Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

[Nac Mac Feegle]

At this point, it might be easiest to kill two birds with one stone. Dangle Cat + the rights to Formenton and see who bites.

If Cat doesn't want to sign long term on a good deal (way, way less than $8 mil) and Formenton coming back will cause too much PR problems (and possibly issues in the room or with management), then might as well package them up. Get a better deal.

 

[JD1]

Its like no one actually watched the games. Or they don't want to remember what happened. My second favorite argument is saying he had bad linemates. (Which isn't true) But also want to give him 8 million a year when he can't drive a line at 5 on 5 and is probably a 2nd pp player when everyone is healthy. Then not adding all of this up to him really not being a great fit here with the teams roster construction. You need different types of players. Giroux, Batherson, Debrincat and to a lesser extent Pinto are very similar offensive players. All right handed, all have great shots and can score none have a terrific motor. None are capable of carrying a line and driving the play. The sens need to diversify the group. More, motor, more physicality.

The funny thing about DeBrincat is if you replay 22-23 in some kind of time warp, he might easily have 37 goals on the exact same shooting opportunities

We might have made the playoffs with the extra 10 goals and we'd all be sitting here saying he's a must sign.

I kind of disagree with you about line driving. I like Pinto, but with 20 NHL games under his belt he wasn't ready to be a 2C and C's drive lines moreso than wingers.

 

[PlayersLtd]

The funny thing about DeBrincat is if you replay 22-23 in some kind of time warp, he might easily have 37 goals on the exact same shooting opportunities

We might have made the playoffs with the extra 10 goals and we'd all be sitting here saying he's a must sign.

I kind of disagree with you about line driving. I like Pinto, but with 20 NHL games under his belt he wasn't ready to be a 2C and C's drive lines moreso than wingers.

His shooting percentage was worst early in the season which is also when we were losing everything by 1 goal so I think you're right.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

At this point, it might be easiest to kill two birds with one stone. Dangle Cat + the rights to Formenton and see who bites.

If Cat doesn't want to sign long term on a good deal (way, way less than $8 mil) and Formenton coming back will cause too much PR problems (and possibly issues in the room or with management), then might as well package them up. Get a better deal.

What value do the rights to Formenton even have? He's probably worth to us the same he's worth to any other team.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

What value do the rights to Formenton even have? He's probably worth to us the same he's worth to any other team.

I'm assuming the investigation will be concluded and/or dropped. If they haven't laid any charges by now, I don't see it happening.

If that's the case, there would be some interest around the league. Obviously not as much if the incident in question never happened, but I'd be willing to guess some teams would consider his inclusion in a trade to be a good sweetener.

 

[bert]

The funny thing about DeBrincat is if you replay 22-23 in some kind of time warp, he might easily have 37 goals on the exact same shooting opportunities

We might have made the playoffs with the extra 10 goals and we'd all be sitting here saying he's a must sign.

I kind of disagree with you about line driving. I like Pinto, but with 20 NHL games under his belt he wasn't ready to be a 2C and C's drive lines moreso than wingers.

Agreed that typically it is a center but wingers can drive lines. The ones that get paid 8 million in this league are capable of doing it. While Pinto wasnt an ideal #2 yet there are way worse ones out there. Chicago won a cup with Handzus/Bolland as a second line center. Because Kane could drive a line.

They've got about 4.5 M in bonus money from 22-23 against the 23-24 cap.

They've got about 6 M in space and need to sign about 8 players. Bergeron and Krecji aren't signed. Neither is Swayman.

They're in trouble.

Who has a bad contract on that team? They have to make some tough decisions but its not as bad as you make it out to be overall. They will still be a good team not as good as last year but they were going all in. When you have Taylor Hall on your third line that is not a normal situation.

 

[UglyPuckling]

I'd do it straight for Carlo. Boston has a ton of capspace. Could sign Cat. I'd toss in Lassi and a pick. I think we need a RD with Chabby who can clear the front of the net.


What about:

Paranko
Kyrou LOL no but someone good. Obv not gettin ghim

Cat
Lassi
24 1st

???

Boston has a challenging cap situation and very little cap space.

PROJECTED CAP SPACE

: $4,937,500​

ROSTER SIZE: 15/23

Bergeron, Bertuzzi, Orlov and Krejci are UFAs. Swayman is RFA.

Proposal: - Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

I understand wanting to keep Tkachuk-Stützle-Giroux together in Stützle first year as a full-time C, but I hope they're a lot more willing to experiment and balance things out next year. I'd love to see: Tkachuk - Stützle - Debrincat Yeah, Debrincat changes sides, but all 3 of those players...

forums.hfboards.com

 

[HSF]

rather overpay Cat by a mill than trade him for Brandon Carlo.

Our top 4 D is set we don't need to add there. If Cat is leaving we need to add another winger and/or goalie

 

[BUCKLE UP]

At this point, it might be easiest to kill two birds with one stone. Dangle Cat + the rights to Formenton and see who bites.

If Cat doesn't want to sign long term on a good deal (way, way less than $8 mil) and Formenton coming back will cause too much PR problems (and possibly issues in the room or with management), then might as well package them up. Get a better deal.

This screams the most Carolina deal of all time. They'll then proceed to win the cup lol

 

[Que]

This screams the most Carolina deal of all time. They'll then proceed to win the cup lol

I don’t think Cat will end up in Carolina, but he could. But speaking of lopsided trades that could spectacularly backfire… All speed and youth for size and ‘intangibles’

Mantha and Wilson for Debrincat, Formenton and Joseph?

I’d love Wilson to be fair, even gambling on that injured knee.

 

[Cosmix]

What value do the rights to Formenton even have? He's probably worth to us the same he's worth to any other team.

Why trade Formenton for a "bag of pucks"? Might as well keep him until this "situation" is sorted out. Besides, I don't trust the guy making the trades to get something of value for him. We don't need another Boedker.

 

[Cosmix]

I hope we can sign a big tough physical player for the 4th line.

Reaves and Lucic are UFAs and one would be a good addition next season to protect our younger players. Cost would be $1.75M or less AAV.

I would even play him on the 1st or 2nd line on occasion when needed to send a message to those who would target our skilled players.

Staged fights would not be part of the deal; the physicality would be focused during play.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Why trade Formenton for a "bag of pucks"? Might as well keep him until this "situation" is sorted out. Besides, I don't trust the guy making the trades to get something of value for him. We don't need another Boedker.

They have to be able to afford Gambrell

 

[Ouroboros]

What value do the rights to Formenton even have? He's probably worth to us the same he's worth to any other team.

No value at all. They were willing to dump him for a 2nd rounder prior to the December 1st RFA signing deadline, but nobody would give it to them.

 

[Cosmix]

They have to be able to afford Gambrell

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That's Dorion style thinkin'. I certainly hope not. I want "hard" players; not Dave Keon types.

No value at all. They were willing to dump him for a 2nd rounder prior to the December 1st RFA signing deadline, but nobody would give it to them.

Those other teams are certainly stupid! Forms could be a 2nd line winger with the right center or couplet.

 

[jhutter]

I hope we can sign a big tough physical player for the 4th line.

Reaves and Lucic are UFAs and one would be a good addition next season to protect our younger players. Cost would be $1.75M or less AAV.

I would even play him on the 1st or 2nd line on occasion when needed to send a message to those who would target our skilled players.

Staged fights would not be part of the deal; the physicality would be focused during play.

Milan Lucic is mightily washed, lol.

 

[Cosmix]

Milan Lucic is mightily washed, lol.

He is far from the player he used to be.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Lucic for under 1 mil could be good, but give me Perry for that role. I'm pretty sure he was interested in coming here a couple years back.

 

[Hale The Villain]

I don’t think Cat will end up in Carolina, but he could. But speaking of lopsided trades that could spectacularly backfire… All speed and youth for size and ‘intangibles’

Mantha and Wilson for Debrincat, Formenton and Joseph?

I’d love Wilson to be fair, even gambling on that injured knee.

The Caps GM said recently that they want Wilson to retire as a Capital, so unless extension negotiations go very poorly I don't think he'll be traded.

Definitely see them being very interested in DeBrincat, especially with Kane likely only being able to demand a cheap 1 year "show-me" deal due to his surgery putting him out for the next 4-6 months.

Could re-unite the ADB-Strome-Kane line in Washington if they trade for DeBrincat. They'd have the cap space to do it too if we take on Mantha.

 

[bicboi64]

Caps could definitely be a decent trade partner. No way they move their pick in this years draft but we might be able to get a top 10 protected 2024 draft pick from them for Cat. Something like Mantha, Milano and a 2024 1st. Would be open to having McMichael from them as well

 

[Hale The Villain]

Caps could definitely be a decent trade partner. No way they move their pick in this years draft but we might be able to get a top 10 protected 2024 draft pick from them for Cat. Something like Mantha, Milano and a 2024 1st. Would be open to having McMichael from them as well

Decent framework for a deal. Would definitely want their 2023 2nd added if we're taking on Mantha to facilitate a deal.

Only one year left on his deal but 5.7M is too much for a lazy one-dimensional scorer that has averaged only 0.5 PPG the last 3 years.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Caps could definitely be a decent trade partner. No way they move their pick in this years draft but we might be able to get a top 10 protected 2024 draft pick from them for Cat. Something like Mantha, Milano and a 2024 1st. Would be open to having McMichael from them as well

Gonna want more if taking Mantha as a dump.

 

[Crosside]

André Tourigny give a good interview yesterday. He said Lucic have be a big factor for the gold medal. A good leadership and want to play defense first. André said the philosophy was check for chance, and when other players don’t do that. Lucic watch the player eye to eye and scream check for chance. Would be funny that he do that to Brady and Bath

 

[Que]

André Tourigny give a good interview yesterday. He said Lucic have be a big factor for the gold medal. A good leadership and want to play defense first. André said the philosophy was check for chance, and when other players don’t do that. Lucic watch the player eye to eye and scream check for chance. Would be funny that he do that to Brady and Bath

I’d like Lucic as a 13/14 forward. I think he could play 30-50 games effectively next season. He’s a beat up old machine but he’s a gem.

More realistic than Perry imo, though I’d also take Perry.

The Caps GM said recently that they want Wilson to retire as a Capital, so unless extension negotiations go very poorly I don't think he'll be traded.

Definitely see them being very interested in DeBrincat, especially with Kane likely only being able to demand a cheap 1 year "show-me" deal due to his surgery putting him out for the next 4-6 months.

Could re-unite the ADB-Strome-Kane line in Washington if they trade for DeBrincat. They'd have the cap space to do it too if we take on Mantha.

Lame. Oh well.

I think they might look at Branny tbh. Their LD is weak.

 

[JD1]

Agreed that typically it is a center but wingers can drive lines. The ones that get paid 8 million in this league are capable of doing it. While Pinto wasnt an ideal #2 yet there are way worse ones out there. Chicago won a cup with Handzus/Bolland as a second line center. Because Kane could drive a line.


Who has a bad contract on that team? They have to make some tough decisions but its not as bad as you make it out to be overall. They will still be a good team not as good as last year but they were going all in. When you have Taylor Hall on your third line that is not a normal situation.

Probably the only bad deal is Mike Reilly. But with them it's not so much bad deals, it's they've got all this depth signed to decent deals. They've got 6 forward contracts at 4 or more and Pastrnak's big deal. But they don't have their 1C and 2C signed. And they've got 6 D at 3 or more with McAvoy at 9.5.

Last year for them was a total cap anomaly getting Bergeron and Krecji to play for peanuts with heavy bonus money. The bonus money is on next year's cap.

If you look at what they have signed and the bonus made from last season that counts against next season, they are in real trouble

Jacobs is the NHL's most influential owner and he's likely the driver of raising the cap which we're hearing about.