’s something I have considered as the side focus of their bid as well.

Maybe no chance of owning this team, but coming across as a serious ownership group for an expansion team that could be fit from all of the exposure that they were threatening here.

Seems like if they actually have the money that they would be much happier owning a team in Houston or somthing.

 

[aragorn]

It’s something I have considered as the side focus of their bid as well.

Maybe no chance of owning this team, but coming across as a serious ownership group for an expansion team that could be fit from all of the exposure that they were threatening here.

Seems like if they actually have the money that they would be much happier owning a team in Houston or somthing.

Agree there is always a possibility depending on how the NHL think of their bid & their ownership group. If there are two potentially good bids that the NHL & Board of Governors like & would agree to than it's always a possibility IMO. It would certainly help if they could find stable ownership to take Arz off their plate & Houston might be a good location for them in the West. Have a great evening.

 

[Qward]

Why would DeBrincat want to sign in Arizona?

Assen na yo!

He doesnt, he goes to Detroit and Yotes get more picks and prospects.

 

[Samsquanch]

Why would DeBrincat want to sign in Arizona?

Assen na yo!

They could retain 50% on him and get a fairly awesome return on him at next year's TDL. Someone like Edmonton or another hopeful contender would definitely be interested.

That plus the return from us would be at very least close to the value of Keller. Contracts aside, DeBrincat has been the better player of those two every season aside from last year.

 

[Sun God Nika]

I dont get why Dorion is so insistent to keep Hammy only for 1 year even if it means he walks away. Lock him up for two he is going to be 33 and 34 for those two years still not far from prime age especially as a dman.

Something like 2x1.875M
Y1 - 2.25M
Y2 - 1.5M

 

[Cosmix]

He doesnt, he goes to Detroit and Yotes get more picks and prospects.

Where is his wife from? That is most likely the place she wants to live.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I dont get why Dorion is so insistent to keep Hammy only for 1 year even if it means he walks away. Lock him up for two he is going to be 33 and 34 for those two years still not far from prime age especially as a dman.

Something like 2x1.875M
Y1 - 2.25M
Y2 - 1.5M

From what I remember it was Watson that was the potential one year deal but wanted term, Hammy he talked more about the deal needing to be less than his previous 3 mill.

Did he specify a one year deal for Hammy in his latest interview? Can’t remember.

 

[Daffy]

From what I remember it was Watson that was the potential one year deal but wanted term, Hammy he talked more about the deal needing to be less than his previous 3 mill.

Did he specify a one year deal for Hammy in his latest interview? Can’t remember.

I only remember Dorion saying Hamonic had to come in less than what he made this year, not that it had to be 1 year.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I only remember Dorion saying Hamonic had to come in less than what he made this year, not that it had to be 1 year.

That’s what I remember too

 

[Golden_Jet]

From what I remember it was Watson that was the potential one year deal but wanted term, Hammy he talked more about the deal needing to be less than his previous 3 mill.

Did he specify a one year deal for Hammy in his latest interview? Can’t remember.

Same as I remember

 

[GoSenatorsGo]

Trade idea:

I want to start off by saying I am a fan of Chabot and I believe having a more rounded defence now should lead to him bouncing back this year

That said my crazy idea is:

Chabot for Hellebuyck one for one

Re-sign Hellebuyck
Then sign if possible Severson

Back end looks like

Sanderson-Zub
Chychrun-Severson
Brannnstrom-Hamonic (he resigns)/JBD

Hellebuyck
Forsberg

 

[bicboi64]

If Gaudreau was willing to play for Columbus, I won't be shocked if Cat or any other star 'wants' to play for Arizona. If Arizona is willing to move Keller for Cat in any deal, I hope that deal is made asap.

 

[Golden_Jet]

If Gaudreau was willing to play for Columbus, I won't be shocked if Cat or any other star 'wants' to play for Arizona. If Arizona is willing to move Keller for Cat in any deal, I hope that deal is made asap.

Players complained about AZ, complained to the PA, players do want out.
I’d imagine AZ would want an commitment from DBC.

 

[Oscar The Grouch]

If Gaudreau was willing to play for Columbus, I won't be shocked if Cat or any other star 'wants' to play for Arizona. If Arizona is willing to move Keller for Cat in any deal, I hope that deal is made asap.

Colombus is hockey-mad city that sells out every night.

In Arizona you bring your hockey bag home and dry it out on your porch every night.

 

[GCK]

Stop with the Arizona talk. Coyotes ownership is looking to reduce actual dollars spent not increase payroll. I expect them to move for Carey Price.

 

[Micklebot]

Stop with the Arizona talk. Coyotes ownership is looking to reduce actual dollars spent not increase payroll. I expect them to move for Carey Price.

Bettman was saying they grossed more in mullet arena than they were in Glendale, I don't think they are adding big ticket items, but I do wonder if their desire to cut is being overstated

 

[GCK]

Bettman was saying they grossed more in mullet arena than they were in Glendale, I don't think they are adding big ticket items, but I do wonder if their desire to cut is being overstated

They took a lesser return on Chychrun so that they didn’t have to take back money.

 

[Micklebot]

They took a lesser return on Chychrun so that they didn’t have to take back money.

They were holding out for deals that didn't involve retaining or taking on salary dumps , then when other teams switched targets took the last offer still out there, that's different than being unwilling to pay good players for what they're worth, I suspect they'll be fine with hockey trades that are close to cash neutral, but not with adding salary for picks.

What I don't see is a fire sale where they dump good players just to get out of paying them, as Ruzkowsky said, they have to spend to the floor...

 

[GCK]

They were holding out for deals that didn't involve retaining or taking on salary dumps , then when other teams switched targets took the last offer still out there, that's different than being unwilling to pay good players for what they're worth, I suspect they'll be fine with hockey trades that are close to cash neutral, but not with adding salary for picks.

What I don't see is a fire sale where they dump good players just to get out of paying them, as Ruzkowsky said, they have to spend to the floor...

Agreed. Keller will likely stay but Schmaltz will be on the move. I can’t see them adding significant money as they are already close to the floor.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Then there is the apparent issue that players don’t want to play there And may be looking to get out.

Hard to fault guys when they play for a team that has no chance of trying to be competitive. We know how that feels not being a cap team, but at least we‘re now working through a rebuild with a goal to compete and will be a cap team.

They need a solution that has some competitive light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[Golden_Jet]

They were holding out for deals that didn't involve retaining or taking on salary dumps , then when other teams switched targets took the last offer still out there, that's different than being unwilling to pay good players for what they're worth, I suspect they'll be fine with hockey trades that are close to cash neutral, but not with adding salary for picks.

What I don't see is a fire sale where they dump good players just to get out of paying them, as Ruzkowsky said, they have to spend to the floor...

Ottawa was not the last choice of AZ GM lol. It was only about picks for that trade to happen, no players coming back is what they wanted. Other teams wanted to include players.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Ottawa was not the last choice of AZ GM lol. It was only about picks for that trade to happen, no players coming back is what they wanted. Other teams wanted to include players.

I bet their price came way down too. My guess is they were steadfast on Greig or Pinto being involved and Ottawa said no way. Fast forward months later and the trade off was no salary coming back and no Greig or Pinto - and it helped that the Coyotes looked at where Ottawa was at the deadline and thought it a pretty safe bet the pick would be good.

 

[Qward]

Where is his wife from? That is most likely the place she wants to live.

Both from Michigan