Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

[Sun God Nika]

 

[Hale The Villain]

I'm thinking they probably do something similar to last year and get Chicago (or a different rebuilding team) to take him his contract for something like a 2nd or another swap of the late 1st they own for one of Chicago's mid-late 2nds.

Chicago has over 40M in cap space opening up and there's very few quality UFAs this year. Hence why they agreed to take on Zaitsev's last year for a 2nd+4th.

 

[Sun God Nika]

I'm thinking they probably do something similar to last year and get Chicago (or a different rebuilding team) to take him his contract for something like a 2nd or another swap of the late 1st they own for one of Chicago's mid-late 2nds.

Chicago has over 40M in cap space opening up and there's very few quality UFAs this year. Hence why they agreed to take on Zaitsev's last year for a 2nd+4th.

I dont think Chicago is going to spend 6M to move up 15 spots in a draft. Toronto likely has to move a first. Chicago now having Zaitsev in the books will be less likely to take on Murray unless its a 1st coming back. Would Toronto give up a 1st to shed the contract completely? The alternative is buying him out and only having a 0.687M caphit next year.

 

[Hale The Villain]

I dont think Chicago is going to spend 6M to move up 15 spots in a draft. Toronto likely has to move a first. Chicago now having Zaitsev in the books will be less likely to take on Murray unless its a 1st coming back. Would Toronto give up a 1st to shed the contract completely? The alternative is buying him out and only having a 0.687M caphit next year.

Less than a year ago Chicago took on 2 years of Petr Mrazek @ 3.8M per in exchange for moving up 13 spots in the draft (from 38 to 25).

 

[benjiv1]

FWIW…

Team is prepared to hand over the “keys” as of July 1st.

Whomever is the successful bidder might have time to hire a GM or POHO before the draft/free Agency, but I doubt it.

Likely return with Dorion as GM and Smith as Coach on very short leashes next year.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Whomever is the successful bidder might have time to hire a GM or POHO before the draft/free Agency, but I doubt it.

Likely return with Dorion as GM and Smith as Coach on very short leashes next year.

Yep surmised the same , when heard May 15 bids would be due. Figured by time approval goes through, it’s going to be too late.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

FWIW…

Team is prepared to hand over the “keys” as of July 1st.

Whomever is the successful bidder might have time to hire a GM or POHO before the draft/free Agency, but I doubt it.

Likely return with Dorion as GM and Smith as Coach on very short leashes next year.

Lmao what a f***ing joke if true.

Boston and NYR fired coaches just for losing in round 1, Sens stick with DJ despite repeated failures.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Can someone clarify this for me?
I was just told that if we qualify ADB then we cannot trade him this year, and he walks to UFA.

That can’t possibly be true can it?

 

[Ouroboros]

Can someone clarify this for me?
I was just told that if we qualify ADB then we cannot trade him this year, and he walks to UFA.

That can’t possibly be true can it?

It's not true.

 

[Hale The Villain]

FWIW…

Team is prepared to hand over the “keys” as of July 1st.

Whomever is the successful bidder might have time to hire a GM or POHO before the draft/free Agency, but I doubt it.

Likely return with Dorion as GM and Smith as Coach on very short leashes next year.

I don't know about that.

We'll know who the owner is well before July 1st, and even if it takes awhile to officially transfer ownership I seriously doubt if the new owners want a change in GM/coach that it would have to wait until then.

 

[JD1]

Lmao what a f***ing joke if true.

Boston and NYR fired coaches just for losing in round 1, Sens stick with DJ despite repeated failures.

How is it he's repeatedly failed? By not making the playoffs? That really hasn't been an objective and prior to this past season he hasn't had anywhere close to the roster to make it.

Having a team built for the playoffs and being unsuccessful is failure.

I don't think what DJ's done the past few years qualifies as failure.

And I think you know the difference

 

[GCK]

I figure Keefe gets canned because his core 4 is all flash and zero heart. He’s a good coach, I’ll take him with Brady, Stu and Giroux being competitive as hell it would be a nice fit. I like DJ but if we can upgrade we should.

 

[GCK]

I’d be interested in a couple leaf UFAs.

Accosting and Kampf.

Bottom 6

Formenton Pinto Joseph
Kastelic Kampf Acciari

That’s a bottom 6 that has a ton of grit, speed and face off skill.

 

[Wondercarrot]

How is it he's repeatedly failed? By not making the playoffs? That really hasn't been an objective and prior to this past season he hasn't had anywhere close to the roster to make it.

Having a team built for the playoffs and being unsuccessful is failure.

I don't think what DJ's done the past few years qualifies as failure.

And I think you know the difference

Personally from what I glean of our system I’m not especially a fan.
Our system needs to account for highly competent D who can lead the rush, jump in the rush, pinch hard down the board as a matter of routine in the Ozone, cycle through down low with the forwards.
More like Carolina and a 5 man unit rather than two separate groups which is the way we seem to play.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

How is it he's repeatedly failed? By not making the playoffs? That really hasn't been an objective and prior to this past season he hasn't had anywhere close to the roster to make it.

Having a team built for the playoffs and being unsuccessful is failure.

I don't think what DJ's done the past few years qualifies as failure.

And I think you know the difference

We easily had a playoff roster this season and we were the worst team in the league at the end of November.

 

[Golden_Jet]

We easily had a playoff roster this season and we were the worst team in the league at the end of November.

Close, 28th
I thought they’d come up just short, and they did
did you think they make the playoffs, even after Norris went down.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDoo]

Close, 28th
I thought they’d come up just short, and they did
did you think they make the playoffs, even after Norris went down.

Any discussion of how well you or I or anyone expected the Sens to do this year has to start with how good you thought Jake Sanderson would be.

IE, if someone had told me in September he’d be an absolute stud, best player on the ice most of the time, I’d have said the Sens should make the playoffs.

 

[Micklebot]

We easily had a playoff roster this season and we were the worst team in the league at the end of November.

We were missing Norris and Zub for most of that period, Sanderson was playing his first ~20 pro games, and we hadn't yet traded for Chychrun. I don't think anybody thought we easily had a playoff roster at that point even before the injuries, to say we did with the benefit of hindsight is quite the feat.

 

[Micklebot]

Any discussion of how well you or I or anyone expected the Sens to do this year has to start with how good you thought Jake Sanderson would be.

IE, if someone had told me in September he’d be an absolute stud, best player on the ice most of the time, I’d have said the Sens should make the playoffs.

I was really high on Sanderson, his season did not shock me at all, but I didn't think we were making the playoffs going into the year (I had us pegged as a long shot, but it was possible). I also had Pens and Washington as close to locks to make the playoffs.

 

[saskriders]

We were missing Norris and Zub for most of that period, Sanderson was playing his first ~20 pro games, and we hadn't yet traded for Chychrun. I don't think anybody thought we easily had a playoff roster at that point even before the injuries, to say we did with the benefit of hindsight is quite the feat.

Injuries happen every year. Teams like Vegas and Colorado had tonnes of injuries and still made the playoffs.

My biggest concern though is we always come out of the gate so poorly. It is like the team can only win when the games don't matter.

 

[Micklebot]

Injuries happen every year. Teams like Vegas and Colorado had tonnes of injuries and still made the playoffs.

My biggest concern though is we always come out of the gate so poorly. It is like the team can only win when the games don't matter.

Yes, injuries happen every year, and they derail teams every year. Teams like Colorado (current SC champs) and Vegas (perennial contender for the SC and going to the WCF) have the margin to overcome injuries. Other teams like Washington weren't able to overcome their injuries despite both being generally considered playoff caliber.

The idea that because last years freaking SC champs overcame injuries we should be able to is just nonsensical, we aren't at that stage of development yet. when we're perennial contenders for the cup, you can say we should be able to overcome critical injuries and still make the playoffs, but when we are a developing roster slated to challenge for a wild card, not so much.

 

[DueDiligence]

Lmao what a f***ing joke if true.

Boston and NYR fired coaches just for losing in round 1, Sens stick with DJ despite repeated failures.

Not a joke. With the sale imminent, no management/coaching changes will be made.

 

[DueDiligence]

Injuries happen every year. Teams like Vegas and Colorado had tonnes of injuries and still made the playoffs.

My biggest concern though is we always come out of the gate so poorly. It is like the team can only win when the games don't matter.

Well if Vegas didn't have injuries and were unable to put guys on LTIR , they would need to lose $15 million of salary. In the playoffs their total salary is over $97 million for the guys they are playing.

 

[Masked]

Yes, injuries happen every year, and they derail teams every year. Teams like Colorado (current SC champs) and Vegas (perennial contender for the SC and going to the WCF) have the margin to overcome injuries. Other teams like Washington weren't able to overcome their injuries despite both being generally considered playoff caliber.

That's because those teams are in the West, which these days is weaker than watered down Bud Light. The two best teams in the West, if healthy, were clearly Colorado and Vegas.

Assen na yo!

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Not a joke. With the sale imminent, no management/coaching changes will be made.

They’d still have all summer to make a coaching change if they’re supposedly handing over the keys on July 1st. I get the GM staying since there are a lot more moving parts there.