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Game 7 Meltdown said:
In Canada, the Crown can appeal an acquittal. Henry Morgentaler was acquitted at least three times, each acquittal followed by a Crown appeal.
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Yes that’s true, but an appeal is not another trial. Basically, an appeal is a legal argument before a higher court where the appellant believes that the trial Judge didn’t apply the law correctly during the original trial. For example evidence that was allowed or not allowed during the original trial which would have affected the outcome. An appeal can overturn a conviction or acquittal, change a sentence, or order a new trial.

Once a person was finally acquitted, or convicted of an offence he cannot be re-tried for the same offence.
 
Matthew was also looking to get PAID. I highly doubt he would have re-signed here unless we offered around league max which would have destroyed the chemistry.

Calgary looked like they made off like bandits but fast forward a year and it’s the inverse.
 
Ya MT was clearly angling to get to a place like Florida. Money and taxes is likely a big driver there as he appears very financially motivated first and foremost. I don't think there's any chance Ottawa could have locked him up.
 
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StrakaCorvoHoffman said:
Ya MT was clearly angling to get to a place like Florida. Money and taxes is likely a big driver there as he appears very financially motivated first and foremost. I don't think there's any chance Ottawa could have locked him up.
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Dallas, Vegas, Florida, Tampa and Nashville were the only teams in the running imo, because of State income taxes - or lack thereof.

On a barely related note, the list of goalies available this off-season is so thin. I hate the thought of losing DeBrincat but if we do, perhaps a goalie included in a trade wouldn’t be a bad thing.
 
Que said:
Dallas, Vegas, Florida, Tampa and Nashville were the only teams in the running imo, because of State income taxes - or lack thereof.

On a barely related note, the list of goalies available this off-season is so thin. I hate the thought of losing DeBrincat but if we do, perhaps a goalie included in a trade wouldn’t be a bad thing.
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Sure seemed that way. Certainly don't see any chance he would have been willing to go to Ottawa of all places.
 
ZubMeUp said:
I mean, he may have wanted to come play with Brady.
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I could certainly be wrong, but I didn't think that was likely.

He's talked a whole lot about Florida and how much he loves the hot weather. I think that, plus the tax benefit, plus still being on a good team, was more appealing.
 
StrakaCorvoHoffman said:
I could certainly be wrong, but I didn't think that was likely.

He's talked a whole lot about Florida and how much he loves the hot weather. I think that, plus the tax benefit, plus still being on a good team, was more appealing.
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Yeah I get that too. Was more responding to the "Ottawa of all places" part. Seems like with an up and coming team and Brady here we could have been on his short list.
 
Que said:
Matthew was also looking to get PAID. I highly doubt he would have re-signed here unless we offered around league max which would have destroyed the chemistry.

Calgary looked like they made off like bandits but fast forward a year and it’s the inverse.
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Calgary did well given the brutal situation they were in. Look what they got compared to what the sens got for Stone.

I'd like the team to target Barbashev in free agency. That's the type of player they need. Hard fast, heavy, physical, can score and play in the top 6.
 
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To me it looks like Calgary got two massive boat anchor contracts, with a third one close in tow, all while failing to even make the playoffs.

That‘s not exactly a return that make me jealous compared to what we got for Stone.

It will be interesting to see what Conroy does with this core.
 
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Calgary did well given the brutal situation they were in. Look what they got compared to what the sens got for Stone.

I'd like the team to target Barbashev in free agency. That's the type of player they need. Hard fast, heavy, physical, can score and play in the top 6.
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My bestie is a flames fan and at the time he was quite happy with the return. Weegar looked like a top pairing RD, Huberdeau was coming off a historic campaign and that 1st looked pretty volatile at the time.

He knew how valuable Chucky was and hated to see him go. Honestly blamed Sutter and the arena as two of the larger motivating factors for his departure.

It was as good as anyone could have done in the situation and it’s unfortunate Huby and to a lesser extent Weegar had such bad seasons but they should bounce back.

Huberdeau has to otherwise that will be the worst contract in the league for the next seven seasons.

Also, I think free agency depends entirely on DeBrincat and what he chooses to do.
 
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Ice-Tray said:
To me it looks like Calgary got two massive boat anchor contracts, with a third one close in tow, all while failing to even make the playoffs.

That‘s not exactly a return that make me jealous compared to what we got for Stone.

It will be interesting to see what Conroy does with this core.
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Theoretically you could have not signed Huberdeau and Weegar, flipped them separately, maybe at the deadline, and net more than Stone got. Plus the 1st the Flames got in the deal.
 
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Que said:
My bestie is a flames fan and at the time he was quite happy with the return. Weegar looked like a top pairing RD, Huberdeau was coming off a historic campaign and that 1st looked pretty volatile at the time.

He knew how valuable Chucky was and hated to see him go. Honestly blamed Sutter and the arena as two of the larger motivating factors for his departure.

It was as good as anyone could have done in the situation and it’s unfortunate Huby and to a lesser extent Weegar had such bad seasons but they should bounce back.

Huberdeau has to otherwise that will be the worst contract in the league for the next seven seasons.

Also, I think free agency depends entirely on DeBrincat and what he chooses to do.
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That was Huberdeau's worst season pretty much, and it came under his only season with Sutter. I'm optimistic he can bounce back and at least be worth the front half of the big deal. And Weegar settled in late I thought. A bit more production offensively and he should be fine.

Markstrom and Vladar were also unspectacular, with .892 and .895 save percentage's. Markstrom's dropped 30 points year to year.

If all those guys can bring more, they have the assets to do more of a re-tool than needing to tear it down imo.
 
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StrakaCorvoHoffman said:
That was Huberdeau's worst season pretty much, and it came under his only season with Sutter. I'm optimistic he can bounce back and at least be worth the front half of the big deal. And Weegar settled in late I thought. A bit more production offensively and he should be fine.

Markstrom and Vladar were also unspectacular, with .892 and .895 save percentage's. Markstrom's dropped 30 points year to year.

If all those guys can bring more, they have the assets to do more of a re-tool than needing to tear it down imo.
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That whole team hated Sutter. Kids these days… Huby will be fine, just needs a Sutter free environment haha. Weegs was solid all season but definitely came on late.

Vladar was pretty awesome despite the numbers and Markky had a kid half way though the year and once that little one popped out he was back in form.

They’ll be fine under Conroy/Nonis and hopefully Gallant. My buddy has been pining for Gallant for like three seasons as he believes he’s the guy to get it done in Calgary so we’ll see how it all goes.

I’m hoping for the best.
 
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Ari: Mathieu Jospeh
Ott: 6th round pick

Ottawa signs Connor Brown 2 x $3.5 milllion (injury so you get him cheap)
 
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StrakaCorvoHoffman said:
That was Huberdeau's worst season pretty much, and it came under his only season with Sutter. I'm optimistic he can bounce back and at least be worth the front half of the big deal. And Weegar settled in late I thought. A bit more production offensively and he should be fine.

Markstrom and Vladar were also unspectacular, with .892 and .895 save percentage's. Markstrom's dropped 30 points year to year.

If all those guys can bring more, they have the assets to do more of a re-tool than needing to tear it down imo.
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I think huberdeau has a huge bounceback season next year.
 
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If folks are willing to give DBC a pass for a down year after being traded to a new team I'm not sure how you don't do the same for Huberdeau.

Was one of the best players in the league last year.
 
Que said:
My bestie is a flames fan and at the time he was quite happy with the return. Weegar looked like a top pairing RD, Huberdeau was coming off a historic campaign and that 1st looked pretty volatile at the time.

He knew how valuable Chucky was and hated to see him go. Honestly blamed Sutter and the arena as two of the larger motivating factors for his departure.

It was as good as anyone could have done in the situation and it’s unfortunate Huby and to a lesser extent Weegar had such bad seasons but they should bounce back.

Huberdeau has to otherwise that will be the worst contract in the league for the next seven seasons.

Also, I think free agency depends entirely on DeBrincat and what he chooses to do.
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I'm surprised he didn't mention Gaudreau. Hard to lose a guy who had 115pts and not expect a pretty big drop and scoring and in the standings.
 
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